AAE40 setup ( now verified)

So using your data IL, with a ratio of:

Fighter: 1:150
Tac (best I can tell): 1:150
Bomber: 1:600

Germany: 7 Fighter, 4 Tac, 2 Bomber
Japan: 9 Fighter, 2 Tac, 1 Bomber
UK: 5 Fighter, 1 Tac, 1 Bomber
Italy: 4 Fighter, 1 Tac, 1 Bomber

Russia/US have huge air forces, hard to tell how many units they should have based on quality/experience, but my guess is:
US: 8 Fighter, 3 Tac, 2 Bomber
Russia: 4 Fighter, 2 Tac, 1 Bomber

Wow… I am impressed. I really like that you guys are doing all this but, do you have any sort of day job? This is a lot of work…

You could take a real map of the world and draw in the actual AAE/P40 borders and SZ’s.

@Imperious:

So using your data IL, with a ratio of:

Fighter: 1:150
Tac (best I can tell): 1:150
Bomber: 1:600

Germany: 7 Fighter, 4 Tac, 2 Bomber
Japan: 9 Fighter, 2 Tac, 1 Bomber
UK: 5 Fighter, 1 Tac, 1 Bomber
Italy: 4 Fighter, 1 Tac, 1 Bomber

Russia/US have huge air forces, hard to tell how many units they should have based on quality/experience, but my guess is:
US: 8 Fighter, 3 Tac, 2 Bomber
Russia: 4 Fighter, 2 Tac, 1 Bomber

OK this is great… BUT you need to qualify some of the planes and ‘discount’ the numbers ( by type) of really inferior types like old WW1 biplanes that inflate the total and really saw no action or could not be classified at front line planes.

I did this with some of the old battleships, rating Germany down a BB because of either pocket battleships ( which are really more like a cruiser) and old WW1 BB’s

ON the Carriers some of the old small carriers were counted at 50% rate into my figures ( example: Hermes and Hosho)

I think your numbers in view of this may be off by 1 plane here and there. PLease check.

Today i will work on Land and lets compare notes.

Once we know what each had in terms of total pieces we can begin to study the placement and plug in the numbers to build us a historical setup.

ok, so maybe the following changes:
Germany: 7 Fighter, 4 Tac, 1 Bomber  - Lets be serious- Germany shouldn’t have 2 bombers at start if we want some UK fleet to survive Round 1
Japan: 9 Fighter, 2 Tac, 1 Bomber
UK: 4 Fighter, 1 Tac, 1 Bomber  
India: 2 Fighter, 1 Tac
Italy: 2 Fighter, 1 Tac  - Reduce the Italian air arm significantly.  They weren’t well renowned anyway.
France: 1 Fighter
ANZAC: 2 Fighter
US: 6 Fighter, 3 Tac, 2 Bomber - Reduction based on war experience
Russia: 2 Fighter, 1 Tac, 1 Bomber - Reduction based on quality/leadership

Do those look better?

How will the land units be represented? Historically the Russian troops outnumbered the Germans, but had equipment spread out all over the front when Barbarossa began in 1941. The Germans were able to punch holes in the lines and creat massive encirclements of the Russian troops……that is tough to accomplish with the current game mechanics.

Going purely off the numbers how will the axis even have a shot at victory?

I understand that unit quality, troop experience etc. will need to be accounted for…but how can that be quantified?

They have a good shot.  BUT Germany and Italy need to be aggressive and coordinated at the outset in order to pull it off.  Italy can keep the UK busy in Africa, and Germany needs to do a balancing act by either throwing the Luftwaffe at UK and then all guns east or the reverse, hold Russia at bay and pull a fast Sea Lion.

The thing that really worries me is UK’s split income.  The fact that 16+ IPCs have to go to India means that UK is weaker then she appears.  To me, the UK will need all her IPCs centered in Europe to survive till Russia and USA rev up.

@Imperious:

OK then here are some figures:

Ship Type   BB   CV   CA   DD   SS   AP   Fighter   T Bomber
Germany   1      1   2   2   1     
Italy   2      2   3   3   1     
Japan   3   2   3   5   2   4     
UK   4   2   4   8   2   6     
USSR   1         1   1   1     
France   2      2   3   3   1     
Anzac                  1     
USA   3   2   3   8   4   6     
Spain            1      1     
Argentina            1           
Brazil                  1     
Turkey                       
Dutch               1

BB  3
CV  4
CA 10
DD 20
SS  30

what this chart means is take units by type and divide by 3,4,10,20, or 30

hey il, you have made some mistakes with your historical repersentation of navies. actual fleet strength around May-June 1940 is below

BB CV CA DD SS
10 8 38 108 68 Japan
15 7 37 118 112 USA
16 6 70 214 78 Commonwealth
8 0 18 70 25 France
3 0 6 68    218 USSR
4 0 13 26 240 Germany
0 0 5 12   0    Netherlands
6 0 22 59 146 Italy
1 0 4 13 11 Turkey
2 0 7   1 14 Spain
2 0 2   7    0  Brazil
2 0 4 30   0  Argentina

now you can do any ratios you like to get to a board game amount. but you have errors in your real life fleets, one example that jumps out at me is your germany having 1 game CV (4 real life CV) when germany never had the single graf zepplin operational.

i will use a chart that shows ratios of  BB 5/1,    CV 8/3,    CA 19/1,    DD 27/1,  SS 34/1
these ratios are what larry used to convert japans real 1940 navy to pac40. i then spread it across the other powers.

BB CV   CA   DD   SS
2.00 3.00 2.00 4.00 2.00 Japan
3.00 2.63 1.95 4.37 3.29 USA
3.20 2.25 3.68 7.93 2.29 Commonwealth
1.60 0.00 0.95 2.59 0.74 France
0.60 0.00 0.32 2.52 6.41 USSR
0.80 0.00 0.68 0.96 7.06 Germany
0.00 0.00 0.26 0.44 0.00 Netherlands
1.20 0.00 1.16 2.19 4.29 Italy
0.20 0.00 0.21 0.48 0.32 Turkey
0.40 0.00 0.37 0.78 0.41 Spain
0.40 0.00 0.11 0.26 0.00 Brazil
0.40 0.00 0.21 1.11 0.00 Argentina

if i was to make a more historical accurate game setup i would round the navies to the following.

BB CV CA DD SS
2   3   2   4   2 Japan
3   3   2   4   3 USA
3   2   4   8   2 Commonwealth
2   0   1   2   1 France
1   0   0   3   6 USSR
1   0   0   1   7 Germany
0   0   0   1   0 Netherlands
1   0   1   3   4 Italy
0   0   1   0   0 Turkey
0   0   1   1   0 Spain
0   0   0   1   0 Brazil
0   0   0   1   0 Argentina