I feel that a terrible opener for Germany in the Atlantic is worse than a terrible opener for Germany on the east front because this means the western allies are one or even two turns ahead of where they should be. this translates to a much larger western army or armies available to save Russia or kill Germany (Whatever looks more effective). In effect you don’t only have IPC’s that are better spent as the western allies against Germany, but you have them a lot sooner than they otherwise should be.
TGC (CP) vs Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob, with RR rule, Game 3
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Not sure why but the French transports moved into the western English Channel (don’t remember the name) didn’t save on your file, so I edited that.
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Game History
Round: 19 Puchase Units - British British buy 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 9 infantry and 1 tank; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 10 units repaired. Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_True from Constantinople: 35 artilleries and 55 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Constantinople: 35 artilleries and 55 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by French from SZ 15: 1 transport EDIT: Adding units owned by French to SZ 8: 1 transport EDIT: Removing units owned by French from SZ 15: 1 transport EDIT: Adding units owned by French to SZ 8: 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 artillery, 13 infantry and 1 tank moved from Ankara to Constantinople 1 artillery, 5 fighters, 7 infantry and 1 tank moved from Mesopotamia to Ankara 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 tank moved from Persia to Mesopotamia 1 artillery, 9 infantry and 1 tank moved from India to Persia 1 cruiser moved from SZ 6 to SZ 8 1 battleship moved from SZ 9 to SZ 8 1 battleship moved from SZ 15 to SZ 8 2 infantry moved from Yorkshire to SZ 8 1 fighter moved from Ankara to Constantinople Combat - British British creates battle in territory Albania Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Albania: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Battle in Albania AustroHungarians defend with 3 infantry and 1 tank Battle in Constantinople British attack with 36 artilleries, 1 fighter, 68 infantry and 11 tanks; Italians loiter and taunt; French loiter and taunt AustroHungarians defend with 6 artilleries and 90 infantry; Ottomans defend with 8 artilleries, 1 factory, 9 infantry and 1 port British roll dice for 36 artilleries, 1 fighter, 68 infantry and 11 tanks in Constantinople, round 2 : 61/116 hits, 56.67 expected hits Ottomans roll dice for 14 artilleries and 99 infantry in Constantinople, round 2 : 58/113 hits, 56.50 expected hits Units damaged: 11 tanks owned by the British 61 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians and 47 infantry owned by the British lost in Constantinople Ottomans and British reach a stalemate AustroHungarians win with 3 infantry and 1 tank remaining. Battle score for attacker is 42 Casualties for British: 47 infantry Casualties for AustroHungarians: 61 infantry Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Ottomans from Constantinople: 8 artilleries and 9 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by AustroHungarians to Constantinople: 44 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing ownership of Constantinople from Ottomans to AustroHungarians EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing ownership of Constantinople from AustroHungarians to Ottomans EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Place Units - British 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 9 infantry and 1 tank placed in India Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from India: 2 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by British to India: 2 fighters EDIT: Removing units owned by British from India: 3 artilleries EDIT: Adding units owned by British to India: 3 artilleries EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - British British collect 49 PUs; end with 49 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 19 Puchase Units - Ottomans Ottomans buy nothing; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Turn Complete - Ottomans Ottomans collect 0 PUs; end with 0 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 19 Combat Move - Italians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Constantinople: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from SZ 15 to SZ 8 Combat Move - Italians Turn Complete - ItaliansCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 19 Puchase Units - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Constantinople: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Americans buy 3 battleships and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from SZ 8: 1 cruiser EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to SZ 7: 1 cruiser EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from United States of America to SZ 1 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 1 to SZ 3 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from SZ 3 to Ireland 1 transport moved from SZ 15 to SZ 8 2 infantry moved from Picardy to SZ 8 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 8 to SZ 15 2 infantry moved from SZ 15 to Bordeaux 1 artillery moved from Spain to Bordeaux 2 transports moved from SZ 15 to SZ 8 Combat - Americans Americans creates battle in territory Spain Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Spain: 1 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Bordeaux: 1 artillery and 2 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Battle in Bordeaux AustroHungarians defend with 5 artilleries, 1 fighter, 9 infantry and 2 tanks Battle in Spain AustroHungarians defend with 5 artilleries, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 tank Combat Move - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Spain: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Bordeaux: 1 artillery and 2 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Place Units - Americans 3 battleships and 1 submarine placed in SZ 1 Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 20 PUs; end with 22 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 20 Puchase Units - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians buy 4 fighters and 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - AustroHungarians 3 units repaired. Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by AustroHungarians from Spain: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_True to Spain: 1 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by AustroHungarians from Spain: 5 artilleries, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tank EDIT: Adding units owned by AustroHungarians to Bordeaux: 5 artilleries, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tank EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 artillery moved from Romania to Bulgaria 8 fighters and 8 infantry moved from Serbia to Bulgaria 1 artillery moved from Trieste to Albania 1 infantry moved from Albania to Serbia 18 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste 4 infantry moved from Trieste to SZ 18 10 infantry moved from Trieste to Serbia 4 infantry and 2 transports moved from SZ 18 to SZ 19 2 infantry moved from SZ 19 to Trans-Jordan Ottomans take Trans-Jordan from British 2 infantry moved from SZ 19 to Egypt AustroHungarians take Egypt from British 1 fighter moved from Bordeaux to Marseilles 1 fighter and 4 infantry moved from Marseilles to Burgundy 1 infantry moved from Piedmont to Burgundy 1 infantry moved from Switzerland to Burgundy 6 artilleries and 45 infantry moved from Constantinople to Bulgaria 2 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria 1 infantry moved from Albania to Serbia Combat - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians creates battle in territory Bordeaux Battle in Bordeaux AustroHungarians attack with 10 artilleries, 1 fighter, 13 infantry and 3 tanks French defend with 1 infantry; Americans defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry AustroHungarians roll dice for 10 artilleries, 1 fighter, 13 infantry and 3 tanks in Bordeaux, round 2 : 16/27 hits, 14.00 expected hits French roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Bordeaux, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits Units damaged: 3 tanks owned by the AustroHungarians 2 infantry owned by the Americans, 1 artillery owned by the Americans and 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Bordeaux AustroHungarians win, taking Bordeaux from French with 10 artilleries, 1 fighter, 13 infantry and 3 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13 Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Casualties for French: 1 infantry Battle in Albania AustroHungarians attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tank British defend with 1 infantry AustroHungarians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tank in Albania, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Albania, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Albania AustroHungarians win, taking Albania from British with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tank remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Burgundy AustroHungarians attack with 1 fighter and 6 infantry French defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry AustroHungarians roll dice for 1 fighter and 6 infantry in Burgundy, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 2.33 expected hits French roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Burgundy, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians and 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Burgundy French and AustroHungarians reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for AustroHungarians: 1 infantry Casualties for French: 1 infantry Combat Move - AustroHungarians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_True from Spain: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by AustroHungarians to Spain: 1 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_True from Constantinople: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by AustroHungarians to Constantinople: 1 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by AustroHungarians from Bulgaria: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by AustroHungarians to Constantinople: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Place Units - AustroHungarians 4 fighters and 12 infantry placed in Vienna Turn Complete - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians collect 65 PUs; end with 66 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
French regular : 0.50 AustroHungarians regular : 0.33 British regular : -0.50 -
Game History
Round: 20 Puchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 fighter and 15 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 unit repaired. Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these British owned units to: tank = 1 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 11 artilleries and 22 infantry moved from Sevastopol to Persia 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Sevastopol 1 infantry moved from Romania to Sevastopol 2 infantry moved from Galicia to Ukraine 2 fighters moved from Galicia to Ukraine 2 infantry moved from Silesia to Galicia 3 battleships moved from SZ 14 to SZ 16 21 artilleries, 3 fighters, 125 infantry and 5 tanks moved from Lorraine to Burgundy 1 fighter moved from Ruhr to Alsace 10 infantry moved from Hanover to Munich 10 infantry moved from Ruhr to Belgium 1 infantry moved from Ruhr to Belgium 1 fighter moved from Alsace to Munich 1 fighter moved from Berlin to Munich 2 infantry moved from Berlin to Kiel 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Berlin to Silesia 2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 tank moved from Berlin to Hanover Combat - Germans Battle in Burgundy Germans attack with 21 artilleries, 3 fighters, 125 infantry and 5 tanks; AustroHungarians loiter and taunt French defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 21 artilleries, 3 fighters, 125 infantry and 5 tanks in Burgundy, round 2 : 70/154 hits, 61.83 expected hits French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Burgundy, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits Units damaged: 2 tanks owned by the Germans 1 infantry owned by the French and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Burgundy Germans win, taking Burgundy from French with 21 artilleries, 3 fighters, 125 infantry and 5 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in Persia Germans attack with 11 artilleries and 22 infantry British defend with 1 artillery, 9 infantry and 1 tank Germans roll dice for 11 artilleries and 22 infantry in Persia, round 2 : 15/33 hits, 14.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery, 9 infantry and 1 tank in Persia, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 5.17 expected hits 4 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 tank owned by the British, 1 artillery owned by the British and 9 infantry owned by the British lost in Persia Germans win, taking Persia from British with 11 artilleries and 18 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 25 Casualties for Germans: 4 infantry Casualties for British: 1 artillery, 9 infantry and 1 tank Battle in Belgium Germans attack with 11 infantry French defend with 2 artilleries and 5 infantry Germans roll dice for 11 infantry in Belgium, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 3.67 expected hits French roll dice for 2 artilleries and 5 infantry in Belgium, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 3.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 4 infantry owned by the French lost in Belgium French and Germans reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for French: 4 infantry Combat Move - Germans Place Units - Germans 1 fighter and 15 infantry placed in Berlin Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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G20 edit.tsvg I put the two French pieces in Constantinople as neutrals for you. If you want to attack with them, you’ll have to turn them back into French.
Also, I was reviewing your edits and I feel like you added back in a TON of extra Austrians. So I fixed it but I tracked that you got 61 kills in the Constantinople fight and so adjusted the Austrians down to 46 and then realized it actually needed to be 44.
