L20 #1 trulpen (X+3) vs ksmckay (A) BM3

[trulpen]

Seems we might finish this tonight.

[trulpen]

But can’t promise I’m able to finish Germany. Starting to get tired.

[trulpen]

Forgot the scramble, but bring in all fleet to z113. Assume no scramble.

[trulpen]

Actually, it’s not certain. Maybe you want to prevent shore bombardment? I’ll wait for your answer. Meanwhile I’ll redo the CM.

[trulpenplay]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 30

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 30

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans repair damage of 10x factory_major, 4x factory_minor, 5x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 53 PUs; 
        Germans buy 5 artilleries and 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Turkey
        1 bomber moved from Rostov to Turkey
        1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
        2 infantry moved from Novgorod to 115 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
        49 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
        10 artilleries moved from Finland to Norway
        1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        10 fighters moved from 115 Sea Zone to Norway
        1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland
              Germans take Eastern Poland from Americans
        13 armour and 13 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to Iraq
        1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
        2 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
        6 fighters moved from Germany to Norway
        1 bomber moved from Germany to Norway
        1 bomber moved from Russia to Norway
        1 bomber moved from Germany to Norway
        1 artillery moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
        1 artillery moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Germany to Greater Southern Germany
        2 fighters moved from Germany to Norway
        5 carriers, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

[ksmckay]

no scramble

[trulpenplay]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 30

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 30

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans repair damage of 10x factory_major, 4x factory_minor, 5x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 53 PUs; 
        Germans buy 5 artilleries and 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Turkey
        1 bomber moved from Rostov to Turkey
        1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
        2 infantry moved from Novgorod to 115 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
        49 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
        10 artilleries moved from Finland to Norway
        1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        10 fighters moved from 115 Sea Zone to Norway
        1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland
              Germans take Eastern Poland from Americans
        13 armour and 13 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to Iraq
        1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
        2 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
        6 fighters moved from Germany to Norway
        1 bomber moved from Germany to Norway
        1 bomber moved from Russia to Norway
        1 bomber moved from Germany to Norway
        1 artillery moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
        1 artillery moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Germany to Greater Southern Germany
        2 fighters moved from Germany to Norway
        5 carriers, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Bessarabia
            Germans attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Americans defend with 1 armour
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 armour in Bessarabia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Bessarabia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 armour in Bessarabia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Bessarabia, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 armour in Bessarabia, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia
            Americans win with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7
            Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        Battle in Turkey
            Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry
            Americans defend with 1 armour
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry in Turkey, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 armour in Turkey, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Turkey
             retreated to Turkey
            Americans win with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
            Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
        Battle in Greater Southern Germany
            Germans attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Americans defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Greater Southern Germany, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Greater Southern Germany, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Greater Southern Germany
            Germans win, taking Greater Southern Germany from Americans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Slovakia Hungary
            Germans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Americans defend with 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Slovakia Hungary
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Slovakia Hungary, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Slovakia Hungary, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Slovakia Hungary, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Slovakia Hungary, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Slovakia Hungary, round 7 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 7 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Slovakia Hungary
            Germans win, taking Slovakia Hungary from Americans with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
        Battle in Iraq
            Germans attack with 13 armour and 14 mech_infantrys
            ANZAC defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 13 armour and 14 mech_infantrys in Iraq, round 2 : 10/27 hits, 8,83 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the ANZAC and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Iraq
            Germans win, taking Iraq from British with 13 armour and 13 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
            Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
        Battle in Norway
            Germans attack with 12 artilleries, 3 bombers, 18 fighters and 51 infantry
            Americans defend with 1 bomber; Russians defend with 2 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 64 infantry
                AA fire in Norway : 1/6 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Norway
                Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Norway, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 12 artilleries, 3 bombers, 17 fighters and 51 infantry in Norway, round 2 : 24/83 hits, 25,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 aaGuns, 3 artilleries, 1 bomber and 64 infantry in Norway, round 2 : 14/68 hits, 22,50 expected hits
                22 infantry owned by the Russians, 14 infantry owned by the Germans, 2 aaGuns owned by the Russians and 1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in Norway
                Germans roll dice for 12 artilleries, 3 bombers, 17 fighters and 37 infantry in Norway, round 3 : 20/69 hits, 22,67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 3 artilleries and 42 infantry in Norway, round 3 : 14/45 hits, 15,00 expected hits
                20 infantry owned by the Russians and 14 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Norway
                Germans roll dice for 12 artilleries, 3 bombers, 17 fighters and 23 infantry in Norway, round 4 : 19/55 hits, 20,33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 3 artilleries and 22 infantry in Norway, round 4 : 9/25 hits, 8,33 expected hits
                19 infantry owned by the Russians and 9 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Norway
                Germans roll dice for 12 artilleries, 3 bombers, 17 fighters and 14 infantry in Norway, round 5 : 22/46 hits, 18,83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 3 artilleries and 3 infantry in Norway, round 5 : 2/6 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Russians, 3 artilleries owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Norway
            Germans win, taking Norway from Russians with 12 artilleries, 3 bombers, 17 fighters and 12 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 99
            Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 39 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 2 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 64 infantry
            Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        3 fighters moved from Norway to Germany
        7 fighters moved from Norway to 113 Sea Zone
        11 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Samara
        7 infantry moved from Bryansk to Rostov
        1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
        1 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
        1 bomber moved from Turkey to Germany
        3 bombers moved from Norway to Germany
        2 aaGuns moved from Finland to Norway
        1 fighter moved from Norway to 113 Sea Zone
        6 fighters moved from Norway to Germany
        1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Rostov to Volgograd
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Volgograd

