German navy

@krieghund

Thank you so much!

I have never seen the Central powers take Paris. Usually they go east as Russia is isolated.
However, France if given time to build up, will become a monster with a lot of US and possible british support.
I have playes several games where Russia falls and the Central powers just give up anyway.

It is very tough for the Central powers. If you have new players and experienced ones do let the veterans play CP.

From a simple math min/max perspective which some are intersested in, a naval strat is extremly unwise. Simple plus/minus math will tell you you need to add appr. 81 IPC worth of naval as CP in total accross the board (using the starting naval as ref) to even break even which means if you wanna “controll” something you will need to add more than the competition.
As CP you cant ever get into a building race with the allies as your starting income is so much less, but rather you need to as fast as possible close the incomecap.

Consider sz17. (I will assume the ottoman and russian navy cancel each out). Allies can after turn1 have 2 BS (France+Italy)+3Cruisers(UK+Italy+France which means AH wont be able to break even, even if the go all out navy. After turn2 the allies will have additional 1BS+Crusie (UK) in the zone and again AH wont be able to break even, even if they spent all during 2 turns. After this france plus Italy can with great ease together spend equal to AH for each turn.
So I have to ask how in hell are AH suppose to get controll over sz17?=)

I suppose you can counter and say “the allies dont counter my moves in my games” but then what is the point of argue the value of strats. I can  ask what do you think about my “attack-AH-first-as-Italy strat”, assuming AH dont defend their borders?=)

Yay!  Played a real live 1914 game. Four players total, read the work in progress write up here:

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=37252.0

Yeah, like I said, it was an unusual move and Italy didn’t get the help from the Allies that it should have.

As for moving your units to and from contested territories, I believe you can move them by transport as well. It doesn’t specifically state in the rule book, but it does say that you can move your troops from one contested territory to another contested territory IF you already have troops in the 2nd contested territory via land.
It also says you can move troops from a contested territory onto one of your transports.
So, you would basically just be putting those two statements together.

Welcome, blindingblizzard!

@blindingblizzard:

The rules state that U.S. ships cannot move into contested sea zones.Â

There is no such thing as a contested sea zone.  The rule states that the US may not move units into a contested territory.  (For clarifications on this, see the FAQ thread.)

In your example, Germany may choose to either include the US ships in its attack, bringing the US into the war, or ignore them.

Gargantua wrote:

“If Germany invades Switzerland, bring USA 1 turn closer to D.O.W.”

I think I like that.  It’s simple, and it doesn’t involve a special rule to give Switzerland a bigger army than its IPC value would indicate.  But it might have to be two turns, or maybe instantaneous, to be a real deterrent.  I guess that would have to be tested.

@oztea:

I think its more important to kill the UK home fleet.

What, I didn’t make it clear enough how much it needed to be destroyed?

@Frontovik:

that are tactics…
where is your main focus: russia or france?
combining france with italy conquest might be good idea (so combined with austria)

France, as I rather screamed. You must- I cannot emphasize this enough- MUST destroy France quickly. The Pincer, and Germany as a whole, is built for speed. Allow the Allies to seize the initiative, and you may as well surrender already.

@Cyprian:

Why send any troops to Prussia?

And what about sending 2 subs to seazone 2?

I suppose you could send all troops to Silesia if you wanted, but remember that Poland must be secured to be able to place all focus on the Western Front. It doesn’t particularly matter where the troops go, just so long as the Russian can’t break through.
And I am not willing to sacrifice any naval power from the grand assault on the Royal Navy. They must be wiped out and fast to keep reinforcements from reaching France. Germany cannot outproduce both Britain and France.