Re: Field Marshal Games Pieces Project Discussion thread

this it s a king tiger top vs a panther so to me its a king tiger which i was hope full for! :-D

maby i shoul complain about something else so he shows us more! :-P :lol: :-D

wow :-o its so hard to remember that these are aaa size not aaa mini size.

@Rorschach:

Are you accounting for the fact that the knees are bent considerably, making the figure crouch somewhat?

Absolutely. My past career was traditional animation, which involves extensive training in life drawing. I have experience in this area, just backing my statement by explaining sight measurement as a method of proof. I can tell at a glance this isn’t realistic proportion, it doesn’t take a genius to see the inconsistency in style.

Yes, it’s very cool, just doesn’t jive with Italy.

FMG awesome vehicles there, not sure why you want to distract from the fact that your infantry is wonky though, it’s your money tell them to fix it =P

@inverted:

@Rorschach:

Are you accounting for the fact that the knees are bent considerably, making the figure crouch somewhat?

Absolutely. My past career was traditional animation, which involves extensive training in life drawing. I have experience in this area, just backing my statement by explaining sight measurement as a method of proof. I can tell at a glance this isn’t realistic proportion, it doesn’t take a genius to see the inconsistency in style.

Yes, it’s very cool, just doesn’t jive with Italy.

FMG awesome vehicles there, not sure why you want to distract from the fact that your infantry is wonky though, it’s your money tell them to fix it =P

The sculpts shown are not final.  There are revisions to them all.  The White Plastic images of Italy are final as they were made right out of the mould.

I just want to thank you, FMG, for making this come true  :-)

Lovely German vehicles FMG, thank you!  :-) Tell me, are they in actual size compared to one another? Or are they three seperate photographs merged together?

@FieldMarshalGames:

The sculpts shown are not final.  There are revisions to them all.  The White Plastic images of Italy are final as they were made right out of the mould.

Fantastic. Those Italy pieces are exceptional, really looking forward to some house rules with that commander.

The vehicles look great.  I would love to see side views.

One problem, I think the truck and half-track are too big and need to be scaled down.  They shouldn’t be the same size as a King Tiger tank.

This is why I asked if the picture reprsented three seperate photographs merged together. Because if the sizes are in direct proportion to one another, then I would definitely say that the Tank needs to be bigger.

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@FieldMarshalGames:

The sculpts shown are not final.  There are revisions to them all.  The White Plastic images of Italy are final as they were made right out of the mould.

Fantastic. Those Italy pieces are exceptional, really looking forward to some house rules with that commander.

That’s exactly what I’m looking for. Any ideas? How should these guys work? Maybe like the old Generals from Conquest of Empires?

@Lozmoid:

This is why I asked if the picture reprsented three seperate photographs merged together. Because if the sizes are in direct proportion to one another, then I would definitely say that the Tank needs to be bigger.

They will all be the same size.  WOTC pcs are NOT to scale.  Look at the Infantry vs the Tank, or the Bomber.

I always hated the “dinky” little trucks from AABOTB  or the Halftracks from AA40 Series.

Maybe the Commander unit gives bonus attack/defense to all units in the area or represents a mobile capital (Kill the “President” variant/scenario/National objective bonus)?

@FieldMarshalGames:

@Lozmoid:

This is why I asked if the picture reprsented three seperate photographs merged together. Because if the sizes are in direct proportion to one another, then I would definitely say that the Tank needs to be bigger.

They will all be the same size.  WOTC pcs are NOT to scale.  Look at the Infantry vs the Tank, or the Bomber.

I always hated the “dinky” little trucks from AABOTB  or the Halftracks from AA40 Series.

same i always loose them in the carpet or on the map even!

@FieldMarshalGames:

They will all be the same size.  WOTC pcs are NOT to scale.  Look at the Infantry vs the Tank, or the Bomber.

I always hated the “dinky” little trucks from AABOTB  or the Halftracks from AA40 Series.

Ah, that’s a shame. I for one would prefer the Tank unit to be slightly larger than the Halftrack and Truck units but oh well, they’re still great. Obviously I appreciate that the Infantry, Bomber and Tank would not be to scale. But there you have different types of units. I think that units of similar type should be fairly accurate in proportion. Sea units are. Shouldn’t land vehicles also share this same format?

How are the Sea Units accurate in proportion?

:roll:the bismark is defintley not that small comparred to a sub and destroyer!

I agree with Lozmoid.  Of course, a battleship is not going to be on the same scale as a tank, an infantry or a bomber.  That would be impossible to play this game.  However, units within the same category (vehicles, air units, naval vessels) should be somewhat close to scale. 
I also understand that it won’t be 100% perfectly to scale also, like cminke mentioned about battleships vs destroyers and submarines.  Yes, in real life a battleship was much larger than a destroyer or submarine and in the A&A world, if subs and destroyers were in actual scale to battleships, they would be like straight pins and barely an inch or less in length.  That would be impossible to play with.  However, even in the A&A world, a battleship is bigger than a cruiser, a cruiser is bigger than a destroyer, a destroyer is bigger than a submarine.
It’s the same with air units.  Strategic bombers are largest, tactical bombers are mid size and fighters are the smallest.  It’s probably not in perfect scale, but they are still noticably different in size for easy recognition and works for our gaming purposes.
Vehicles should also follow this rule.  A truck or a half-track should NOT be as large as a King Tiger tank.  That would look absurd.  Making them this big is dangerously moving into Table Tactics territory (with Shermans the same size as Tigers, etc.).  All the land units, NOT including infantry or artillery, should be at least close to proper scale.
On a personal note, I LIKE the trucks from BOTB and the half-tracks from Europe 40.  I think they make the board look better and I like that they are smaller than tanks, even the light Japanese and Italian tanks.  You really need to reconsider this FMG.

I second what knp said.

I know Italy is already molded - what is done is done. But the next countries should have accurately scaled pieces.