Table Tactics New Product Release

[DrLarsen]

A medical question for you Doctor.  After reading all these posts I find black & blue marks all over me?

Sorry man, not that kind of dr.  (I have a doctorate in history, and decided to go by DrLarsen as that’s what my students knew me as, back when I joined this forum to get ideas for the “Historical Strategy Boardgames Club” I’d created… but please, call me Aaron…)

As to the criticism, just remember that IL and the gang mean well, even if they’re a little blunt at times.  These six sets of “oversized armor” & “oddball infantry” are an unfortunate mis-step by being too far outside of traditional AA size parameters (for tanks) and style parameters (for infantry), but you still have time to get it on the right track for the Frenchies.

I would have to say that it will be very important to hit the color match as close to the bulls-eye as you can for the Frenchies, especially if you chose to skip doing your own infantry/transport/artillery pieces like we suggested, which probably makes sense.  Skipping some of those pieces for which there will be less demand for alternatives/upgrades makes sense, but as “Aaron’s Axis & Allies Accessories Axiom” clearly states:

“if you aren’t COMPLETE, you must be COMPATIBLE!”  :-D

[knp7765]

@Table:

@knp7765:

That OOB Soviet tank looks like it’s from one of the earlier A&A games where the Soviets were more of a burgandy color.  I got my games later, after they started using the current maroon color for the Soviet Union pieces but a while back I bought a lot of pieces on eBay and it had some of these burgandy Russians.

I have to agree with IL on this.  The current color of Soviet pieces for A&A is maroon, basically a dark brown with a reddish tint to it.  I realize that color matching 100% is very hard but you should come closer than this.  Perhaps these pieces can be used for other games, but your biggest amount of wargamers will want them for A&A.  Thus, that is where you will make your biggest sales.

I don’t have every A&A game out but what I see is an ever changing color selection.  Look back and you will see my German units do match some versions.
Also what I see in the latest Europe version is that the Russian and Italian units are almost the same color.

A lot of you may remember the old original A&A with the British tan and the light colored Japanese tanks and planes that were hard to identify on the board because they look so much alike.  The Japanese infantry were a little darker and that is what I matched my pieces with.  At least I got good feedback from that move.  :-)

Okay, I don’t understand something here.  I have read a number of people saying that the Russians and Italians look alike.  I look down at the board and I can tell them apart fairly easily.  Granted, we are basically talking about two shades of brown, but the Italians are more of a medium brown while the Russians are, to me anyway, quite a bit darker with a slight red tint to them.  I can’t believe that someone would get them so confused as to not be able to tell which is which on the game board.

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I agree with knp - the colors are distinct enough on my board.

Jack, DrLarsens’ axiom is the best I’ve ever heard to describe what we are trying to do - “If it’s not COMPLETE, it must be COMPATIBLE”.

Make the French pieces in exact color matching to the AAE40 French pieces and you will have a runaway hit on your hands.

[finnman]

The russian guns are america. A tompson instead of a ppsh

[DrLarsen]

The russian guns are america. A tompson instead of a ppsh

If you look closely, you’ll notice that he only has to mold sets for the infantry, one for the axis (which are all German small arms) and one for the allies (which includes a mixture of American and British small arms: note that it also has a Bren MG and SMLE rifle.)

If you’re actually planning to use TT’s new infantry (which seems to be a minority from what I’ve heard) just remember that the Russians did use plenty of lend-lease small arms… (including Tommy guns… which the Russians actually criticized for not having enough penetrating power compared to the PPSh against infantry all bundled up vs. the Russian winter.)

[Table Tactics]

@DrLarsen:

I would have to say that it will be very important to hit the color match as close to the bulls-eye as you can for the Frenchies

“if you aren’t COMPLETE, you must be COMPATIBLE!”   :-D

If the color doesn’t fit then you must flush it.  :lol:

[knp7765]

When are the new Russian pieces going to be available at Fairplay Games?

[DrLarsen]

If the color doesn’t fit then you must flush it.

Oh, now, I wouldn’t go that far… speaking as someone who has eagerly collected every color variation I’ve been able to get, on the theory that I might have a use for each of them, as special units, etc…

But as a vender, it is key to get the color ACAP (As close as possible)

When are the new Russian pieces going to be available at Fairplay Games?

