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Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB
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I’m sometimes following the great maxime of attack is the best defence. ;)
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@trulpen India is falling on J4. This is not about a counterattack. Your forces are going to be wiped off the face of the map. He is not going to waste his precious land units on an attack against Yunnan. If that was his plan, he would have done a different J1 opener and saved a bunch of troops.
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:
@trulpen Pressuring FIC and Malaya? I am so confused.
At some time J needs to start focusing east. They can’t afford to just have their air-force stacked in FIC forever. There’s a mIC there. It’s extremely valuable territory for J.
If UK puts pressure on that specific territory, J has to account for it. It binds resources to the defence. Maybe.
Likely J will stack up with a lot of land units there as well, so this is more or less hypothetical, but let me put another perspective in here:
I’d rather have those 2 inf on the board than let J kill them off far too easily in Burma.
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If he attacked those Chinese units, he would lose 4 land units and 6 planes. Why would he do that? That would make him miss his prime objective of a J4 India crush.
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:
If he attacked those Chinese units, he would lose 4 land units and 6 planes. Why would he do that? That would make him miss his prime objective of a J4 India crush.
I fully agree.
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retreat what you can to India. retreat the rest to Burma. It won’t be an easy attack on Burma because he has no land units. He will lose planes to strafe off the soldiers. Or he will need to transport troops that would have been used on J4 for the India crush. Not the worst either way.
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If you can, have Egpytian planes in Persia to reinforce India if that makes sense on UK3.
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Actually East Persia is better to give you more flexibility.
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There is nothing you can do when Japan truly wants a J4 India crush, but you can make it a bit more costly, making him lose more planes.
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:
retreat what you can to India. retreat the rest to Burma. It won’t be an easy attack on Burma because he has no land units. He will lose planes to strafe off the soldiers. Or he will need to transport troops that would have been used on J4 for the India crush. Not the worst either way.
The chinese will take care of Burma if anything lands there.
I just noticed I made a horrible mistake regarding purchase. My plan was to buy a mIC in Persia. Unfortunately slipped my mind. That factory is key to our plans. I’d say much more important than the ac.
I’m therefore asking @AndrewAAGamer to allow a change of purchase. I’d like to exchange the ac for a mIC in Persia and 1 inf, 1 mech in S Africa.
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:
retreat what you can to India. retreat the rest to Burma. It won’t be an easy attack on Burma because he has no land units. He will lose planes to strafe off the soldiers. Or he will need to transport troops that would have been used on J4 for the India crush. Not the worst either way.
He has plenty of land units via amphibious attack.
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@trulpen yes, but the two land units used to attack Burma will die before they can attack India. That is a win for the Allies.
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@trulpen are you sure you want a mIC in Persia, that would be an attractive target for Japan to attack after the India crush. I haven’t played this skip-China plan before, but it gives him more room to focus on the Middle East and Russia if he so chooses.
I haven’t run the numbers though.
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Exactly my point. Anything that goes there will die and even allow UK landing air there if we care for it. We don’t need to protect the area with valuable units. Anything standing in Burma I’d say is dead, so that’s a loss for the Allies.
Of course, I do acknowledge that J is low on land in the vicinity. Any land disappearing from the final blow is a win for Allies. Might make it reasonable to put 1 inf there. I’ll mull over it while listening to your impressions.
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:
@trulpen are you sure you want a mIC in Persia, that would be an attractive target for Japan to attack after the India crush. I haven’t played this skip-China plan before, but it gives him more room to focus on the Middle East and Russia if he so chooses.
I haven’t run the numbers though.
I’m pretty sure. He’ll be very low on land. Can’t contest that mIC, I’m sure, especially with the UK-forces around. Has to take Italy into account, but I think we do have control in the region.
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Have to consider the placement of the fleet. An alternative is z79, keeping things awkward for J.
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Have no air to land on them though, so likely a bad idea.
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@trulpen Now I haven’t looked at the map but I have played Andrew and he completely ignored china and went for India. He controlled India and the DEI and the US spent the rest of the game trying to build carriers to match Japan. So maybe a little insight into his thinking.
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Thanks! This looks to be the case now. Which means we have to try and plan accordingly.
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: British round 2
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0
Game History
Round: 2 Combat Move - British 1 fighter moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to 96 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Shan State Combat - British British creates battle in territory 110 Sea Zone Battle in 96 Sea Zone British attack with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber Italians defend with 1 destroyer British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 96 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer in 96 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone British win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer Battle in Shan State British attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Japanese defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Shan State, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State British win, taking Shan State from Japanese with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British 1 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia British take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies 1 infantry moved from Persia to Eastern Persia British take Eastern Persia from Neutral_Allies 1 infantry moved from Persia to 80 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 2 cruisers and 2 destroyers moved from 80 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Tanganyika Territory 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 96 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt 1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan 1 artillery moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 battleship and 2 cruisers moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 3 aaGuns and 1 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom 2 fighters moved from Scotland to United Kingdom 2 mech_infantrys moved from India to Yunnan 1 mech_infantry moved from Eire to United Kingdom 1 aaGun moved from Burma to India 2 infantry moved from Burma to India 1 infantry moved from Burma to India 1 aaGun moved from Burma to India 1 battleship moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Burma to India 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shan State to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from Shan State to India 1 fighter moved from Shan State to IndiaCombat Hit Differential Summary :
British : -3,17 Italians : -0,67 Japanese : -0,33
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