M7574 & EM (axis) vs Anchovy & moulinex (allies) G40 alpha +2

@VictoryFirst

It seems the Allies are skilled Sub hunters so far. At least that helps to even out the Sea Power disparity in the Atlantic.

I can understand the Allies are not having a fun time this game. The Germans are now walking over a red carpet to Moscow lol. Thats why I suggest for the next game we start from this save file.

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As the name suggests, it’s basically a G1 that has a more or less average EF, but a terrible Atlantic. This happened in my sixth game against TGC. Playing as the Allies, I was able to bring the Moscow odds to something around 65% I believe. Then we switched sides starting from the same save file and he also brought the Moscow odds to something like that.

So now I am curious if you can bring the Moscow odds lower than us with your fighter shuck strategy.

@AndrewAAGamer

I can follow and agree with your reasoning everywhere, except here.

@AndrewAAGamer said in AndrewAAgamer (Allies) vs. Germany (Ragnell804):

Thus, without those 6 extra units there would be only 7 German units on the board which means the Allies would have won.

That’s a massive assumption. Why so certain of this? Ragnell pointed out he adapted his German strategy to this game, knowing the Allies had an “outlier” on Omaha Beach. Therefore because of his experience, he knew the Germans could afford to be more aggressive than usual and still prevent the Allied win, resulting in the low Axis piece count in the end.

If this outlier didn’t happen, the Axis would have played more defensively, trading space for time and keeping the option open of making an attack on one of the victory cities with the goal of contesting it on the very last turn with decent chances, which is part of the reason why I think this game is imbalanced in favor of the Axis.

So therefore I think it’s wrong to say D-Day is balanced after just one game. I’ll believe you once you’ve played at least 10 games and managed to win 3 or more as the Allies. I am happy to present myself as an opponent.

TripleA Turn Summary: Chinese round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: The Rising Sun

Game History

Round: 3 Combat Move - Chinese 2 Mech.Infs moved from Xining to N.Shangsi 2 Artillerys, 6 Infantrys and 1 Tank moved from Gansu to N.Shangsi 1 EarlyFighter moved from Szechwan to N.Shangsi 1 EarlyFighter moved from W.Sian to N.Shangsi Purchase Units - Chinese Chinese buy 1 Elite, 5 Infantrys and 4 Tanks; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat - Chinese Battle in N.Shangsi Chinese attack with 2 Artillerys, 2 EarlyFighters, 6 Infantrys, 2 Mech.Infs and 1 Tank Hisaichi defend with 1 Artillery, 7 Infantrys and 2 Tanks Chinese roll dice for 2 Artillerys, 2 EarlyFighters, 6 Infantrys, 2 Mech.Infs and 1 Tank in N.Shangsi, round 2 : 4/13 hits, 4.17 expected hits Hisaichi roll dice for 1 Artillery, 7 Infantrys and 2 Tanks in N.Shangsi, round 2 : 1/10 hits, 3.67 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Chinese lost in N.Shangsi 4 Infantrys owned by the Hisaichi lost in N.Shangsi Chinese roll dice for 2 Artillerys, 2 EarlyFighters, 5 Infantrys, 2 Mech.Infs and 1 Tank in N.Shangsi, round 3 : 3/12 hits, 4.00 expected hits Hisaichi roll dice for 1 Artillery, 3 Infantrys and 2 Tanks in N.Shangsi, round 3 : 1/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Chinese lost in N.Shangsi 3 Infantrys owned by the Hisaichi lost in N.Shangsi Chinese roll dice for 2 Artillerys, 2 EarlyFighters, 4 Infantrys, 2 Mech.Infs and 1 Tank in N.Shangsi, round 4 : 3/11 hits, 3.83 expected hits Hisaichi roll dice for 1 Artillery and 2 Tanks in N.Shangsi, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Chinese lost in N.Shangsi 2 Tanks owned by the Hisaichi and 1 Artillery owned by the Hisaichi lost in N.Shangsi Chinese win, taking N.Shangsi from Hisaichi with 2 Artillerys, 2 EarlyFighters, 3 Infantrys, 2 Mech.Infs and 1 Tank remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22 Casualties for Chinese: 3 Infantrys Casualties for Hisaichi: 1 Artillery, 7 Infantrys and 2 Tanks Non Combat Move - Chinese 2 EarlyFighters moved from N.Shangsi to Gansu 1 Tank moved from Tsingnan to Gansu 1 Artillery moved from Tsingnan to Gansu 4 Infantrys moved from Tsingnan to Gansu 2 Infantrys moved from Gobi to Tsingnan 1 Artillery moved from Gobi to Tsingnan 1 Elite moved from Xining to Tsingnan 3 Infantrys moved from Xining to Tsingnan 1 AAGun moved from Ming Jong to Xining 4 Mech.Infs moved from Urumal to Tsingnan 2 Tanks moved from Szechwan to Gansu 1 Infantry moved from N.Chunking to W.Sian Place Units - Chinese 1 Elite and 5 Infantrys placed in Xining 4 Tanks placed in Urumal Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 29 PUs; end with 29 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -2.00 Hisaichi regular : -4.33