    Place Units - Germans
        3 artilleries placed in Rostov
        3 infantry placed in Volgograd
        3 infantry placed in Russia
        3 infantry placed in Novgorod
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 80 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,4,5,6,4
        Germans collect 48 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 48 PUs
        Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 54 PUs
        Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 74 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -3,17
British : 0,67
AA fire in Norway : : 0,00
Americans : 0,33
Russians : -8,83

Savegame

[ksmckay]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 30

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 30

    Combat Move - Russians

    Combat - Russians

    Turn Complete - Russians

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

[trulpenplay]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 30

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 30

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 6 infantry and 6 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to Turkey

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Turkey
            Japanese attack with 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys
            Americans defend with 1 armour
                Japanese roll dice for 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys in Turkey, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 armour in Turkey, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 armour owned by the Americans lost in Turkey
            Japanese win, taking Turkey from Americans with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for Americans: 1 armour

    Non Combat Move - Japanese

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans : 0,50
Japanese : 2,17

Savegame

[trulpenplay]

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 30

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 30

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 6 infantry and 6 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Aleutian Islands to 8 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 8 Sea Zone to 2 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 2 Sea Zone to Alaska
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 12 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 10 Sea Zone to Western United States
        1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from 9 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        3 battleships, 2 destroyers and 1 marine moved from 12 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 12 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        2 cruisers moved from 12 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 12 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 25 Sea Zone to Midway
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 12 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 25 Sea Zone to Midway
        4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from 12 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone
        4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 12 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung
        5 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from 8 Sea Zone to Midway
        1 bomber moved from Anhwe to Kwangtung
        2 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan
        1 bomber moved from Anhwe to Yunnan
        1 fighter moved from Anhwe to Kwangtung