Anyway, should be good with this file: G20 edit.tsvg
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Yes, I forgot to remove the Ottomans initially.
A little confuse though. So did the Austro-Hungarians take 44 or 46 hits? I counted 44. Thank you!
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@SuperbattleshipYamato akkk, you’re right and thank you. Here is the final edit: G20 final edit lol.tsvg
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Game History
Round: 20 Puchase Units - French French buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - French Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by French from Belgium: 2 artilleries and 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 infantry moved from Picardy to Lorraine French take Lorraine from Germans 9 artilleries, 1 fighter and 154 infantry moved from Picardy to Paris 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 8 to SZ 14 2 infantry moved from Picardy to Paris Combat - French Combat Move - French Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by French to Belgium: 2 artilleries and 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Place Units - French 7 infantry placed in Paris Turn Complete - French French collect 19 PUs; end with 19 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 20 Puchase Units - British British buy 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 9 infantry and 1 tank; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 11 units repaired. Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_True from Constantinople: 2 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by French to Constantinople: 2 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from India: 3 fighters EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Arabia: 3 fighters EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 infantry moved from SZ 14 to Portugal British take Portugal from AustroHungarians 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tank moved from Mesopotamia to Syrian Desert 1 infantry moved from Mesopotamia to Arabia 11 tanks moved from Constantinople to Ankara 10 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara 3 artilleries moved from Constantinople to Ankara 1 artillery moved from Constantinople to Ankara 2 artilleries moved from Constantinople to Ankara 1 artillery moved from Constantinople to Ankara 9 artilleries moved from Constantinople to Ankara 1 artillery moved from Ankara to Syrian Desert Combat - British British creates battle in territory Constantinople Battle in Constantinople Italians loiter and taunt; British attack with 10 artilleries, 1 fighter and 11 infantry; French loiter and taunt AustroHungarians defend with 2 infantry; Ottomans defend with 1 factory and 1 port British roll dice for 10 artilleries, 1 fighter and 11 infantry in Constantinople, round 2 : 11/22 hits, 12.33 expected hits Ottomans roll dice for 2 infantry in Constantinople, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Constantinople British captures 0PUs while taking Ottomans capital British win, taking Constantinople from Ottomans with 10 artilleries, 1 fighter and 10 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for AustroHungarians: 2 infantry Combat Move - British 1 infantry moved from Ankara to Syrian Desert 1 infantry moved from Ankara to Syrian Desert 1 infantry moved from Ankara to Syrian Desert Place Units - British 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 9 infantry and 1 tank placed in India Turn Complete - British British collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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I’m not conceding yet, but I’ll admit it looks like I’m losing.
What did I do wrong? What should I have done instead? Thank you!
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Specifically, the CP navy kept America out of the war for far too long. USA really needs to move against Spain on turn 4 in my opinion. I go out of my way with the French navy (see the French video) to make sure the CP navy never have a chance and I recommend doing the same. Those few ships can be just awful for the Entente.
Generally, I think you could stand to be a bit less aggressive with both France and Italy. They seem strong in the beginning but I noticed you traded a lot of territories for pieces that were worth more than what you gained. I sometimes send two infantries against a single defending infantry but generally let the enemy have their territories unless I’m really gonna make a move against them. And France and Italy just need to bulk up and not fight (okay, France can be a LITTLE bit aggressive on like turn 3/4 but be very careful). Bulk up and wait for the Americans to show up and reinforce their positions. And everyone just waits until the UK has bashed in the Ottomans You played UK just fine I think. Get in that capital sooner maybe - eat the cost so long as the counter attack wont kill you. (Though I accept that it was probably not realistic to do so until you did in this game - maybe a few more infantries instead of artilleries? That would help preserve some IPC if the CP counterattack in the capital).
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@SuperbattleshipYamato said in TGC (CP) vs Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob, with RR rule, Game 3:
I’m not conceding yet, but I’ll admit it looks like I’m losing.
What did I do wrong? What should I have done instead? Thank you!
Also, there are no Ottomans so you’re clear for Italy/USA.
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Game History
Round: 20 Combat Move - Italians 1 battleship moved from SZ 8 to SZ 14 1 cruiser moved from SZ 7 to SZ 14 Combat Move - Italians Turn Complete - ItaliansCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 20 Puchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 artillery and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 6 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 2 transports moved from SZ 8 to SZ 2 1 transport moved from SZ 15 to SZ 2 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ireland to SZ 3 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 3 to SZ 7 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from SZ 7 to Spain 3 battleships moved from SZ 1 to SZ 14 1 submarine moved from SZ 1 to SZ 14 Combat - Americans Battle in Spain Americans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry AustroHungarians defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Spain, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits AustroHungarians roll dice for 1 infantry in Spain, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits AustroHungarians and Americans reach a stalemate Combat Move - Americans Place Units - Americans 1 artillery and 4 infantry placed in United States of America Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 20 PUs; end with 26 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -1.33 AustroHungarians regular : -0.50
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