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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 8 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans repair damage of 1x factory_major; Remaining resources: 73 PUs; Germans buy 5 artilleries, 1 fighter, 9 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 3 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda 1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus 1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Northern Belarus 2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Southern Belarus 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Leningrad to Vologda 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Leningrad to Vologda 1 armour, 6 artilleries, 14 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Leningrad to Novgorod 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 3 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 115 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Gibraltar to Southern Italy 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from France to Leningrad 1 destroyer moved from 128 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 118 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone 4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 115 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 4 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland Combat - Germans Battle in Vologda Germans attack with 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 13 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 13 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 4/20 hits, 5.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vologda Germans win, taking Vologda from Russians with 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 13 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Southern Belarus Germans attack with 2 bombers and 1 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 infantry in Southern Belarus, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Belarus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Southern Belarus 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Southern Belarus Germans win with 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Northern Belarus Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Northern Belarus, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Belarus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Northern Belarus Germans win, taking Northern Belarus from Russians with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Novgorod Germans attack with 1 armour, 6 artilleries, 14 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 6 artilleries, 14 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 8/22 hits, 6.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod Germans win, taking Novgorod from Russians with 1 armour, 6 artilleries, 14 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 2 bombers moved from Southern Belarus to Northern Belarus 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Belarus to Leningrad 1 aaGun moved from Leningrad to Novgorod 1 aaGun moved from Leningrad to Vologda 4 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Leningrad Place Units - Germans 1 transport placed in 115 Sea Zone 3 artilleries placed in Leningrad 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany 2 artilleries and 7 infantry placed in Germany Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Germany: 1 artillery EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Germany: 1 infantry EDIT: Changing unit bombing damage for these Germans owned units to: airfield = 2 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 55 PUs Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -0.33 Germans regular : 0.83

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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 11

