M7574 & EM (axis) vs Anchovy & moulinex (allies) G40 alpha +2

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: AlliedFighters round 9

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: D-Day 2 fix

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Round: 9 Movement Reset - AlliedFighters AlliedFighters collect 0 PUs; end with 0 PUs

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Just wondering, where is the return fire of the German submarines in both naval battles?

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: French round 1

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 1 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 64 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 64 Sea Zone to 59 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 59 Sea Zone to Java ANZAC take Java from Dutch 1 fighter moved from Queensland to Java 2 fighters moved from New Zealand to Java 1 destroyer moved from 64 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales 1 cruiser moved from 65 Sea Zone to 58 Sea Zone Place Units - ANZAC 3 infantry placed in New South Wales Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 13 PUs; end with 14 PUs Politics - French Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Algeria Trigger Axis Conquer All France Cruiser Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 cruiser placed in 95 Sea Zone Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Tunisia Trigger Axis Conquer All France Destroyer Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 destroyer placed in 95 Sea Zone Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Southern France Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Artillery Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 artillery placed in Southern France Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Morocco Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Syria Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in French West Africa Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Tunisia Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French West Africa Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Central Africa 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Central Africa 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Central Africa 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French Central Africa Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Algeria Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Syria Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Morocco Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Infantry Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Algeria Trigger Axis Conquer All France Cruiser Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Cruiser Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Cruiser Remove: has removed 1 cruiser owned by French in 95 Sea Zone Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Infantry Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Tunisia Trigger Axis Conquer All France Destroyer Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Destroyer Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Destroyer Remove: has removed 1 destroyer owned by French in 95 Sea Zone Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Infantry Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Southern France Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Artillery Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Artillery Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Artillery Remove: has removed 1 artillery owned by French in Southern France Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Infantry Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Morocco Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Madagascar 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Madagascar 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Madagascar 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French Madagascar Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3 Infantry Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Syria Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Southern France Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Indo China 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Indo China 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Indo China 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French Indo China Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Guiana 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Guiana 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Guiana 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French Guiana Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Infantry Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in French West Africa Combat Move - French Non Combat Move - French 1 destroyer moved from 74 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone Turn Complete - French

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@VictoryFirst said in AndrewAAgamer (Allies) vs. Germany (Ragnell804):

@AndrewAAGamer said in AndrewAAgamer (Allies) vs. Germany (Ragnell804):

Would you be able to calculate when we get Bad dice or Very Bad dice in two or more areas? That should be important too.

I think what will be difficult here is defining what territories belong which areas. For example a battle in G28, should you include it under Caen or St. Lo? Units there can go either way. An approach like this is almost impossible.

I guess I wasn’t clear. I am not looking for you to peruse the game I just had and figure out what the dice variable was. I was hoping, if possible, due to your math skills, if sometime in the near future you would be able to tell me certain odds like you just did. For example:

Odds of at least 1 area area with Bad dice Odds of at least 2 areas with Bad dice Odds of at least 1 area with Very Bad dice Odds of at least 2 areas of Very Bad dice

That way, once, and if, we can confirm the Allies win 100% of the time with even dice, or dice favorable to the Allies we could assign percentages to the varies bad dice and come up with some estimate of how often the Germans would win. BTW if you did that it would be awesome if you used 16% / 68% /16% as the low, normal and high parameters.

All I want to test for is IF the Allies get fair dice would they win every time.

Alright, that sounds logical, taking one step at a time. My first guess they wouldn’t but I am going to play a solo game first with this. I want to see what effect the average dice will have on the game. After that we can play.

Here is a link to a solo test I started. I will place the methodology instructions there that I am using for the testing.

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/41401/andrewaagamer-solo-test?_=1733436170864

@DoManMacgee to the death.

@Karl7 your subs each get to fire a shot. If they miss, I can submerge or fire back.

Did you fire once in each of those battles?

