Axis & Allies Team Cup 2024 Discussion and Planning

[djensen]

@DoManMacgee I forked it. The discussion, that is.

[DoManMacgee]

@djensen Thanks man. If you ever want to try pitching your idea to Renegade and need a point of contact DM me. I have contact info for their Organized Play director and you (as the owner of this site) probably have a much better shot of getting a response back from him than I did as just some random guy on the internet.

As for your plan here, since I never properly replied to it:

• Overall, I like this idea a lot, so don’t take any of my remarks below the wrong way of course.

• Have you considered forcing 1v1 instead of teams to increase the overall participant count? A headline saying “An Axis and Allies League with over 50 participants” would probably look better to onlookers/outsiders than saying “An Axis and Allies League with over 20 teams”.

• Online play itself is great since we already have the PBEM sub-forum on here with a community from all over the world, but it may also be good to have local events (such as the ones hosted by the people you CC’d + other known tournament organizers like @Young-Grasshopper, Smorey Swamp, etc.). I understand that results from live tournaments wouldn’t quite vibe with the idea of a “League” (where folks play one another on a regularly scheduled basis similar to a “regular season” in most sports), but encouraging the community to actually attend tournaments would do wonders for the franchise as a whole. There would definitely be some way to make it work out, like your idea of “bonus league points” relative to how well you performed at the actual tournament.

• If Greg would give his blessing, Gen Con would probably be an ideal location for a Final Tournament with the top X (4 or 8, probably depending on how many people actually sign up for this hypothetical league) Players competing for the championship. Renegade already chose Gen Con as the location of the inaugural World Championship last year, so keeping that tradition going may be beneficial. However, depending on the geographic location of the people who actually make the finals, it might also make sense to hold the finals in a location that’s agreeable to everyone (for example, if 2 West Coast guys + 2 Canadians from Vancouver/BC make the finals, it’d probably be smarter to keep the finals in somewhere like Washington State so travel expenses don’t get out of control).

Really liking your idea though. Sorry it took me a bit to formulate my thoughts on things and also sorry for bogging down your thread with my stuff yesterday.

[SuperbattleshipYamato]

@djensen

I’m sorry I can’t help setting it up, but know that I support your idea and will participate.

[Shadowfox63]

Hi Dave,

this sounds like a great initiative. I’ve created a account here to follow the progress. Considering the geographic spread of the players, the time commitment, and the reliability of people in these modern times, I think it’d be best to do teams of 1 - 3 and certainly online.

Best Regards from Germany

[djensen]

@DoManMacgee said in Axis & Allies Cup 2024 Discussion and Planning:

Have you considered forcing 1v1 instead of teams to increase the overall participant count?

One of the points was for this to be team based. Team based and many different games.

[Nuts]

@djensen I love this idea! But as I have said, there are some holes in this. Many players have house rules not everyone agrees with. If this is the case, some (newer) players who have only played the base game could pair with players who play heavily modded versions, like @The-Captain . Also, can we make 1941 not allowed? It’s the most basic and unfun of any game. That’s my two cents.

[SuperbattleshipYamato]

@Nuts

I like 1941. It’s basic, sure, and I rarely play it now, but that’s what I started playing the entire franchise on, and I wanna use that knowledge and experience.

[Nuts]

@SuperbattleshipYamato Yeah. To be honest, I have really only played it once.

[DoManMacgee]

@djensen If teams are something you’re unwilling to negotiate on, what is your provisional list of “allowed” games? There are many A&A games out there which range in both “official-ness” (i.e. “mainline” games like Classic Vs. “spin-offs” like D-Day) and overall value and perceived balance (i.e. most users on here prefer G40, balance notwithstanding, while games like Zombies and 41 are pretty much universally derided).

[Nuts]

@DoManMacgee I agree with you. Some consider Global War 1936-45 an A&A game. I’m not saying that it can’t be considered one, but if we’re only using mainline games, does it count? After all, it’s not manufactured by Hasbro, who holds the rights, or Renegade, who manufactures the game currently.

[djensen]

@DoManMacgee Oh yeah, I didn’t post my thoughts on games:

• 1942 SE
• Global
• Anniversary
• Guadalcanal
• North Africa
• D-Day or Bulge
• Classic
• Definitely Zombies, c’mon, let’s have some fun! (just kidding)

[Nuts]

@djensen Why are we not including both d-day and bulge? I suppose it would make sense as many only have d-day and bulge deserves love.

[SuperbattleshipYamato]

@djensen

Why only D-Day or Bulge? Why not both?

[Nuts]

@SuperbattleshipYamato It’s just the way I saw @djensen put it on his list.

[SuperbattleshipYamato]

@Nuts

Sorry, I didn’t see your question before asking mine.

[DoManMacgee]

@djensen swap out zombies for revised (since you had zombies there as a joke anyway)? IMO it’s distinct enough from 42SE to warrant consideration

[djensen]

@DoManMacgee Revised is tempting. Maybe we can find old copies of ABattleMap to play it! Ah, the memories.

[djensen]

@SuperbattleshipYamato said in Axis & Allies Team Cup 2024 Discussion and Planning:

@djensen

Why only D-Day or Bulge? Why not both?

It feels like too many games already. I even forgot 1914 and nobody noticed. But maybe we should try to do them all.

I’m also thinking this is a every-other-year type thing.

[SuperbattleshipYamato]

@djensen

In my very much egocentric perspective, here are the game I would choose if we’re narrowing them down (note it’s only the ones I’ve played before):

Global 1940
1942 Second Edition
1941
1914
D-Day

But yeah, the best scenario is all of them. Every 2 years sounds good.

[Nuts]

@djensen I think it might make sense to boil down bulge, d-day, and Guadalcanal into one round, letting players choose, as not all players have all three. Here’s my list.

1. G40
2. 42SE
3. Anniversary
4. North Africa
5. Classic
6. Guadalcanal, D-day, Bulge
7. Revised