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Alaska
        Battle in 31 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter
            Americans defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 31 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking Alaska from Americans with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
        Battle in Western United States
            Japanese converts factory_major into different units
        Battle in 25 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 4 battleships, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 2 transports
            Americans defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 25 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking Western United States from Americans with 4 battleships, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
        Battle in 11 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese roll dice for 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 11 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 4,67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 11 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese and 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 11 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 3 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
        Battle in 27 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese roll dice for 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 27 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/7 hits, 4,00 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 27 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 27 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
        Battle in Kwangtung
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Americans defend with 1 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Kwangtung
            Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Yunnan
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
            Americans defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Yunnan
            Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Midway
            Japanese attack with 5 fighters, 2 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 1 airfield and 2 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 5 fighters, 2 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers in Midway, round 2 : 8/11 hits, 5,50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Midway, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Midway
            Japanese win, taking Midway from Americans with 5 fighters, 2 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Turkey: 1 armour
        EDIT: Changing ownership of Turkey from Americans to Japanese
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Persia: 1 mech_infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        3 submarines moved from 12 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        8 carriers moved from 12 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        3 carriers moved from 9 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        6 carriers moved from 8 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 31 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        5 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Midway to 25 Sea Zone
        3 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from 11 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 27 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        6 fighters moved from 9 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to Hunan
        1 bomber moved from Kwangtung to Hunan
        1 bomber moved from Yunnan to Hunan
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Persia to Turkey
        1 armour and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to Iraq
        1 infantry moved from Chahar to Buyant-Uhaa
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Chahar
        3 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
        1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi
        1 artillery moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
        4 mech_infantrys moved from Anhwe to Hunan
        1 infantry moved from Timguska to Novosibirsk
        1 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
        1 infantry moved from Urals to Vologda
        1 fighter moved from 8 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Hopei
        1 infantry moved from Hopei to Kweichow
        1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan
        2 fighters moved from 8 Sea Zone to Japan
        1 destroyer moved from 8 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 8 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        3 submarines moved from 8 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 8 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
        6 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone
        3 infantry placed in Kiangsu
        3 infantry placed in Shantung

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 8
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 20 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,4,5,6
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 19 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,4,4,6,5,5,3,6,5,5
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,4,4,5
        Japanese collect 54 PUs (8 lost to blockades); end with 54 PUs
        Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 57 PUs
        Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans : -0,33
Chinese : -1,00
UK_Pacific : -0,33
Japanese : 1,33

Savegame

[trulpen]

There you go. I lose like a rock, but it’s a fun rock.

[trulpen]

Think it’s the first time in my life I’ve actually taken WUS. Been close sometimes, but it’s tough.

[ksmckay]

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 30

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 30

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 6 armour, 5 bombers, 1 fighter, 9 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        18 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 26 Sea Zone to Midway
        1 fighter moved from Central United States to 10 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to 2 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Central United States to Western United States
        1 fighter moved from Central United States to Western United States
        5 fighters moved from Eastern United States to Western United States
        1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Greater Southern Germany
        2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Slovakia Hungary
        2 bombers and 8 fighters moved from Western Germany to Germany
        1 bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Germany
        4 fighters moved from Western Germany to Greater Southern Germany
        3 fighters moved from Western Germany to Slovakia Hungary
        2 fighters moved from Yugoslavia to Eastern Poland
        1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
              Americans take Ukraine from Germans
        1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
        5 fighters moved from Trans-Jordan to Turkey
        1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to 81 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Crete to 99 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Turkey
        1 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Eastern Poland
        8 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
        1 bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Volgograd
        18 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
        1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
        1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
        1 marine moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
        2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 18 carriers, 2 cruisers, 7 destroyers, 14 fighters, 4 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 31 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Germany
        1 infantry moved from West India to Afghanistan
              Americans take Afghanistan from Japanese

