Europe 1940 shows up on Wizards site…with screenshot

@brettstarr4:

I don’t like the coloring of the board.  I wish it were all Earth-shaded, like Google Earth or whatever.  I think that would be best.  Experienced players would know which countries were neutral and etc., and the ones owned by hte powers will have troops or decals on them anyways.

Or I wish the board were colored for teh sake of being colored, like AA Revised was.  At least there you could tell they didn’t try to make it look like the Earth.  Here they mix the two themes and it doesnt look good to me.  Small critique though, it won’t stop me from buying the game.

Well in the AA50 they started doing that, they wanted it to look more real, and the continued with Pacific 40 and Spring 42.

Okay so I’m reading the description and let me show you guys a gaffe on their part:

Axis & Allies Europe 1940 will feature an oversized board that measures 35" wide by 32" high.

Finally, this deluxe theater-level game is designed to play together with Axis & Allies Pacific 1940. Together these two games will create the greatest Axis & Allies experience to date, with a combined board measuring 5’ wide by 32" high and over a thousand sculptured combat units.

Does anyone else notice that the measurements don’t match up? I mean if each board is 35"x32", then combining them should make a board 70"x32" right? Not 60"x32", as stated above. Do you guys think that this is just a typo, or the actual measurements are off?

Obvious the European map will be smaller

Well both boards are 35"x32", so either that 60"x32" is a misprint or the boards are 30"x32". When I get home tonight I am going to measure the board and get to the bottom of this.

@maverick_76:

Well both boards are 35"x32", so either that 60"x32" is a misprint or the boards are 30"x32". When I get home tonight I am going to measure the board and get to the bottom of this.

Yes I did notice the measurements seemed off.  I would like someone to get to the bottom of this haha… But I just assumed it was 70" by 32" and the statement intended “over” 5’, since 70" isn’t quite six feet, and it doesnt read well to say the board will be 5.833 feet by 32 inches.

It’s 35’’ wide

Well to make it sound even better they should state, “almost 6 feet.”

off topic much? really its just a box…. why so serious?

@Dylan:

@UN:

@Dylan:

I’m going to call you Joker

Wanna know how I got these scars?

@idk_iam_swiss:

off topic much? really its just a box…. why so serious?

It is just a box, I just don’t understand why the flag-waving British patriots have to whine and complain about it.

Their British they always do that.

And Americans and Canadians never do that… whistles innocently

It’s just because we were colonies. British whininess got passed on to us.

UN, could you show me where people were complaining about the lack of British flag? I didn’t see any.

@calvinhobbesliker:

UN, could you show me where people were complaining about the lack of British flag? I didn’t see any.

Heck, I will…

I mean, I think it should be there… perhaps with more cause than the French (no offence UN), but at this point I don’t care all that much. As long as the US is on there. Do I think they (the British) should be there: yes. Does it matter: no.

@UN:

…I wonder who’s the designer for these wonderful covers? Seems like the same guy who was behind AA50, AA1942, and Pacific 1940…

Agreed… I do believe the covers are quite interesting and great works of art themselves… regardless of any minor issues I may have brought up.

I think the boards themselves are improving too. I read somewhere recently about the dissatisfaction with the look of the new maps. … Personally i think they are a huge improvement over the old ones (especially old Europe, Pacific and Revised). I love the new and realistic look of a satellite picture, rather than solidly colored territories. When I compare AA Revised or old Europe/Pacific to AA50 or P40/E40 … they look awful. And not very cool.

ahh…should have scanned forum more thoroughly.  :-P

@Upside-down_Turtle:

ahh…should have scanned forum more thoroughly.  :-P

Well IL locked it up so I guess it couldn’t be that hard to find  :wink:

it’s IL’s way of rooting out the stupid…or the lazy  :-P

1)the Brit flag has been seen on almost every Axis and Allies game to date, and even if it wasn’t the UK faction has been represented in every Axis and Allies board game (except Guadacanal and maybe the Battle of the Bulge–-haven’t played Bulge). Additionally, the UK is going to be well represented in Europe 1940 (Global 1940 even more so!).

Not having the flag on E1940 is like not having the US flag on P1940. It doesn’t matter how many times it’s been on the box – the US flag has been there too – the flags are to represent the major combatants and to give the box a historical grounding. The box should represent the time and events in which the game is set.

2)I see nothing wrong with the Free French flag being the “main” flag here. Free French contribution to the Allied war effort wasn’t significant to turn the strategic tide, but it was enough to warrant worthy mention. However, all of that is irrelevant; this is the introduction of France as a full power for the first time in Axis and Allies. Sure, Italy’s flag might not have been shown in AA50 but you don’t see the Italians complaining do you?

Italy was one of the aggressors, and a poor one at that. Most of what they did was German-lead, and by mid 1943 they were out of the war. Comparing Britain and the Commonwealth to the Italians is like comparing the US contribution to the French. I think Italy deserved a flag, I think France deserves one here, but it really really isn’t hard to get all of them on the box. It really isn’t.

Really, I don’t see what’s so insulting about the British flag not being shown on Europe 1940. We know what it looks like, we know how much the British contributed to the war effort (at least, people who know their history do),

Because America has a very very bad habit of sidelining other countries contributions in that war, and this feels like more of the same. Anyone who didn’t know their history and looked at that box would think that Britain wasn’t even involved but that the US was. Let me just illustrate what I mean: This game is called “Axis and Allies Europe 1940”, right? America was not even involved in the war in Europe in 1940! And not even in 1941! But what do we get on the box? Front and centre – Marshall. Why? And we also get Patton. Really? Europe 1940 – Patton? Again – Why?

It is just a box, I just don’t understand why the flag-waving British patriots have to whine and complain about it.

Complaining is often conveniently written-off as “whining” when someone disagrees with the complaint being made, but that doesn’t actually invalidate the complaint. Plus, that was a very disingenuous depiction of what’s happening. Axis and Allies is a historical war game based on events that actually happened. I wonder how a US vet might feel if they were shown a box for P1940 in which the Brits were front and center and the US flag didn’t appear? I’m sure they’d love it.

If the A & A range ever came out with a Russian front game, I would fully expect to see the US at the centre of the box with a flag right there clearly visible. Russians? Do we really need to show them? We all know they were there. I’m not really worried about that happening, though; the US didn’t fight on the Russian front so they’ll never make a game out of it, even though a Barbarossa / Stalingrad game would’ve completely pwned ‘Guadalcanal’ and ‘Bulge’.