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World At War

Game History

Round: 11 Combat Move - Germans 1 unit repaired. 1 Infantry moved from Aquitaine to Navarre Germans take Navarre from British 1 Artillery and 2 Infantrys moved from Aquitaine to Aragon 1 Artillery and 3 Infantrys moved from Stalingrad to Saratov 1 Tank moved from Stalingrad to Saratov 1 Fighter moved from Georgia to Saratov 5 Mech.Infs and 23 Tanks moved from Kursk to Moscow 6 Tanks moved from S.Karelia to Moscow 1 Stuka moved from Kiev to Penza 2 Infantrys moved from Rostov to Penza 1 Infantry moved from Rostov to Penza 1 Artillery moved from S.Algeria to N.Algeria Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 Adv.Fighter, 2 Artillerys, 2 HeavyTanks, 16 Infantrys, 1 JetFighter, 4 Submarines and 6 Tanks; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat - Germans Battle in N.Algeria Germans attack with 1 Artillery Dutch defend with 1 Elite Germans roll dice for 1 Artillery in N.Algeria, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits French roll dice for 1 Elite in N.Algeria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Elite owned by the Dutch lost in N.Algeria Germans win, taking N.Algeria from French with 1 Artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Dutch: 1 Elite Battle in Aragon Germans attack with 1 Artillery and 2 Infantrys British defend with 1 Infantry Germans roll dice for 1 Artillery and 2 Infantrys in Aragon, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits British roll dice for 1 Infantry in Aragon, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the British lost in Aragon Germans win, taking Aragon from British with 1 Artillery and 2 Infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for British: 1 Infantry Battle in Saratov Germans attack with 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, 3 Infantrys and 1 Tank Russians defend with 1 Infantry and 1 Tank Germans roll dice for 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, 3 Infantrys and 1 Tank in Saratov, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 1.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 Infantry and 1 Tank in Saratov, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Germans lost in Saratov 1 Infantry owned by the Russians and 1 Tank owned by the Russians lost in Saratov Germans win, taking Saratov from Russians with 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, 2 Infantrys and 1 Tank remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for Germans: 1 Infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 Infantry and 1 Tank Battle in Penza Germans attack with 3 Infantrys and 1 Stuka Russians defend with 1 Infantry Germans roll dice for 3 Infantrys and 1 Stuka in Penza, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 Infantry in Penza, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Germans lost in Penza 1 Infantry owned by the Russians lost in Penza Germans win, taking Penza from Russians with 2 Infantrys and 1 Stuka remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 Infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 Infantry Battle in Moscow Germans attack with 5 Mech.Infs and 29 Tanks Russians defend with 1 AAGun, 2 Artillerys, 1 Bunker, 2 Elites, 1 Factory, 9 HeavyTanks, 6 Infantrys and 2 Tanks Germans roll dice for 5 Mech.Infs and 29 Tanks in Moscow, round 2 : 14/34 hits, 16.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 Artillerys, 1 Bunker, 2 Elites, 9 HeavyTanks, 6 Infantrys and 2 Tanks in Moscow, round 2 : 10/22 hits, 10.83 expected hits 5 Mech.Infs owned by the Germans and 5 Tanks owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 2 Elites owned by the Russians, 6 Infantrys owned by the Russians, 2 Artillerys owned by the Russians, 1 Bunker owned by the Russians and 2 Tanks owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Germans roll dice for 24 Tanks in Moscow, round 3 : 8/24 hits, 12.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 9 HeavyTanks in Moscow, round 3 : 5/9 hits, 6.00 expected hits 5 Tanks owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 8 HeavyTanks owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Germans roll dice for 19 Tanks in Moscow, round 4 : 11/19 hits, 9.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 HeavyTank in Moscow, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 Tank owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 1 HeavyTank owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Germans captures 65PUs while taking Russians capital Germans win, taking Moscow from Russians with 18 Tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20 Casualties for Germans: 5 Mech.Infs and 11 Tanks Casualties for Russians: 2 Artillerys, 1 Bunker, 2 Elites, 9 HeavyTanks, 6 Infantrys and 2 Tanks Non Combat Move - Germans 1 Fighter moved from Saratov to Georgia 1 Stuka moved from Penza to Rostov 2 Infantrys moved from Rostov to Georgia 5 Artillerys moved from Kursk to Rostov 1 Tank moved from Kiev to Rostov 4 ArmoredCars and 5 Tanks moved from Vinnytsia to Rostov 1 AAGun and 8 Infantrys moved from Kiev to Donetsk 5 Infantrys moved from Brest to Kiev 2 ArmoredCars and 2 Tanks moved from Warsaw to Kiev 1 Elite and 1 Infantry moved from Novgorod to S.Karelia 1 Artillery and 9 Infantrys moved from Leningrad to S.Karelia 1 Infantry moved from Danzig to 24 Sea Zone 1 Infantry and 1 T.Boat moved from 24 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone 1 Infantry moved from 23 Sea Zone to Hamburg 2 Infantrys moved from Danzig to 24 Sea Zone 2 Infantrys and 3 Transports moved from 24 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 2 Infantrys moved from 22 Sea Zone to Netherlands 3 Adv.Fighters, 1 Battleship, 2 Carriers, 2 Cruisers and 1 Destroyer moved from 21 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 1 Artillery and 5 Infantrys moved from Orleanais to Languedoc 1 Artillery moved from Aquitaine to Languedoc 1 HeavyTank moved from Paris to Languedoc 2 Tanks moved from Paris to Languedoc 1 Elite moved from Paris to Orleanais 1 Artillery moved from Paris to Orleanais 3 Infantrys moved from Paris to Orleanais 2 Infantrys moved from Normandy to Orleanais Place Units - Germans 1 Adv.Fighter and 4 Submarines placed in 22 Sea Zone 2 Infantrys and 1 JetFighter placed in Normandy 3 Infantrys and 2 Tanks placed in Stalingrad 1 HeavyTank and 2 Infantrys placed in Georgia 1 Artillery and 3 Infantrys placed in Rhine 1 Tank placed in Hamburg 1 Artillery, 1 HeavyTank and 6 Infantrys placed in Paris 3 Tanks placed in Bavaria Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 146 PUs; end with 211 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : -0.33 Russians regular : -0.67 Germans regular : -3.83 British regular : -0.33

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@The_Good_Captain

Game History

Round: 8 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Germany to East Europe Germans take East Europe from Russians 2 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Caucasus 1 armour and 6 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Caucasus 7 armour moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Caucasus Combat - Germans Battle in Caucasus Germans attack with 8 armour and 8 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Germans win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 8 armour and 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 aaGun and 29 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Caucasus 9 infantry moved from Germany to East Europe 2 infantry moved from Germany to East Europe 1 infantry moved from Germany to East Europe Place Units - Germans 9 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 31 PUs; end with 32 PUs

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TripleA Turn Summary: Thai round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World At War

Game History

Round: 8 Combat Move - Thai 2 Tanks moved from Bangkok to S.Thailand 2 Transports moved from 67 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone 2 Artillerys and 2 Infantrys moved from Bangkok to 105 Sea Zone 2 Artillerys and 2 Infantrys moved from 105 Sea Zone to S.French Indochina 1 Infantry moved from Bangkok to S.Thailand 1 Artillery moved from Bangkok to S.Thailand 2 Infantrys moved from Bangkok to S.Thailand Purchase Units - Thai Thai buy 1 Elite, 1 Fighter and 3 Infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat - Thai Battle in S.French Indochina Thai attack with 2 Artillerys and 2 Infantrys British defend with 1 Infantry Thai roll dice for 2 Artillerys and 2 Infantrys in S.French Indochina, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits French roll dice for 1 Infantry in S.French Indochina, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the British lost in S.French Indochina Thai win, taking S.French Indochina from French with 2 Artillerys and 2 Infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for British: 1 Infantry Non Combat Move - Thai Place Units - Thai 1 Elite, 1 Fighter and 3 Infantrys placed in Bangkok Turn Complete - Thai Thai collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : -0.33 Thai regular : -0.33

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