sorry about not using the correct Marti. My brain is too full today, will try tomorrow.
Merry Christmas!
Elche(x) v Gamerman01 Classic no tech Russia restricted
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Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 aaGun, 3 armour and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Japan Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from Japan Sea Zone to French Indo China Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 bomber moved from East Indies to French Indo China 1 armour moved from Manchuria to French Indo China 2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to Hawaii Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from Hawaii Sea Zone to North Australia Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from North Australia Sea Zone to Australia Japanese take Australia from British 3 fighters moved from Manchuria to French Indo China Combat - Japanese Battle in French Indo China Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 infantry in French Indo China, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3,00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in French Indo China, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in French Indo China 1 infantry owned by the British lost in French Indo China Japanese win, taking French Indo China from British with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 3 fighters moved from French Indo China to Manchuria 1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Manchuria to China 1 submarine moved from West Panama Sea Zone to South Argentina Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from Hawaii Sea Zone to North Australia Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 3 armour placed in Manchuria 1 aaGun and 4 infantry placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@elche said in Elche(x) v Gamerman01 Classic no tech Russia restricted:
Sorry, but you cannot withdraw with the sub because I withdraw my fig and you win the battle.
Battle in West Africa Sea Zone
Germans attack with 1 fighter
Americans defend with 1 submarine
Germans roll dice for 1 fighter in West Africa Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
1 fighter owned by the Germans retreatedThis is according to Triple A. kwas knows the rules pretty well and we’ve been playing that you withdraw before attacker choosed whether to press the attack.
I can’t find it in the rulebook, on page 19 it seems very unclear to me when exactly the attacker decision to retreat is. If it’s last, after subs withdraw, then I am correct.I’ll see what kwas cites, first.
It doesn’t matter in this situation because the sub is going there on US turn anyway, so I can proceed without knowing the answer yet.
Thank you for the move, I am really enjoying my games of Classic, so thank you for asking about it for almost a year, now.
I will be good and confused back on G40. You can even unload infantry to 2 different territories from one transport, in NCM only, in this version. So many differences.
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I found in the FAQ that a player can’t use more pieces than are in the box. So only 4 IC’s can be built together by both sides, and no power can have bombers in more than 3 places, carriers in more than 2, etc.
Of course Triple A isn’t programmed to do this (I mean, I’m not surprised at all).
Does anyone play with this rule that is in the official FAQ? I’m asking kwas also.
If you guys don’t know, we can ask krieghund or someone (not sure if this was before his time)This would introduce a LOT of extra strategies to the game!!
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You’ve sucked me into a whole new arena. 🥸😇😊🏈
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@gamerman01 said in Elche(x) v Gamerman01 Classic no tech Russia restricted:
@elche said in Elche(x) v Gamerman01 Classic no tech Russia restricted:
Sorry, but you cannot withdraw with the sub because I withdraw my fig and you win the battle.
This is only according to Triple A, which is often wrong.
Rulebook, on page 19 is not undeniably clear when exactly the attacker decision to retreat is. If it’s last, then it is after subs withdraw in step #7 and I would actually be correct.
I just wanted to be clear on what the rule is supposed to be so I can play it correctly in the future.
I also see from the FAQ that subs CAN withdraw to the zone the attacker came from (if the attacker emptied it out), thus blocking the attacker’s retreat to that zone. CRAZY! -
No, it is clear. I didn’t see this.
#7 Submarines withdraw
#8A Repeat above steps 2 to 7 until…
A. Attacker Withdraws - The Retreat Option - - Special Privilege of the Attacker: the attacker can retreat by stopping combat and moving ALL attacking units in the battle BACK to ONE adjacent friendly or unoccupied sea zone…I typed it exactly as it is in the rulebook, the emphasis including all caps are NOT mine
Thank you for the discussion, now another rule is firm in our minds.
Recap:
Defending sub that is missed by air may withdraw to any adjacent unoccupied zone. This means attacking a sub with air can actually hurt the attacker, and could potentially hurt them BIG TIME -
Will move soon. All this rules discussion is not a game stoppage.
