[Game 8] TGC (Entente) v DoManMacgee (CP) -oob, no bid, RR

[The_Good_Captain]

@domanmacgee

Game History

Round: 7

    Puchase Units - Russians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Moscow: 3 fighters
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Moscow: 14 artilleries and 13 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_True to Moscow: 14 artilleries and 13 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Tatarstan: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_True to Tatarstan: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Russians buy 1 artillery and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Place Units - Russians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_True from Moscow: 14 artilleries and 13 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Moscow: 14 artilleries and 13 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_True from Tatarstan: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Tatarstan: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Moscow
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Moscow: 3 fighters
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 5 PUs; end with 5 PUs

R7.tsvg The Russians offer an armistice.

[DoManMacgee]

@the_good_captain I need to sleep on it/think about how the rest of the game is going to play out from here. Will get back to you in the morning.

[The_Good_Captain]

@domanmacgee not that it should matter in your decision making process but this is sort of a game theory moment / point of experimentation for me. I have wondered about a moment like this where it seems vague as to which is more a benefit. In other words, this may be a blunder on the part of the Entente - or not. I don’t know - I don’t which decision I won’t like more. I take solace in not having to make it beyond what I’ve already done.

[DoManMacgee]

@the_good_captain I think due to the relative lack of CP forces in Russia compared to their Russian counterparts, I am going to need to accept armistice and see if the German stack can be put to work elsewhere on the map. Based on the calcs I’ve run it’s going to take another 4 sounds or so to kill off the Moscow stack (barring good dice) and the game might outright be over by then, long before I have time to put the 12 remaining Russian IPCs (Moscow/Karelia/Finland/Tartarstan/Kazakhstan) to any use.

Will post G7 later.

[DoManMacgee]

@the_good_captain

Game History

Round: 7

    Puchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Livonia to Belarus
        12 artilleries and 17 infantry moved from Moscow to Ukraine
        1 fighter moved from Galicia to Munich
        2 fighters moved from Berlin to Munich
        3 infantry moved from Hanover to Munich
        2 infantry moved from Hanover to Ruhr
        15 artilleries, 4 fighters and 25 infantry moved from Alsace to Ruhr
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Silesia to Hanover
        2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Berlin to Hanover
        1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Galicia to Romania

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Munich
            Germans attack with 3 fighters and 3 infantry
            French defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 3 fighters and 3 infantry in Munich, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 infantry in Munich, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the French lost in Munich
            Germans win, taking Munich from French with 3 fighters and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for French: 1 infantry

    Combat Move - Germans

    Place Units - Germans
        2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 6 infantry placed in Berlin

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 38 PUs; end with 38 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : -0.50
Germans regular : 2.00

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I swapped out 1 Ottoman INF in Tartarstan and 1 AH INF in Moscow for “Neutral Central” counterparts in order to allow the rest of the CP units to move out. I also converted the remaining Russian territories to “Contested” control just so I/we can better measure the IPC/TUV counts going forward.

[The_Good_Captain]

@domanmacgee before I roll for UK turn, I’m going to exchange two inf for a fighter (purchase change) -saying this for completeness

[The_Good_Captain]

@domanmacgee

Game History

Round: 7

    Puchase Units - British
        British buy 1 artillery, 11 infantry and 1 tank; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        2 units repaired.
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        2 infantry moved from Arabia to Trans-Jordan
        1 infantry moved from Syrian Desert to Trans-Jordan
        1 transport moved from SZ 27 to SZ 29
        1 infantry and 1 tank moved from India to SZ 29
        1 infantry and 1 tank moved from SZ 29 to Mesopotamia
        11 infantry moved from India to Persia
        2 infantry moved from Syrian Desert to Trans-Jordan
        3 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Syrian Desert to Mesopotamia
        1 transport moved from SZ 17 to SZ 16
        1 transport moved from SZ 14 to SZ 16
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Spanish Morocco to SZ 16
        2 infantry moved from Algeria to SZ 16
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from SZ 16 to SZ 17
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from SZ 17 to Egypt
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Picardy to Lorraine
        2 infantry moved from SZ 9 to Picardy
        2 infantry moved from London to SZ 9
        3 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 tank moved from Persia to Mesopotamia
        1 infantry moved from Persia to Sevastopol
              British take Sevastopol from Ottomans

    Combat - British
        Battle in Mesopotamia
            British attack with 15 artilleries, 1 fighter, 23 infantry and 4 tanks
            Neutral_Central defend with 2 infantry
                British roll dice for 15 artilleries, 1 fighter, 23 infantry and 4 tanks in Mesopotamia, round 2 : 17/43 hits, 21.83 expected hits
                Ottomans roll dice for 2 infantry in Mesopotamia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 tank owned by the British
                2 infantry owned by the Neutral_Central lost in Mesopotamia
            British win, taking Mesopotamia from Ottomans with 15 artilleries, 1 fighter, 23 infantry and 4 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Neutral_Central: 2 infantry

    Combat Move - British
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these British owned units to: tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Place Units - British
        1 artillery, 11 infantry and 1 tank placed in India

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 46 PUs; end with 46 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Ottomans regular : 0.00
British regular : -4.83

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[DoManMacgee]

@the_good_captain Remind me. Are the Ottomans in Tartarstan allowed to attack into Sevastopol or do I have to move them to friendly ground (Ukraine) this turn?

