Fighters landing on foreign carriers

@Cow:

sent lone fighter to battle it lived… do i have to land it or can i crash it?

I assume you’re asking because you committed a carrier to pick it up.  If the carrier can still make it there, you must move it to get the fighter.

Welcome, MidSpeck!

@MidSpeck:

Since I resolved Sea Battle A first, and already declared my intention to move my third carrier there, does that mean I cannot change my mind and move it to the Sea Battle B zone?  Because I’d much rather catch 2 of my fighters than 1 of them.  Or am I committed because of the order in which I chose to resolve the battles?

You are committed because of the order in which you chose to resolve the battles.

@MidSpeck:

So the question here is, must I try and catch the MOST planes, or move carriers to at least catch 1 plane each?

The carrier must move to allow some fighters to land, but it’s your choice as to which one(s).

It doesn’t matter if the land unit survives to retreat or not.  Just its having moved into the territory establishes the retreat path.

Hi Prey. All Air units land in non combat and they have the balance of their  unused movement: a Fighter has 4, so if they moved 3 in Combat, then they only have 1 left. Air units cannot land in a territory that has just been captured. They could land on an empty Carrier.

Ah right of course, I really should not post so close to waking up!  So it was as I suspected, a defending plane may use a SINGLE movement to find a place to land, so no land in an adjcent SZ would be legal.  Thanks.

If the FIG is killed, the AC does NOT have to move; and can in fact make any other NCM it wishes.

If the FIG lives, the AC MUST go to the designated SZ to recover the FIG.

@rjclayton:

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Which is better?  Which is more fair?  I suppose it depends on your perspective.  For me, I think of the 4 movement for fighters as being the hard and fast rule unless long range aircraft, then it’s 6 movement (I played classic for many years).  In OOB Revised, this quirky new rule bent the old rules that I had become accustomed to, so definitely seemed odd.  The LHTR Revised ruleset seems to intuitively make more sense to me, and doesn’t bend that rule.  So for me I like this rule change made in LHTR.

I think about it like this: If I wanted to send my fighter to combat, with the intention of landing it on a carrier that was not yet fully launched, when it returned from it’s mission would it return to the shipyard, or would it land on the carrier once it was launched?  I think the answer would be to the carrier once it was launched.  And that’s how I justify this rule change.

Rob

Personally, having seen the pain of trying to get a bunch of fly boys onto a real live ship, I prefer the requirement that the planes land at the airbase closest to the shipyard(IC) and embark on the carrier when it launches (is built).  I find it ridiculously unrealistic to have those planes “meet” and land on a CV that is still trying to figure out if all the bilge level alarms work and why they get seawater out of number 3 A/C refueling station instead of JP5.

Heck, if I really wanted to argue this I would say that CVs can only embark new aircraft if the aircraft are built on a CV.  No carrier next to the IC?  No new naval avaiation units.  Your naval aviators get waxed far from home?  Don’t go expecting those Army Air guys to figure out how to land on a bouncing postage stamp after they have gotten so used to 1500’ long runways that don’t move and are wider than a carrier is long.  I might be convinced that land based air can convert to sea based air in a Non Combat Move but during Combat???  I can see it now, the FTR pulls up next to the refueling plane, fills up his tanks after combat and orders a side of tailhooks.  Of course, all of this is trading playability for complexity.  If I really wanted to do that, I would would not be playing A&A.

Give me OOB rules of FTR at the IC can move to the fresh built CV and stop giving the FTR an extra range of space during the combat move if they happen to grow tailhooks and figure out how to land on new carriers on their way back from the fight.

Because in WWII when bombers attack, the fighters deffending the territories and industrial complex……

So I think when the Attacker use Bomber Raid sent Bombers and Fighters, and defender could be use the defender fighters before the dice roller to the Industrial Complex