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: The Rising Sun

Game History

Round: 3 Combat Move - Russians 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry moved from Ulaan Ude to Irkutsk 1 EarlyFighter moved from Jinan to Irkutsk 1 Artillery and 2 Infantrys moved from Jinan to Quingdao Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 6 Infantrys and 4 Mech.Infs; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat - Russians Battle in Irkutsk Russians attack with 1 Artillery, 1 EarlyFighter and 1 Infantry Masaharu defend with 1 Artillery Russians roll dice for 1 Artillery, 1 EarlyFighter and 1 Infantry in Irkutsk, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Masaharu roll dice for 1 Artillery in Irkutsk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 Artillery, 1 EarlyFighter and 1 Infantry in Irkutsk, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Masaharu roll dice for 1 Artillery in Irkutsk, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Artillery owned by the Masaharu lost in Irkutsk Russians win, taking Irkutsk from Masaharu with 1 Artillery, 1 EarlyFighter and 1 Infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Masaharu: 1 Artillery Battle in Quingdao Russians attack with 1 Artillery and 2 Infantrys Masaharu defend with 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry Russians roll dice for 1 Artillery and 2 Infantrys in Quingdao, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Masaharu roll dice for 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry in Quingdao, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 Infantrys owned by the Russians lost in Quingdao 1 Infantry owned by the Masaharu and 1 Artillery owned by the Masaharu lost in Quingdao Russians win, taking Quingdao from Masaharu with 1 Artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Russians: 2 Infantrys Casualties for Masaharu: 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 Infantry moved from Ulaan Ude to Ustkut 2 Tanks moved from Jinan to Ulaan Ude 5 Infantrys moved from Kyzal to Ulaan Ude 1 Infantry moved from Jinquan to Kyzal 1 Elite moved from Kaask to Kyzal 1 Artillery moved from Kaask to Tulun 6 Infantrys moved from Kaask to Tulun 4 Mech.Infs moved from Achinsk to Tulun 1 EarlyFighter moved from Irkutsk to Ulaan Ude Place Units - Russians 6 Infantrys placed in Kaask 4 Mech.Infs placed in Achinsk Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Masaharu regular : 0.67 Russians regular : 0.17

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TripleA Turn Summary: Yamamoto round 9

