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SuperbattleshipYamato (Navies) vs VictoryFirst (Armies), Armies vs Navies, a Global 1940 Second Edition variant
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Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 3 infantry and 4 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing ownership of French Central Africa from French to Americans EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 armour moved from French West Africa to French Central Africa 1 armour moved from French Central Africa to Nigeria 1 infantry moved from French West Africa to Nigeria 1 artillery moved from Morocco to Algeria 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Morocco to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry moved from Brazil to Venezuela 1 mech_infantry moved from Central America to Venezuela 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone 1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Central United States to Southeast Mexico 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Central United States 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 87 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Central United States to Southeast Mexico 2 mech_infantrys moved from Central United States to Central America 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Portugal 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Portugal 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 79 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Colombia to Venezuela Combat - Americans Battle in Portugal Americans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry French defend with 1 Flag and 3 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Portugal, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Portugal, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits French roll dice for 3 infantry in Portugal, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Portugal 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Portugal Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Portugal, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits French roll dice for 2 infantry in Portugal, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Portugal 2 infantry owned by the French lost in Portugal Americans win, taking Portugal from French with 1 armour and 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry Casualties for French: 3 infantry Battle in Gibraltar Americans attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry French defend with 1 Flag, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 cruiser in Gibraltar, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Gibraltar, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Gibraltar, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Gibraltar Americans win, taking Gibraltar from French with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for French: 1 infantry Battle in Venezuela Americans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 mech_infantrys Neutral_Armies defend with 1 Flag and 2 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 mech_infantrys in Venezuela, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits Neutral_Armies roll dice for 2 infantry in Venezuela, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans lost in Venezuela 1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Armies lost in Venezuela Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry in Venezuela, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Neutral_Armies roll dice for 1 infantry in Venezuela, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Armies lost in Venezuela Americans win, taking Venezuela from Neutral_Armies with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Americans: 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Neutral_Armies: 2 infantry Battle in 110 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 destroyer, 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 2 submarines Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer, 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 submarines in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits 2 submarines owned by the Russians lost in 110 Sea Zone Americans win with 1 destroyer, 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Russians: 2 submarines Battle in Nigeria Americans attack with 1 armour and 1 infantry French defend with 1 Flag and 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Nigeria, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Nigeria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Nigeria, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Nigeria, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Nigeria 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Nigeria Americans win, taking Nigeria from French with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Casualties for French: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 bomber moved from Venezuela to Algeria 1 aaGun moved from Eastern United States to Central United States 2 aaGuns moved from Western United States to Central United States 2 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea 1 fighter moved from West India to Trans-Jordan Place Units - Americans 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in Central United States 4 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 60 PUs; end with 60 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Sikang 1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Kansu Non Combat Move - Chinese Place Units - Chinese 4 infantry placed in Tsinghai Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 3 PUs; end with 5 PUs Giving Chinese 200% income for 3 PUs; end with 8 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 armour, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 8 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 1 armour and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Afghanistan to Kazakhstan 1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to Iraq 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to Iraq 1 infantry moved from Syria to Iraq 1 artillery moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan 2 infantry moved from Mozambique to 72 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 72 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Persia 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 72 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 76 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Mozambique to Rhodesia 1 fighter moved from India to Iraq 2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 2 destroyers moved from 81 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Germany Combat - British Strategic bombing raid in Germany Germans roll AA dice in Germany : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in Germany rolls: 7 and causes: 7 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in Germany causes 7 damage total. Battle in Persia British attack with 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 Flag and 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Persia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Persia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Persia British win, taking Persia from Russians with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Iraq British attack with 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 Flag, 1 armour and 1 infantry British roll dice for 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Iraq, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Iraq 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Iraq British win, taking Iraq from Russians with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 1 infantry Battle in Kazakhstan British attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Russians defend with 1 Flag and 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Kazakhstan British roll dice for 1 artillery in Kazakhstan, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Kazakhstan British win, taking Kazakhstan from Russians with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British 3 aaGuns moved from Afghanistan to Eastern Persia 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia 1 armour moved from India to Eastern Persia 6 infantry moved from India to West India 4 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to 98 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan 1 bomber moved from Germany to Southern Italy 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco Place Units - British 4 infantry placed in United Kingdom 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Union of South Africa Turn Complete - British British collect 36 PUs; end with 44 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 armour and 4 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 18 PUs; end with 18 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 1 armour and 4 infantryCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.00 French regular : 0.33 Germans AA : -0.17 Russians regular : -0.50 Neutral_Armies regular : 0.00 British regular : -1.00 -