[The_Good_Captain]

@domanmacgee they are free to attack. I was in the same boat as you and Krieghund cleared it up. Those shared territories are like little Cambodias. The CP can attack from them and never be attacked.

[The_Good_Captain]

@domanmacgee reference: https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/39306/revolution-question

[DoManMacgee]

@the_good_captain got it. I figured that was the answer but wanted to double check before committing to the turn.

[DoManMacgee]

@the_good_captain Game History

Round: 7

    Puchase Units - Ottomans
        Ottomans buy 2 artilleries and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Ottomans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        EDIT: 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Tatarstan to Sevastopol
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Serbia
        3 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from Smyrna to Ankara
        1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara

    Combat - Ottomans
        Battle in Sevastopol
            Ottomans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            British defend with 1 infantry and 1 port
                Ottomans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Sevastopol, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Sevastopol, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Ottomans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Sevastopol
            Ottomans win, taking Sevastopol from British with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Ottomans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Battle in Serbia
            Ottomans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            French defend with 1 infantry
                Ottomans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Serbia, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 infantry in Serbia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Ottomans lost in Serbia
            French and Ottomans reach a stalemate
            . Battle score for attacker is -3
            Casualties for Ottomans: 1 infantry

    Combat Move - Ottomans

    Place Units - Ottomans
        2 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Constantinople

    Turn Complete - Ottomans
        Ottomans collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : 0.50
Ottomans regular : -1.67
British regular : 0.50

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[The_Good_Captain]

@domanmacgee Italians rolled +2.6 on counterattack in Venice :/ casualty selection:

[DoManMacgee]

@the_good_captain 8 INF, 4 FTR, 5 ART

[The_Good_Captain]

@domanmacgee now the USA attacked and rolled +1.6…

[DoManMacgee]

@the_good_captain Lose all FTRs and ARTs

[The_Good_Captain]

@domanmacgee

Game History

Round: 7

    Puchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Piedmont to Venice
        4 infantry moved from Marseilles to Piedmont
        7 infantry and 1 tank moved from Spain to Marseilles
        1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from United States of America to SZ 1
        1 artillery, 7 infantry and 4 transports moved from SZ 1 to SZ 14
        1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from SZ 14 to Spain
        4 transports moved from SZ 14 to SZ 1

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Venice
            Italians loiter and taunt; Americans attack with 3 artilleries and 4 infantry
            AustroHungarians defend with 3 artilleries, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tanks
                Americans roll dice for 3 artilleries and 4 infantry in Venice, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 3.33 expected hits
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 3 artilleries, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tanks in Venice, round 2 : 2/9 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                2 fighters owned by the AustroHungarians, 3 artilleries owned by the AustroHungarians and 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Venice
            AustroHungarians and Americans reach a stalemate
            . Battle score for attacker is 18
            Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for AustroHungarians: 3 artilleries and 2 fighters

    Combat Move - Americans

    Place Units - Americans
        8 infantry placed in United States of America

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 24 PUs; end with 24 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 1.67
AustroHungarians regular : -1.67

USA7.tsvg

[DoManMacgee]

@the_good_captain Game History

Round: 8

    Puchase Units - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians buy 2 artilleries and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        3 units repaired.
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by AustroHungarians from Venice: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_Central to Venice: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        3 tanks moved from Venice to Trieste
        1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tank moved from Trieste to Albania
        2 artilleries, 7 infantry and 1 tank moved from Vienna to Trieste
        2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Moscow to Ukraine

    Combat - AustroHungarians
        Battle in Albania
            AustroHungarians attack with 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tank
            Italians defend with 1 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tank in Albania, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Albania, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 tank owned by the AustroHungarians
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Albania
            AustroHungarians win, taking Albania from Italians with 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tank remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians

    Place Units - AustroHungarians
        2 artilleries and 8 infantry placed in Vienna

    Turn Complete - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 0.50
AustroHungarians regular : -0.67

1914-game-8-ah8.tsvg

[The_Good_Captain]

@domanmacgee with Russia out of everything - you can just do a double turn

[DoManMacgee]

@the_good_captain I know. I just had to sleep on G8 to decide which direction to send the German stack. The AH turn was more set in stone.