Game 1 of 2025
TGC (Germany) vs Doman (Allies) Europe, oob
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Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 9 armour; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from British Convoy 2 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia Germans take Belorussia from Russians 4 armour and 1 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 armour moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Palestine Germans take Palestine from Middle_East 1 submarine moved from Denmark Strait Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone Germans take U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone from Americans 1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia Germans take Karelia from Russians 1 armour moved from Germany to France 1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to France 2 fighters moved from Germany to France 1 fighter moved from Germany to English Channel Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from East Poland to English Channel Sea Zone Combat - Germans Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans attack with 5 armour and 1 infantry Russians defend with 1 aaGun and 1 armour Germans roll dice for 5 armour and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 4/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 5 armour and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for Russians: 1 armour Battle in English Channel Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 fighter British defend with 1 transport Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 fighter in English Channel Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 transport in English Channel Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 transport owned by the British lost in English Channel Sea Zone Germans win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 transport Battle in France Germans attack with 1 armour and 3 fighters British defend with 1 armour Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 3 fighters in France, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 armour in France, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 armour owned by the British lost in France Germans win, taking France from British with 1 armour and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for British: 1 armour Non Combat Move - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 3 fighters moved from France to Germany 1 bomber moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Germany 1 fighter moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Germany 1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 1 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 7 artilleries and 52 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia 1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia 7 armour moved from Germany to East Poland 11 armour moved from East Poland to Belorussia 1 fighter moved from Germany to East Poland 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Egypt to Palestine 1 battleship and 1 transport moved from Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone 3 armour moved from East Poland to Belorussia Place Units - Germans 9 armour placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 47 PUs; end with 47 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -0.33 Germans regular : 2.17 British regular : -0.50
G5.tsvg I agree its an Achilles heel with the fighter push strategy you have mastered. Otherwise, my games with @Karl7 make me feel that the Germans are best invested in the Mediterranean. I have two games with Karl where the Italian fleet heads out to the Atlantic (one where he did it as the Germans and one where I did it as the Germans) and in each game, imo - it would have been better to stay in the Med. Not a hard opinion. Just a soft opinion at first whiff.
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@DoManMacgee btw the USA transports have been sub stalled - cannot load from the USA this turn.
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@DoManMacgee also, can you edit G bomber to Northern Italy. THANKS
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@The_Good_Captain said in TGC (Germany) vs Doman (Allies) Europe, oob:
G5.tsvg I agree its an Achilles heel with the fighter push strategy you have mastered.
I think it’s an Achilles heel in the sense that it devolves the game into a series of are basically coin flips in the Atlantic. Under my current understanding of the game balance when using OOB rules, neither UK or US can realistically afford to divert money during the initial game turns to buy combat-capable naval units (mostly because naval units pre-AA50 are extremely expensive). This basically means that UK/US have to rely on whatever Destroyers survive the G1 attacks + the Russian Sub to clean up the Atlantic, which is a losing battle any way you slice it.
Turn will be up ASAP.
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@The_Good_Captain Game History
Round: 5 Actions - Russians Russians takes action: Action USAPays1PUs Action USAPays1PUs activates a trigger called: Trigger USAPays1PUs Trigger USAPays1PUs: Americans met a national objective for an additional -1 PUs; end with 41 PUs Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Leningrad to Karelia 3 armour moved from Leningrad to Moscow 5 artilleries and 50 infantry moved from Russia to Moscow 8 infantry moved from Turkestan to Moscow 1 armour moved from Leningrad to Vyborg Russians take Vyborg from Germans 1 armour moved from Vyborg to Karelia Combat - Russians Battle in Karelia Russians attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 fighter Germans defend with 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Karelia, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Karelia Russians win, taking Karelia from Germans with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Karelia to Moscow 1 aaGun moved from Leningrad to Russia Place Units - Russians 7 infantry placed in Moscow Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 19 PUs; end with 20 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : -0.67 Russians regular : 0.33
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Germany: 1 bomber EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Northern Italy: 1 bomber EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode British buy 3 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 submarine moved from North Atlantic Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Leningrad to Moscow 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Syria to Iran 1 infantry moved from Turkestan to Caucasus 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Sea Zone 1 artillery, 2 carriers, 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from North Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to France Combat - British Battle in France British attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Germans defend with 1 armour British roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in France, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 armour in France, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in France British win, taking France from Germans with 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for Germans: 1 armour Non Combat Move - British Place Units - British 3 infantry placed in United Kingdom 1 transport placed in English Channel Sea Zone Turn Complete - British British collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : -0.33 British regular : 0.00
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1d6<=2: 4; Hits: 0
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@The_Good_Captain Let me know what you want to do Re: Submerge/Fight. My buy was:
If that influences your decision making for any reason.