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Algeria to 94 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 transports moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 95 Sea Zone to Northern Italy 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Northern Italy 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Algeria to Libya 1 infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan Combat - Italians Battle in Northern Italy Italians attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 2 infantry French defend with 1 Flag, 1 armour, 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Northern Italy, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits French roll dice for 1 armour and 2 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the French lost in Northern Italy Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Northern Italy, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits French roll dice for 1 armour in Northern Italy, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Northern Italy 1 armour owned by the French lost in Northern Italy Italians win, taking Northern Italy from French with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for French: 1 armour and 2 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to United Kingdom Place Units - Italians 3 infantry placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 13 PUs; end with 18 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
French regular : -0.67 Italians regular : -0.83 -
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 8 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 2 fighters moved from Central America to Morocco 1 cruiser moved from 87 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Afghanistan to Saudi Arabia 2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Saudi Arabia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Burma to India 2 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone Combat - ANZAC Battle in Saudi Arabia ANZAC attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Neutral_Armies defend with 1 Flag and 2 infantry ANZAC roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Saudi Arabia, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Neutral_Armies roll dice for 2 infantry in Saudi Arabia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Saudi Arabia 2 infantry owned by the Neutral_Armies lost in Saudi Arabia ANZAC win, taking Saudi Arabia from Neutral_Armies with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry Casualties for Neutral_Armies: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 79 Sea Zone to West India 2 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes ANZAC take Celebes from Dutch 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 63 Sea Zone to New Zealand 1 fighter moved from New South Wales to Queensland 1 fighter moved from Saudi Arabia to Trans-Jordan Place Units - ANZAC 1 fighter placed in New South Wales Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 23 PUs; end with 31 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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ANZAC Turn 3 Complete Armies vs Navies.tsvg
So, what do you think of the game so far? Do you think it’s balanced?
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Nope!
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Again, are you OK if I don’t post the turn summary?
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Yeah I think the game is pretty fun. I like how the different alliances affect each nation’s strategies. Russia is having some fun while the Germans are building up the Kriegsmarine, which are things you will never see in a standard G40 game.
I’m not sure about balance, I thought the 200% income for the Armies would be a bit too strong but the TUV and income numbers are still in favor of the Navies. We’ll see how it goes!
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Yes.
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Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 3 armour and 6 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 2 carriers, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 41 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 76 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 79 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from India to West India 2 bombers moved from United Kingdom to Germany 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Sikang 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Kweichow to Sikang 4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Shensi to Suiyuyan 1 armour moved from Kweichow to Suiyuyan 1 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Kweichow to Suiyuyan 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Shantung to Kweichow 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Kiangsu to Kweichow 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 101 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 3 destroyers moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Hunan to Kweichow 2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 2 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 17 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Strategic bombing raid in Germany Germans roll AA dice in Germany : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Bombing raid in Germany rolls: 8,3 and causes: 11 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in Germany causes 11 damage total. Battle in Suiyuyan Japanese attack with 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 5 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys Chinese defend with 1 Flag; Russians defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 5 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 3/15 hits, 4.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Suiyuyan Japanese win, taking Suiyuyan from Chinese with 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 5 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in 104 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 destroyer Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 104 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer Battle in Sikang Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 1 Flag and 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Sikang, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 3.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Sikang, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Sikang Japanese win, taking Sikang from Chinese with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 3 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 17 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China 2 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Amur 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Sikang to Kweichow 2 bombers moved from Germany to Southern Italy 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 104 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 64 Sea Zone to 90 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Shantung 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Kiangsu 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Manchuria Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 42 PUs; end with 47 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -0.67 Japanese regular : -2.50 Germans AA : -0.33 Germans regular : -0.33 -
Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 airfield, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Venezuela to Paraguay Americans take Paraguay from Neutral_Armies 1 armour moved from Venezuela to Bolivia Americans take Bolivia from Neutral_Armies 1 mech_infantry moved from Central America to Ecuador Americans take Ecuador from Neutral_Armies 1 mech_infantry moved from Central America to Peru Americans take Peru from Neutral_Armies 1 artillery moved from Venezuela to Brazil 1 artillery moved from Algeria to Tunisia Combat - Americans Battle in 110 Sea Zone Americans attack with 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone Americans win with 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Americans 1 armour moved from Nigeria to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to Southern Italy 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 4 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 armour and 2 infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to 89 Sea Zone 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 2 armour, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 89 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 armour and 2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Korea to Amur 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 76 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 3 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Algeria to 95 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 95 Sea Zone to Southern Italy Place Units - Americans 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Eastern United States Americans undo move 2. 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Central United States 1 airfield placed in Morocco Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Morocco: 1 airfield EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 101 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Central United States: 1 artillery and 1 infantry EDIT: Changing PUs for Americans from 0 to 1 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 60 PUs; end with 61 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.67 Germans regular : -0.33 -
US Turn 4 Complete Armies vs Navies.tsvg
I changed my mind on purchases at the end. I don’t think they were influenced by the battle at all (let me know if you want more information).