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Thank you for checking the rules.
I have another question. It is possible to do a ncm in cm phase to block ships and as example an attacked can not retreat to this sz , or to capture a sub if you block all sz to retreat ? -
Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 2 infantry moved from South Europe to Central Mediteranean Sea Zone 1 battleship, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from Central Mediteranean Sea Zone to Black Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Black Sea Zone to Caucasus Germans take Caucasus from Russians 2 infantry moved from East Europe to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from East Europe to Ukraine S.S.R. 2 fighters moved from West Europe to Ukraine S.S.R. 2 fighters moved from East Europe to Ukraine S.S.R. Combat - Germans Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans attack with 4 fighters and 3 infantry Russians defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 4 fighters and 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 4/7 hits, 2,50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 4 fighters and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 aaGun and 5 infantry moved from West Europe to South Europe 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to South Europe 1 infantry moved from Libya to Anglo Sudan Egypt 3 fighters moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Europe 9 infantry moved from Germany to East Europe 1 fighter moved from East Europe to Germany Place Units - Germans 3 infantry placed in South Europe 8 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -0,67 Germans regular : 1,50 -
@elche said in Elche(x) v Gamerman01 Classic no tech Russia restricted:
Thank you for checking the rules.
Thanks for the thanks!!
I have another question. It is possible to do a ncm in cm phase to block ships
I’m very sure that the answer is no
and as example an attacked can not retreat to this sz , or to capture a sub if you block all sz to retreat ?
I’m sorry, I don’t understand this part of the question.
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Forget the word sub after attacked.
But I think so too.Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 armour, 1 fighter and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Japanese 3 armour, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from China to Sinkiang Japanese take Sinkiang from Americans 4 infantry moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone 4 infantry and 2 transports moved from Japan Sea Zone to French Indo China Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from Japan Sea Zone to French Indo China Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 battleship moved from North Australia Sea Zone to French Indo China Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from North Australia Sea Zone to French Indo China Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from North Australia Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 infantry moved from Australia to North Australia Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from North Australia Sea Zone to Solomon Islands Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Solomon Islands to Solomon Islands Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from Solomon Islands Sea Zone to New Zealand Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from New Zealand Sea Zone to New Zealand Japanese take New Zealand from British Combat - Japanese Battle in French Indo China Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 4 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships in French Indo China, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in French Indo China, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in French Indo China Japanese win, taking French Indo China from British with 2 fighters and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Yakut S.S.R. Japanese attack with 3 armour, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 infantry Americans defend with 1 fighter; Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 1 fighter and 6 infantry Russians roll AA dice in Yakut S.S.R. : 0/4 hits, 0,67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 3 armour, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 5/9 hits, 4,00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 6 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 4/8 hits, 3,33 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 armour owned by the Japanese lost in Yakut S.S.R. 5 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Yakut S.S.R. Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber and 3 fighters in Yakut S.S.R., round 3 : 5/5 hits, 2,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Japanese lost in Yakut S.S.R. 1 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 fighter owned by the Russians and 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in Yakut S.S.R. Japanese win, taking Yakut S.S.R. from Russians with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14 Casualties for Japanese: 2 armour, 1 fighter and 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 fighter and 6 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter Non Combat Move - Japanese 2 fighters moved from French Indo China to French Indo China Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Manchuria 1 bomber moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Manchuria 1 carrier moved from Japan Sea Zone to French Indo China Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 1 armour and 2 infantry placed in Manchuria 1 fighter and 3 infantry placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : 3,00 Russians regular : -0,00 Russians AA : -0,67 British regular : -0,33 -
@elche said in Elche(x) v Gamerman01 Classic no tech Russia restricted:
Forget the word sub after attacked.
But I think so too.OK my good friend, I can tell there’s a really good question in there but I still don’t know what you mean. Can you try again?
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You’re making me do weird things. So a good game!
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Wasnt a good question because I need ncm too.
For example: There is 1 german sub in the Baltic sea, I ask for moving a ship to ihe North sea to capture the german sub and attack the sub with planes. -
Yes, a very good game for me too.
