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Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB
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Just in case I’ve done something crazy with Calcutta, please respond quickly so that I may change it before Andrew executes Italy.
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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 2
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 4 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 92 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands Combat - Americans Battle in 92 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 bomber Italians defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 92 Sea Zone Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Italians: 1 transport Battle in Caroline Islands Americans attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Japanese defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Caroline Islands, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Caroline Islands, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 aaGun and 2 infantry in Caroline Islands, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 aaGun owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Caroline Islands Americans win, taking Caroline Islands from Japanese with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun and 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 1 transport moved from 86 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone 1 armour and 3 infantry moved from Brazil to British Guiana 1 carrier moved from 10 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 51 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 33 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 10 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 89 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to British Guiana Place Units - Americans 1 carrier placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 destroyer placed in 101 Sea Zone 4 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone 2 fighters placed in Western United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 62 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open Chinese buy 1 artillery and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 2 infantry moved from Shensi to Kweichow 1 fighter moved from Burma to Kweichow 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi Chinese take Kwangsi from Japanese Combat - Chinese Battle in Kweichow Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Kweichow, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kweichow Chinese win, taking Kweichow from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan Place Units - Chinese 1 artillery and 4 infantry placed in Yunnan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 15 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 carrier, 3 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 fighter moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to 96 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Shan State Combat - British British creates battle in territory 110 Sea Zone Battle in 96 Sea Zone British attack with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber Italians defend with 1 destroyer British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 96 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer in 96 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone British win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer Battle in Shan State British attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Japanese defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Shan State, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State British win, taking Shan State from Japanese with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British 2 fighters moved from Shan State to India 1 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia British take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies 1 infantry moved from Persia to Eastern Persia British take Eastern Persia from Neutral_Allies 1 infantry moved from Persia to 80 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 2 cruisers and 2 destroyers moved from 80 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Tanganyika Territory 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 96 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt 1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan 1 artillery moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 battleship and 2 cruisers moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 3 aaGuns and 1 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom 2 fighters moved from Scotland to United Kingdom 1 artillery moved from Burma to Yunnan 2 mech_infantrys moved from India to Yunnan 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shan State to India 1 mech_infantry moved from Eire to United Kingdom 1 aaGun moved from Burma to India 1 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan 2 infantry moved from Burma to India 1 infantry moved from Burma to India 1 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan 1 aaGun moved from Burma to Yunnan 1 aaGun moved from Burma to India Place Units - British 1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 106 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in Egypt Turn Complete - British British collect 30 PUs; end with 33 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 37 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,6,2,1,4,5 UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 6 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantryCombat Hit Differential Summary :
British : -3,17 Italians : -0,67 Americans : 1,33 Chinese : 0,33 Japanese : 0,33 -
This is it.
I can wait a few hours before finalizing.
Please give your input even if you like it and have no objections. A like-action by the heart-symbol will also be enough input in such case.
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@trulpen Looks very good in the atlantic…if the germans stay with their air, even with a few extra italian inf and air, then the luftwaffe will be decimated keeping russia safe. If they run away then gib is back in allied hands, and an enormous fleet is ready to strike anywhere from Rome to Norway meaning germany has to spend in the west and not in the East.
The Us fleet in caro looks exposed to me…any reason why the uk bb didnt move up to help out? And calcutta will probably fall next turn with a purchase of a NB and AB in FIC, completely bypassing the yunnan stack. The jap fleet in sz6 may take out the blocker dd and then park in midway or hawaii threatening a fast pac victory if not guarded against, although it cant do that, attack the caro fleet and stage for india I dont think.
On the whole though, looks fairly solid! :+1:
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Thanks! Of course missed to move up that bs from z54 to z33.
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Have you done the math to see if India will hold up on UK4? He will have 8 loaded transports along with 21 planes. I don’t think you will make it. Don’t waste those UK troops in Yunnan.
I still don’t think that you comprehend Japan’s obvious plan in this game: take India by sea, leave China alone in the early and mid-game, and move the Japanese units into Russia.
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I have not calculated. I’m lazy, so I’m asking you. ;)
I certainly know about this option, but haven’t looked deeply into it. Calcutta has clear priority over China. If stacking in Calcutta I should in that case have built 3 inf instead of 2 inf, 1 mech, but it’s a little late for that now. Not the end of the world.
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I ran the calculations. He will win easily with a +52 TUV outcome. You will need to stack it with everything possible if you want to dissuade him from a J4 attack. Even then, it will fall if he wants it to fall, and my guess is he wants it to fall.
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Then it shall be as costly as possible, so US can run J over in a couple of turns.
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Ok, the change is then to abandon Yunnan apart from the 2 inf already there and the 2 mech, which will be able to swing back, and stack Calcutta. I’ll just check how Yunnan is holding.
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why keep the 2 British troops already there? nobody is attacking Yunnan. Nobody is attacking China.
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Because that’s the only thing pressuring FIC and Malaya.
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@trulpen Pressuring FIC and Malaya? I am so confused.
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I’m sometimes following the great maxime of attack is the best defence. ;)
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@trulpen India is falling on J4. This is not about a counterattack. Your forces are going to be wiped off the face of the map. He is not going to waste his precious land units on an attack against Yunnan. If that was his plan, he would have done a different J1 opener and saved a bunch of troops.
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:
@trulpen Pressuring FIC and Malaya? I am so confused.
At some time J needs to start focusing east. They can’t afford to just have their air-force stacked in FIC forever. There’s a mIC there. It’s extremely valuable territory for J.
If UK puts pressure on that specific territory, J has to account for it. It binds resources to the defence. Maybe.
Likely J will stack up with a lot of land units there as well, so this is more or less hypothetical, but let me put another perspective in here:
I’d rather have those 2 inf on the board than let J kill them off far too easily in Burma.
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If he attacked those Chinese units, he would lose 4 land units and 6 planes. Why would he do that? That would make him miss his prime objective of a J4 India crush.
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:
If he attacked those Chinese units, he would lose 4 land units and 6 planes. Why would he do that? That would make him miss his prime objective of a J4 India crush.
I fully agree.
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retreat what you can to India. retreat the rest to Burma. It won’t be an easy attack on Burma because he has no land units. He will lose planes to strafe off the soldiers. Or he will need to transport troops that would have been used on J4 for the India crush. Not the worst either way.
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If you can, have Egpytian planes in Persia to reinforce India if that makes sense on UK3.
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