Exactly what I was wondering…

[LuckyDay]

My only complaint from what I’ve seen of the new TT stuff is more towards Fairplay; how much do these pieces weigh?  30 pieces somehow comes to 9.50 for S/H from a warehouse via the post office?! or $20 via UPS or whatnot?!  It’s like paying twice for one set (doesn’t get that much better for buying a bunch either, unless I get $125 worth, which would be great, but dang…)  I may actually drive up to Flint to get these and save the shipping… or better yet, Jack, are you in Michigan?  Can I get some straight from you and give you the whole cut of money?

[Rorschach]

@LuckyDay:

My only complaint from what I’ve seen of the new TT stuff is more towards Fairplay; how much do these pieces weigh?  30 pieces somehow comes to 9.50 for S/H from a warehouse via the post office?! or $20 via UPS or whatnot?!  It’s like paying twice for one set (doesn’t get that much better for buying a bunch either, unless I get $125 worth, which would be great, but dang…)  I may actually drive up to Flint to get these and save the shipping… or better yet, Jack, are you in Michigan?  Can I get some straight from you and give you the whole cut of money?

haha, you think that’s bad?  I was hoping to order some of the other sets (with helicopters/jets) but I have to re-think it.  $29.50 for shipping to Canada on a $12 order.  :(

[LuckyDay]

dang, you win, but that’s not a good thing to win at…

[Table Tactics]

@knp7765:

When are the new Russian pieces going to be available at Fairplay Games?

The folks at FairPlayGames are letting me down.  I delivered the Russian’s to them 2 weeks ago and they have not put them up for sale.  :|

[Table Tactics]

@Rorschach:

@LuckyDay:

My only complaint from what I’ve seen of the new TT stuff is more towards Fairplay; how much do these pieces weigh?  30 pieces somehow comes to 9.50 for S/H from a warehouse via the post office?! or $20 via UPS or whatnot?!  It’s like paying twice for one set (doesn’t get that much better for buying a bunch either, unless I get $125 worth, which would be great, but dang…)  I may actually drive up to Flint to get these and save the shipping… or better yet, Jack, are you in Michigan?  Can I get some straight from you and give you the whole cut of money?

haha, you think that’s bad?  I was hoping to order some of the other sets (with helicopters/jets) but I have to re-think it.  $29.50 for shipping to Canada on a $12 order.  :(

Email Tracy & Tiffany at fairplaygames and ask them if they can give you a better deal on the shipping.  I know that the calculator for European orders is messed up.  It may be the same problem for Canada.

[Table Tactics]

@LuckyDay:

My only complaint from what I’ve seen of the new TT stuff is more towards Fairplay; how much do these pieces weigh?  30 pieces somehow comes to 9.50 for S/H from a warehouse via the post office?! or $20 via UPS or whatnot?!  It’s like paying twice for one set (doesn’t get that much better for buying a bunch either, unless I get $125 worth, which would be great, but dang…)  I may actually drive up to Flint to get these and save the shipping… or better yet, Jack, are you in Michigan?  Can I get some straight from you and give you the whole cut of money?

I am in Michigan.  Where do you hail from?

[Table Tactics]

Sorry for not getting back here more often.  I have been working on a new game design that I hope will provide a market for the new “to big stuff”.  Then I could see about fixing my size problem.  :-D

[Variable]

Okay Jack, you’ve got my attention. So let me be the first to ask… Hints? Details to share?

[LuckyDay]

@Table:

I am in Michigan.  Where do you hail from?

I’m from Bay City, but live right now just outside Youngstown OH, so I’m back up fairly regularly.

[DrLarsen]

The folks at FairPlayGames are letting me down.  I delivered the Russian’s to them 2 weeks ago and they have not put them up for sale.

All the more reason to create your own retail outlet for your stuff!

[Table Tactics]

@Variable:

Okay Jack, you’ve got my attention. So let me be the first to ask… Hints? Details to share?

The game will allocate each player so much to buy units.  You decide what to buy.
The game will have no dice rolling or cards that determine the winner.  This will be determined by your fire power, armor class and secret bid.  This will put the outcome in the players hands not in random chance.

I know you guys like dice but sometimes putting the outcome of the battle in your own hands would be a nice change.  Also were trying to make the game around a 2 hour play time.

I figure it would work like this: Saturday play a game then take out the trash.  Play a game then cut the grass.  Play a game then take the wife out to dinner.  Play a game and then play with the wife.

[Table Tactics]

@LuckyDay:

@Table:

I am in Michigan.  Where do you hail from?

I’m from Bay City, but live right now just outside Youngstown OH, so I’m back up fairly regularly.

You almost pass right by my place on your way to Bay City.  I’m sure we can work something out.  :-D