Almost immediately after I did it, I wasn’t sure whether making all strict neutrals pro-Armies was a bit much. Then again, the Allies do benefit from it (South America, Angola, Mozambique). 200% income is certainly quite a lot, but the Armies got stomped quickly without it in my playtesting and I’m not a fan of decimals. What are your thoughts on balancing this?
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I am not sure. The game looks a lot more balanced now with the 200% income. The Armies now have a slight economic advantage while the Navies have much more TUV (but of course, most of that comes from naval units).
I think having all the neutrals interact in the game is pretty fun. I’ve always wanted to march to Sweden or to Spain but have never been able to by the rules. I think at this point a bid could be used to make the final balancing tweaks.
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Yes, intercept please.
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Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 airfield, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Venezuela to Paraguay Americans take Paraguay from Neutral_Armies 1 armour moved from Venezuela to Bolivia Americans take Bolivia from Neutral_Armies 1 mech_infantry moved from Central America to Ecuador Americans take Ecuador from Neutral_Armies 1 mech_infantry moved from Central America to Peru Americans take Peru from Neutral_Armies 1 artillery moved from Venezuela to Brazil 1 artillery moved from Algeria to Tunisia Combat - Americans Battle in 110 Sea Zone Americans attack with 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 destroyer Americans win with 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Americans 1 armour moved from Nigeria to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to Southern Italy 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 4 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 armour and 2 infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to 89 Sea Zone 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 2 armour, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 89 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 armour and 2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Korea to Amur 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 76 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 3 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Algeria to 95 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 95 Sea Zone to Southern Italy Place Units - Americans 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Eastern United States Americans undo move 2. 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Central United States 1 airfield placed in Morocco Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Morocco: 1 airfield EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 101 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Central United States: 1 artillery and 1 infantry EDIT: Changing PUs for Americans from 0 to 1 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 60 PUs; end with 61 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Shensi Chinese take Shensi from Japanese Combat - Chinese Non Combat Move - Chinese Place Units - Chinese 2 infantry placed in Tsinghai Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 3 PUs; end with 5 PUs Giving Chinese 200% income for 3 PUs; end with 8 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 armour, 1 factory_minor, 6 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 1 armour and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Turkmenistan: 1 Flag EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to 80 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq 1 artillery moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to Iraq 1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 5 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia 1 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia 1 armour moved from India to Eastern Persia 4 infantry moved from India to West India 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Union of South Africa to Angola 1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Angola 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany 3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany 1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 armour moved from Eastern Persia to Turkmenistan British take Turkmenistan from Russians 1 armour moved from Turkmenistan to Eastern Persia 1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland 1 mech_infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom Combat - British Air Battle in Western Germany British attacks with 4 units heading to Western Germany Germans launches 3 interceptors out of Western Germany Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets Strategic bombing raid in Western Germany Bombing raid in Western Germany rolls: 6 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in Western Germany causes 6 damage total. Battle in Iraq British attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 2 Flags and 3 infantry British win, taking Iraq from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry Battle in Angola British attack with 1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys Neutral_Armies defend with 1 Flag and 2 infantry Neutral_Armies win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -14 Casualties for British: 1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys Casualties for Neutral_Armies: 1 infantry Cleaning up after air battles Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to 98 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 4 infantry moved from Szechwan to Kweichow 1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy Place Units - British 5 infantry placed in United Kingdom 1 infantry placed in Quebec 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Union of South Africa 1 factory_minor placed in Egypt Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Egypt: 1 factory_minor EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Quebec: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Gibraltar: 1 airfield EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - British British collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 armour and 4 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 18 PUs; end with 18 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 1 armour and 4 infantry -
Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 airfield, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Venezuela to Paraguay Americans take Paraguay from Neutral_Armies 1 armour moved from Venezuela to Bolivia Americans take Bolivia from Neutral_Armies 1 mech_infantry moved from Central America to Ecuador Americans take Ecuador from Neutral_Armies 1 mech_infantry moved from Central America to Peru Americans take Peru from Neutral_Armies 1 artillery moved from Venezuela to Brazil 1 artillery moved from Algeria to Tunisia Combat - Americans Battle in 110 Sea Zone Americans attack with 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 destroyer Americans win with 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Americans 1 armour moved from Nigeria to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to Southern Italy 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 4 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 armour and 2 infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to 89 Sea Zone 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 2 armour, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 89 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 armour and 2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Korea to Amur 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 76 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 3 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Algeria to 95 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 95 Sea Zone to Southern Italy Place Units - Americans 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Eastern United States Americans undo move 2. 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Central United States 1 airfield placed in Morocco Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Morocco: 1 airfield EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 101 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Central United States: 1 artillery and 1 infantry EDIT: Changing PUs for Americans from 0 to 1 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 60 PUs; end with 61 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Shensi Chinese take Shensi from Japanese Combat - Chinese Non Combat Move - Chinese Place Units - Chinese 2 infantry placed in Tsinghai Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 3 PUs; end with 5 PUs Giving Chinese 200% income for 3 PUs; end with 8 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 armour, 1 factory_minor, 6 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 1 armour and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Turkmenistan: 1 Flag EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to 80 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq 1 artillery moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to Iraq 1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 5 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia 1 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia 1 armour moved from India to Eastern Persia 4 infantry moved from India to West India 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Union of South Africa to Angola 1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Angola 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany 3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany 1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 armour moved from Eastern Persia to Turkmenistan British take Turkmenistan from Russians 1 armour moved from Turkmenistan to Eastern Persia 1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland 1 mech_infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom Combat - British Air Battle in Western Germany British attacks with 4 units heading to Western Germany Germans launches 3 interceptors out of Western Germany Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets Strategic bombing raid in Western Germany Bombing raid in Western Germany rolls: 6 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in Western Germany causes 6 damage total. Battle in Iraq British attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 2 Flags and 3 infantry British win, taking Iraq from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry Battle in Angola British attack with 1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys Neutral_Armies defend with 1 Flag and 2 infantry Neutral_Armies win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -14 Casualties for British: 1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys Casualties for Neutral_Armies: 1 infantry Cleaning up after air battles Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to 98 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 4 infantry moved from Szechwan to Kweichow 1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy 2 destroyers moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone Place Units - British 5 infantry placed in United Kingdom 1 factory_minor placed in Egypt 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Union of South Africa 1 infantry placed in Quebec Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Quebec: 1 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Egypt: 1 factory_minor EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Gibraltar: 1 airfield EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - British British collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 armour and 4 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 18 PUs; end with 18 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 1 armour and 4 infantry -
Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 9 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Libya to Alexandria 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Syria 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 3 transports moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Northern Italy 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Northern Italy Combat - Italians Battle in Northern Italy Italians attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 Flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Northern Italy, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Northern Italy 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Northern Italy Italians win, taking Northern Italy from Germans with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Syria Italians attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry French defend with 1 Flag; Russians defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Syria, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Syria, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Syria Italians roll dice for 1 artillery in Syria, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Syria, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 artillery in Syria, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Syria, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Italians lost in Syria French win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7 Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy Place Units - Italians 3 infantry placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 13 PUs; end with 22 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
French regular : 1.00 Italians regular : -1.50 Germans regular : 0.67
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