• You should use the Alpha + .2 rules/setup.  The OOB situation is much worse.


  • @450thMSAF:

    were playing by the rules in the rulebook i play axis and my problem is germany is always pushed back by the uk and then killed by russia then italy is next sometimes i can get japan to save the axis but not for long before im done with the game

    OOB is very un-balanced, use Alpha 2


  • is alpha 2 just a setup or is the whole game different


  • @450thMSAF:

    is alpha 2 just a setup or is the whole game different

    Different setup and different national objectives and a few modified rules (scramble rules for example)


  • ok i found nation objectives and the setup so now you think it will be a little more balenced


  • I know it is. Germany has a minor IC in Germany to start the game in OOB,they have a major IC in Alpha 2. That right there helps Germany immensely.


  • that is helpful when i play germany i have to put all my crap in west germany


  • @450thMSAF:

    that is helpful when i play germany i have to put all my crap in west germany

    Yes, and now instead of needing 2 turns to move your infantry to the Russian front you can do it in 1 turn, but this is just one of the good diferences ALPHA 2 has


  • ok thanks for informing me about alpha 2 now any performance tips???


  • @450thMSAF:

    ok thanks for informing me about alpha 2 now any performance tips???

    Do you know all the details about the rules, even if you think so read the manual again it helps me alot…

    If you really think that you know every single detail of the rules, be more specific on how does your dad beats you, what he uses, where he attacks from …


  • I play a lot against my nephew who has much less experience than I do with A&A games.  I have noticed a few tendencies he has that hurt him:

    1. Wishful thinking - He will see only the positive outcomes when deciding to attack, and forgets that balanced fights will go against him half the time.

    2. Too aggressive - He will attack too early when not ready, and sometimes with too few units.

    3. Focuses too much on one thing - He will see only one part of the map, and wants to accomplish one thing, and forgets that the game is fought everywhere - you must watch tne entire map at all times.

    Hope this helps.


  • @450thMSAF:

    were playing by the rules in the rulebook i play axis and my problem is germany is always pushed back by the uk and then killed by russia then italy is next sometimes i can get japan to save the axis but not for long before im done with the game

    G1 buy a carrier, sink as many UK ships as possible. G2 buy 12 trannies. G3 buy lots of bombers in France. Now you invade UK and next turn you bombard the Naval Base and Airbase in Gibraltar to ruins. Since you now control UK, they cant repair this bases, so the US units that land in Gibraltar turn 4 will get less range. Then you load the 12 trannies and invade Leningrad. Buy 10 artillery in Germany turn 4, and move them against Moscow. Then buy 8 Mechs and 2 Tanks in Germany every turn, and move them against Moscow. Soon you dad will lose.


  • Download the electronic map(Sgt. Wonko’s map) and go through some of the games online, looking at some of the more experienced players online, follow along w/their moves and look at their opening moves. That should give you a good idea of what your opening moves should be, what strategies you should implement, etc… Also read through a lot of the posts online. That will give you good ideas as well.


  • @Razor:

    you invade UK and next turn you bombard the Naval Base and Airbase in Gibraltar to ruins. Since you now control UK, they cant repair this bases, so the US units that land in Gibraltar turn 4 will get less range.

    !!!  OMG

    I’ve been so concerned with Gibraltar as Germany that I am shucking units there, putting an AA gun and leaving my fleet there.

    With this move I can leave my ships to fight against Russia and just bomb Gibraltar!  Amazing, its little moves like this that some people see as common sense and others miss entirely.


  • kinda funny shadowguidex my dad pointed out the same things  :-D


  • Trade sides, you know how to win as the Allies if he’s getting win after win as the Allies. Give him some of his own medicine.
      Try to incorporate new players, more people more opportunities both success and failure and look into the on line games to see what the pro’s do
      Buy weighted dice    :)


  • great ideas any paticular things i should buy in my early to turns to get a better turnout


  • @450thMSAF:

    kinda funny shadowguidex my dad pointed out the same things  :-D

    Well, he and I have played about 10 games, I have won all that we have finished, but he’s on the verge of beating me, since he gets to see my strategies with both sides each time.  Just learn and get better each game, remember what went well and what didn’t, and develop and hone your skills over time.  Eventually you’ll beat him, but be patient and don’t ever give up.  Good luck.


  • i need something to do with italy though they just ……SIT THERE


  • @450thMSAF:

    i need something to do with italy though they just ……SIT THERE

    North Africa = 5 IPC
    Egypt Trilogy = 6 IPC
    Iraq = 2 IPC
    C. Persia = 2 IPC
    NW. Persia = 2 IPC
    Caucasus = 5 IPC

    S. Africa is a good target as well!

    Shouldn’t be overly difficult for Italy to get into the 60 IPC range, if Germany is running cover for them out of SZ 112. (Since it can hit SZ 91 and Italian aircraft can clear SZ 110/SZ 104.)

    Yes, I generally have a strategic bomber or two for Italy primarily to clear SZ 104.  I’m crazy.  Ask anyone. ^_^  I just nailed India in a game because France forgot to declare war.  They were in a blocking position, but they had never been attacked by Japan and never had declared war on Japan so I could ignore them.  Crazy works (sometimes.)

    For the record, if you are REALLY zealous, try GHR34’s Kill America First strategy!

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