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@DoManMacgee said in TGC (Germany) vs Doman (Allies) Europe, oob:
@The_Good_Captain said in TGC (Germany) vs Doman (Allies) Europe, oob:
G5.tsvg I agree its an Achilles heel with the fighter push strategy you have mastered.
I think it’s an Achilles heel in the sense that it devolves the game into a series of are basically coin flips in the Atlantic. Under my current understanding of the game balance when using OOB rules, neither UK or US can realistically afford to divert money during the initial game turns to buy combat-capable naval units (mostly because naval units pre-AA50 are extremely expensive). This basically means that UK/US have to rely on whatever Destroyers survive the G1 attacks + the Russian Sub to clean up the Atlantic, which is a losing battle any way you slice it.
Turn will be up ASAP.
Yeah… that’s what I kinda thought too but it didn’t really work out that way. The Germans give up any threat to the ME and Africa the instant the fleet leaves the Med. I …“feel” that the small bit of experience I have with this is that the W. Allies can defuse the situation with a thorough understanding of the rules and of course and a hyper efficient use of IPC and purchases. I might have you take a look at this game and Karl7s approach to the German Atlantic fleet… and the (once again) insane use of submarines as the Allies. https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/41374/tgc-germany-vs-karl7-allies-original-europe/90?page=4
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@DoManMacgee submerge
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@The_Good_Captain
Game HistoryRound: 5 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 6 fighters moved from Leningrad to Baltic States 4 fighters moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Karelia EDIT: 1 submarine and 2 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Mid-Atlantic Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in Baltic States Americans attack with 6 fighters Germans defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 6 fighters in Baltic States, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States Americans win with 6 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 6 fighters moved from Baltic States to Moscow EDIT: 1 submarine and 2 transports moved from Mid-Atlantic Sea Zone to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 submarine and 2 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 30 PUs; end with 32 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.00 Germans regular : -0.33
No G6 Moscow this time but the FTR pipeline is gone and US is more or less paralyzed for the immediate future. Germany is probably going to win but I’m still interested in seeing where things go from here.
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Game History
Round: 6 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 8 armour and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing ownership of U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone from Germans to Americans EDIT: Changing PUs for Americans from 32 to 34 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing PUs for Americans from 34 to 36 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Caucasus 1 fighter moved from East Poland to Caucasus 1 armour moved from Palestine to Trans-Jordan Germans take Trans-Jordan from Middle_East 1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Syria Germans take Syria from Middle_East 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Palestine to Syria 1 submarine moved from U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone to British Convoy 4 Sea Zone Germans take British Convoy 4 Sea Zone from British 1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Turkestan Germans take Turkestan from Russians 1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Russia Germans take Russia from Russians 1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Leningrad Combat - Germans Germans creates battle in territory U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone Strategic bombing raid in Leningrad Bombing raid in Leningrad rolls: 2 and costs: 2 PUs. Bombing raid costs 2 PUs Battle in Caucasus Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Caucasus Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 submarine Americans defend with 2 submarines and 4 transports 1 submarine owned by the Germans submerged Non Combat Move - Germans 1 aaGun moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Poland 5 armour moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia 9 armour moved from East Poland to Belorussia 1 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia 1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Germany 1 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland 1 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 9 armour moved from Germany to East Poland 1 battleship and 1 transport moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R. 6 armour moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R. 2 armour moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Belorussia 2 fighters moved from Germany to East Poland 1 fighter moved from Germany to East Poland Place Units - Germans 8 armour and 2 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 49 PUs; end with 50 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : 0.67 Germans regular : 1.33
G6.tsvg I think I can get it to 90% on turn 8 as opposed to 80% next turn.
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@DoManMacgee also, I added 4 IPC to the USA economy since nothing was lost by moving to the Southern USA convoy zone, freeing it, then returning to the embattled zone
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@The_Good_Captain said in TGC (Germany) vs Doman (Allies) Europe, oob:
@DoManMacgee also, I added 4 IPC to the USA economy since nothing was lost by moving to the Southern USA convoy zone, freeing it, then returning to the embattled zone
That was me misunderstanding the rules. I thought you couldn’t leave the “contested” zone and then return in the same move, but re-reading the rules nothing explicitly prohibits it. Thanks.