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 3 armour and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 6 armour and 2 fighters moved from East Europe to West Europe 1 fighter and 8 infantry moved from South Europe to West Europe 1 fighter and 8 infantry moved from Germany to West Europe 1 infantry moved from Anglo Sudan Egypt to Kenya-Rhodesia Germans take Kenya-Rhodesia from British 1 battleship, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from Black Sea Zone to Central Mediteranean Sea Zone Combat - Germans Battle in Central Mediteranean Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 submarine and 1 transport Americans defend with 1 submarine Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Central Mediteranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 transport in Central Mediteranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in Central Mediteranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in Central Mediteranean Sea Zone Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine Battle in West Europe Germans attack with 6 armour, 4 fighters and 16 infantry British defend with 2 armour and 12 infantry; Americans defend with 2 fighters and 8 infantry Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 4 fighters and 16 infantry in West Europe, round 2 : 7/26 hits, 7,67 expected hits British roll dice for 2 armour, 2 fighters and 20 infantry in West Europe, round 2 : 8/24 hits, 8,67 expected hits 8 infantry owned by the Germans lost in West Europe 7 infantry owned by the Americans lost in West Europe Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 4 fighters and 8 infantry in West Europe, round 3 : 12/18 hits, 6,33 expected hits British roll dice for 2 armour, 2 fighters and 13 infantry in West Europe, round 3 : 7/17 hits, 6,33 expected hits 7 infantry owned by the Germans lost in West Europe 1 infantry owned by the Americans and 11 infantry owned by the British lost in West Europe Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 4 fighters and 1 infantry in West Europe, round 4 : 6/11 hits, 5,17 expected hits British roll dice for 2 armour, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in West Europe, round 4 : 4/5 hits, 2,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 3 armour owned by the Germans lost in West Europe 2 fighters owned by the Americans, 1 infantry owned by the British and 2 armour owned by the British lost in West Europe Germans win, taking West Europe from British with 3 armour and 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 31 Casualties for Germans: 3 armour and 16 infantry Casualties for Americans: 2 fighters and 8 infantry Casualties for British: 2 armour and 12 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 4 fighters moved from West Europe to East Europe Place Units - Germans 3 armour and 5 infantry placed in Germany 1 infantry placed in South Europe 1 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -0,33 Germans regular : 5,83 British regular : 1,67 -
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Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 2 armour, 1 factory, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to India Japanese take India from British 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Sinkiang 2 fighters moved from Manchuria to Sinkiang 1 armour moved from Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R. 2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R. 1 bomber moved from Manchuria to Persia 2 battleships moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Red Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to French Indo China Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Red Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Red Sea Zone to Persia 2 fighters moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Persia Combat - Japanese Battle in Persia Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry Americans defend with 2 infantry; Russians defend with 1 armour Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships in Persia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Persia, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2,00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 armour and 2 infantry in Persia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Persia 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Persia Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Persia, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits British roll dice for 1 armour in Persia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Persia Japanese win, taking Persia from British with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 armour Battle in Yakut S.S.R. Japanese attack with 1 armour and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 aaGun and 1 armour Japanese roll dice for 1 armour and 2 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Yakut S.S.R. Japanese win, taking Yakut S.S.R. from Russians with 1 armour and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for Russians: 1 armour Battle in Sinkiang Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Sinkiang, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Sinkiang, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Sinkiang 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Sinkiang Japanese win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 2 fighters moved from Sinkiang to French Indo China 2 carriers and 1 transport moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Red Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Persia to Red Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Persia to French Indo China 2 infantry moved from New Zealand to New Zealand Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from New Zealand Sea Zone to Hawaii Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Hawaii Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Japan to Hawaiian Islands 1 submarine moved from South Argentina Sea Zone to North Australia Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 1 factory placed in French Indo China 2 armour and 1 infantry placed in Manchuria 1 transport placed in Japan Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 39 PUs; end with 40 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0,67 Japanese regular : -1,17 Russians regular : -0,33 British regular : -0,33
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