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World At War

Game History

Round: 9 Combat Move - Yamamoto 1 unit repaired. 1 Destroyer moved from 85 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone 6 Adv.Fighters and 2 Fighters moved from 85 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone 1 Destroyer moved from 85 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone 1 Destroyer moved from 85 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone 1 S.Bomber moved from Chubu to 76 Sea Zone 1 Adv.Fighter moved from Chubu to 76 Sea Zone 2 Destroyers moved from 85 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 1 Elite moved from Chubu to 85 Sea Zone 1 Elite and 1 S.Submarine moved from 85 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 1 Elite moved from 101 Sea Zone to Ulithi 2 Artillerys and 1 Infantry moved from Yap to Ulithi 1 Elite moved from Chubu to 85 Sea Zone 2 Infantrys moved from Tokyo to 85 Sea Zone 1 Elite and 2 Infantrys moved from 85 Sea Zone to Iwo Jima 2 Transports moved from 105 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 2 Artillerys and 2 Infantrys moved from Banjarmasin to 110 Sea Zone 2 Artillerys, 2 Infantrys and 2 Transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone 2 Infantrys moved from 105 Sea Zone to S.Thailand 4 Artillerys, 2 Infantrys and 1 Tank moved from S.Thailand to N.Thailand 2 Artillerys moved from 105 Sea Zone to S.Thailand 2 Transports moved from 105 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone Purchase Units - Yamamoto Yamamoto buy 6 Artillerys, 1 Battleship, 2 Bunkers, 2 Destroyers, 1 Elite, 7 Infantrys, 1 Marine and 1 S.Submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat - Yamamoto Battle in N.Thailand Yamamoto attack with 4 Artillerys, 2 Infantrys and 1 Tank British defend with 1 Infantry Yamamoto roll dice for 4 Artillerys, 2 Infantrys and 1 Tank in N.Thailand, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 2.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 Infantry in N.Thailand, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the British lost in N.Thailand Yamamoto win, taking N.Thailand from British with 4 Artillerys, 2 Infantrys and 1 Tank remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for British: 1 Infantry Battle in 86 Sea Zone Yamamoto attack with 6 Adv.Fighters, 1 Destroyer and 2 Fighters Americans defend with 2 S.Submarines Americans roll dice for 2 S.Submarines in 86 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits Yamamoto roll dice for 6 Adv.Fighters, 1 Destroyer and 2 Fighters in 86 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/9 hits, 4.00 expected hits 1 Destroyer owned by the Yamamoto lost in 86 Sea Zone 2 S.Submarines owned by the Americans lost in 86 Sea Zone Yamamoto win with 6 Adv.Fighters and 2 Fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Yamamoto: 1 Destroyer Casualties for Americans: 2 S.Submarines Battle in 101 Sea Zone Yamamoto attack with 2 Destroyers and 1 S.Submarine Americans defend with 1 Cruiser and 1 S.Submarine Yamamoto roll dice for 1 S.Submarine in 101 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 S.Submarine in 101 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 S.Submarine owned by the Americans lost in 101 Sea Zone Yamamoto roll dice for 2 Destroyers in 101 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 Cruiser in 101 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Yamamoto roll dice for 1 S.Submarine in 101 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 Cruiser owned by the Americans lost in 101 Sea Zone Yamamoto win with 2 Destroyers and 1 S.Submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22 Casualties for Americans: 1 Cruiser and 1 S.Submarine Battle in 76 Sea Zone Yamamoto attack with 1 Adv.Fighter, 2 Destroyers and 1 S.Bomber British defend with 1 Destroyer Yamamoto roll dice for 1 Adv.Fighter, 2 Destroyers and 1 S.Bomber in 76 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 Destroyer in 76 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Destroyer owned by the British lost in 76 Sea Zone Yamamoto win with 1 Adv.Fighter, 2 Destroyers and 1 S.Bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 Destroyer Battle in Iwo Jima Yamamoto attack with 1 Elite and 2 Infantrys Americans defend with 1 Infantry Yamamoto roll dice for 1 Battleship in Iwo Jima, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Americans lost in Iwo Jima Yamamoto win, taking Iwo Jima from Americans with 1 Elite and 2 Infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Americans: 1 Infantry Battle in Ulithi Yamamoto attack with 2 Artillerys, 1 Elite and 1 Infantry Americans defend with 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry Yamamoto roll dice for 2 Artillerys, 1 Elite and 1 Infantry in Ulithi, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry in Ulithi, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Americans lost in Ulithi Yamamoto roll dice for 2 Artillerys, 1 Elite and 1 Infantry in Ulithi, round 3 : 3/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 Artillery in Ulithi, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Yamamoto lost in Ulithi 1 Artillery owned by the Americans lost in Ulithi Yamamoto win, taking Ulithi from Americans with 2 Artillerys and 1 Elite remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Americans: 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry Casualties for Yamamoto: 1 Infantry Non Combat Move - Yamamoto 1 Destroyer moved from 85 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone 2 Fighters moved from 86 Sea Zone to 85 Sea Zone 3 Adv.Fighters moved from 86 Sea Zone to 85 Sea Zone 2 Adv.Fighters moved from 86 Sea Zone to 85 Sea Zone 1 Adv.Fighter moved from 86 Sea Zone to 85 Sea Zone 1 Adv.Fighter moved from 76 Sea Zone to 85 Sea Zone 1 S.Bomber moved from 76 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 S.Bomber moved from 93 Sea Zone to Davao 1 Infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi 3 Infantrys moved from Kwangtung to Hunan 2 Transports moved from 84 Sea Zone to 85 Sea Zone Place Units - Yamamoto 1 Bunker placed in Sumatra 1 Bunker placed in Malaya 2 Artillerys and 2 Infantrys placed in Banjarmasin 2 Artillerys and 2 Infantrys placed in Davao 1 Battleship, 2 Destroyers and 1 S.Submarine placed in 85 Sea Zone 2 Artillerys, 1 Elite, 3 Infantrys and 1 Marine placed in Tokyo Turn Complete - Yamamoto Yamamoto collect 90 PUs; end with 90 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Yamamoto regular : 5.17 Americans regular : -1.00 British regular : -0.67

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