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@The_Good_Captain Game History
Round: 6 Actions - Russians Russians takes action: Action USAPays4PUs Action USAPays4PUs activates a trigger called: Trigger USAPays4PUs Trigger USAPays4PUs: Americans met a national objective for an additional -4 PUs; end with 32 PUs Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 3 armour, 5 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 71 infantry moved from Moscow to Belorussia 1 armour moved from Karelia to Belorussia Combat - Russians Battle in Belorussia Russians attack with 4 armour, 5 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 71 infantry Germans defend with 20 armour, 7 artilleries, 1 fighter and 51 infantry Russians roll dice for 4 armour, 5 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 71 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 21/82 hits, 17.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 7 artilleries, 1 fighter and 51 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 27/79 hits, 26.67 expected hits 27 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia 21 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia 1 fighter owned by the Russians and 1 bomber owned by the Russians retreated 44 infantry owned by the Russians, 4 armour owned by the Russians and 5 artilleries owned by the Russians retreated to Moscow Germans win with 20 armour, 7 artilleries, 1 fighter and 30 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -18 Casualties for Russians: 27 infantry Casualties for Germans: 21 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Belorussia to Moscow Place Units - Russians 6 infantry placed in Moscow Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 0.33 Russians regular : 3.50
Game History
Round: 6 Purchase Units - British British buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - British 4 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Norway British take Norway from Germans 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Denmark British take Denmark from Germans 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium British take Netherlands-Belgium from Germans 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Iran to Caucasus 1 armour moved from Caucasus to Turkestan 2 fighters moved from Moscow to Turkestan 1 carrier moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from English Channel Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone British take British Convoy 3 Sea Zone from Germans 1 submarine moved from British Convoy 3 Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone Combat - British Battle in Turkestan British attack with 1 armour and 2 fighters Germans defend with 1 infantry British win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for British: 1 armour Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry British creates battle in territory Turkestan Non Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing ownership of Eastern France from Germans to British EDIT: Changing ownership of Vichy France from Germans to British EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 fighters moved from Turkestan to Moscow 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from France to Netherlands-Belgium 1 infantry moved from France to Eastern France 1 infantry moved from France to Vichy France Place Units - British 5 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British
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@The_Good_Captain USA attacks Germans in US East Coast:
[dice 2d6<=2]
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2d6<=2: 6, 3; Hits: 0
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@The_Good_Captain Game History
Round: 6 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 6 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 fighter moved from United States to North Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone Americans take U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone from Germans 1 submarine moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 4 fighters moved from Karelia to Ukraine S.S.R. 6 fighters moved from Moscow to Ukraine S.S.R. Combat - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Battle in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone Americans attack with 2 submarines and 4 transports Germans defend with 1 submarine 2 submarines owned by the Americans submerged 1 submarine owned by the Germans submerged Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Americans attack with 10 fighters Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 8 armour and 1 infantry Germans roll AA dice in Ukraine S.S.R. : 1/10 hits, 1.67 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Americans roll dice for 9 fighters in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 6/9 hits, 4.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 8 armour and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 2/9 hits, 3.00 expected hits 2 fighters owned by the Americans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 5 armour owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Americans roll dice for 7 fighters in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 4/7 hits, 3.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 armour in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. 3 armour owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Americans winAmericans winAmericans win with 4 transports remaining with 4 transports remaining with 6 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -5 Casualties for Americans: 4 fighters Casualties for Germans: 8 armour and 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 6 fighters moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Moscow Place Units - Americans 1 transport placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 40 PUs; end with 46 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 2.00 Germans AA : -0.67 Germans regular : -1.00
If for whatever reason you wanted to shoot back with the German sub, just do it on your end.
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Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 armour, 1 bomber and 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 armour moved from Syria to Iraq Germans take Iraq from Middle_East 1 armour moved from Iraq to Iran Germans take Iran from Middle_East 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Syria to Iran 1 bomber moved from Germany to Leningrad 1 battleship and 1 transport moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone Germans take British Convoy 3 Sea Zone from British 1 submarine moved from British Convoy 4 Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone Germans take U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone from Americans 1 submarine moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone Germans take U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone from Americans 1 submarine moved from U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone Combat - Germans Strategic bombing raid in Leningrad Bombing raid in Leningrad rolls: 1 and costs: 1 PU. Bombing raid costs 1 PU Battle in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 submarine Americans defend with 2 submarines and 5 transports 1 submarine owned by the Germans submerged Non Combat Move - Germans 8 armour moved from Germany to East Poland 1 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia 1 aaGun moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia 1 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland 1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Germany 1 fighter moved from Germany to East Poland 1 fighter moved from Germany to East Poland 1 infantry moved from Russia to Belorussia 1 aaGun moved from Russia to Belorussia Place Units - Germans 1 armour, 1 bomber and 10 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUs
G7.tsvg pretty sure thats GG unless i missed something
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Game History
Round: 7 Actions - Russians Russians takes action: Action USAPays8PUs Action USAPays8PUs activates a trigger called: Trigger USAPays8PUs Trigger USAPays8PUs: Americans met a national objective for an additional -8 PUs; end with 38 PUs Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 3 armour; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 4 armour, 5 artilleries and 50 infantry moved from Moscow to Russia Russians take Russia from Germans 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Moscow to Vyborg Combat - Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 1 aaGun moved from Moscow to Russia Place Units - Russians 3 armour placed in Leningrad Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Agreed but I am going to have some fun on my way out the door.