    Combat - Americans
        Air Battle in Germany
            Americans attacks with 12 units heading to Germany
            Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets
        Strategic bombing raid in Volgograd
                AA fire in Volgograd : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
            Bombing raid in Volgograd rolls: 3 and causes: 3 damage to unit: factory_minor
            Bombing raid in Volgograd causes 3 damage total. 
        Strategic bombing raid in Germany
                AA fire in Germany : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
            1 bomber killed by AA
            Bombing raid in Germany rolls: 7,3 and causes: 10 damage to unit: factory_major
            Bombing raid in Germany causes 10 damage total. 
        Battle in 2 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 bomber
            Japanese defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 2 Sea Zone
            Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
        Battle in 10 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 fighter
            Japanese defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 10 Sea Zone
            Americans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
        Battle in Turkey
            Americans attack with 5 fighters and 2 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
                Americans roll dice for 5 fighters and 2 infantry in Turkey, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Turkey, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 armour owned by the Japanese, 1 fighter owned by the Americans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Turkey
            Americans win, taking Turkey from Japanese with 4 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
            Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
        Battle in Bryansk
            Americans attack with 28 armour
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 28 armour in Bryansk, round 2 : 16/28 hits, 14.00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bryansk
            Americans win, taking Bryansk from Italians with 28 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Greater Southern Germany
            Americans attack with 4 fighters and 2 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 4 fighters and 2 infantry in Greater Southern Germany, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Greater Southern Germany, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Greater Southern Germany
            Americans win, taking Greater Southern Germany from Germans with 4 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        Battle in Midway
            Americans attack with 18 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
            Japanese defend with 1 airfield and 2 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 18 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in Midway, round 2 : 9/20 hits, 10.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Midway, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in Midway
            Americans win with 17 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
            Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
        Battle in Western United States
            Americans attack with 2 artilleries, 6 fighters and 4 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 6 fighters and 4 infantry in Western United States, round 2 : 4/12 hits, 4.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Western United States, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Western United States
            Americans win, taking Western United States from Japanese with 2 artilleries, 6 fighters and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
        Battle in Slovakia Hungary
            Americans attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 artillery
                Americans roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Slovakia Hungary, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Slovakia Hungary
            Americans win, taking Slovakia Hungary from Germans with 3 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery
        Battle in Eastern Poland
            Americans attack with 1 armour and 2 fighters
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 1 armour and 2 fighters in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Eastern Poland
            Americans win, taking Eastern Poland from Germans with 1 armour and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Cleaning up after air battles

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 bomber moved from Volgograd to Western Ukraine
        2 fighters moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
        2 bombers and 9 fighters moved from Germany to Western Germany
        3 fighters moved from Slovakia Hungary to Western Germany
        2 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Bessarabia
        3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
        4 fighters moved from Greater Southern Germany to Western Germany
        3 armour moved from France to Western Germany
        3 armour moved from Spain to France
        3 armour moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany
        2 fighters moved from Turkey to 98 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Turkey to Egypt
        8 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from West India to India
        17 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Midway to 31 Sea Zone
        EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Wake Island to 31 Sea Zone
        EDIT: 1 armour moved from Hawaiian Islands to 31 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 18 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 17 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 31 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 10 Sea Zone to Central United States
        6 fighters moved from Western United States to Eastern United States
        1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to Western Germany
        1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to Western Germany
        3 submarines moved from 64 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 1 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from 2 Sea Zone to British Columbia
        1 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Central United States to British Columbia
        7 infantry moved from Central United States to Western United States
        2 submarines moved from 39 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
        2 submarines moved from 81 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
        2 submarines moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        1 carrier and 2 transports moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        EDIT: 1 destroyer moved from 31 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
        EDIT: 1 destroyer moved from 31 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Americans
        3 mech_infantrys placed in Western Ukraine
        3 infantry placed in Yugoslavia
        3 infantry placed in Northern Italy
        3 infantry placed in Western Germany
        3 armour placed in Southern Italy
        3 armour placed in Spain
        5 bombers and 1 fighter placed in Eastern United States
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 102 PUs; end with 103 PUs
        Trigger Americans 5 Presence In France: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 108 PUs
        Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 113 PUs
        Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 118 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 128 PUs
        Objective Americans 9 Vital Forward Bases: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 133 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 138 PUs
        Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 143 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese

    Place Units - Chinese
        1 infantry placed in Kansu

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 1 PU; end with 1 PU

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 artillery, 6 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 7 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 1 armour and 5 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        2 mech_infantrys moved from India to Yunnan
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Malaya to Yunnan
        1 mech_infantry moved from French Indo China to Kwangsi
        3 fighters moved from West India to Yunnan
        2 bombers moved from India to Kwangsi
        2 fighters moved from West India to Yunnan
        1 bomber moved from India to Rostov
        4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Rostov
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to 81 Sea Zone
        3 infantry moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 81 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Rostov
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Caucasus
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
              British take Persia from Germans
        1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
        2 bombers, 7 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Trans-Jordan to Rostov
        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Rostov

    Combat - British
        Battle in Caucasus
        Battle in Yunnan
            British attack with 5 fighters and 5 mech_infantrys
            Japanese defend with 2 infantry
                British roll dice for 5 fighters and 5 mech_infantrys in Yunnan, round 2 : 5/10 hits, 3.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 mech_infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan
            British win, taking Caucasus from Germans, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 5 fighters and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
        Battle in Kwangsi
            British attack with 2 bombers and 1 mech_infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 mech_infantry in Kwangsi, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kwangsi, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 mech_infantry owned by the British lost in Kwangsi
            British win with 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
            Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Rostov
            British attack with 2 artilleries, 4 bombers, 11 fighters, 4 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
            Germans defend with 3 artilleries, 1 factory_minor and 8 infantry
                British roll dice for 2 artilleries, 4 bombers, 11 fighters, 4 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Rostov, round 2 : 16/24 hits, 11.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries and 8 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 5/11 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                3 artilleries owned by the Germans, 8 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 artillery owned by the British and 4 infantry owned by the British lost in Rostov
            British win, taking Rostov from Germans with 1 artillery, 4 bombers, 11 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20
            Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 4 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 3 artilleries and 8 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        4 fighters moved from Rostov to Western Ukraine
        4 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Rostov to Western Ukraine
        7 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Rostov to Bryansk
        4 aaGuns and 1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
        1 fighter moved from 80 Sea Zone to Egypt
        1 carrier and 2 destroyers moved from 80 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
        5 fighters moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
        2 mech_infantrys moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
        1 armour, 1 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from West India to India
        1 mech_infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 71 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Egypt
        1 armour, 1 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from India to Burma
        1 battleship moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone
        1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone
        1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from 91 Sea Zone to Spain
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
        1 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
        1 mech_infantry moved from France to Yugoslavia
        1 mech_infantry moved from Spain to Northern Italy
        1 infantry moved from Spain to Southern France
        2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to India

    Place Units - British
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Egypt
        2 infantry placed in Union of South Africa
        1 transport placed in 71 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 36 PUs; end with 43 PUs
        Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 46 PUs
        Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 49 PUs
        Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 52 PUs
        Objective British 2 Southern Europe Beach Head: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 55 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        3 mech_infantrys placed in India
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Malaya

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 18 PUs; end with 19 PUs
        Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 22 PUs
        Units Change Ownership
            Some Units in India change ownership: 3 mech_infantrys
            Some Units in Malaya change ownership: 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : 0.00
Italians : -0.33
British : 6.33
AA fire in Volgograd : : -0.17
Americans : 0.50
Japanese : 2.83
AA fire in Germany : : 0.50

Savegame

[ksmckay]

@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X+3) vs ksmckay (A) BM3:

There you go. I lose like a rock, but it’s a fun rock.

for one of us. Im executing my turns with minimal thought. Do you feel like you are clawing your way back?

[trulpen]

@ksmckay said in L20 #1 trulpen (X+3) vs ksmckay (A) BM3:

@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X+3) vs ksmckay (A) BM3:

There you go. I lose like a rock, but it’s a fun rock.

for one of us. Im executing my turns with minimal thought. Do you feel like you are clawing your way back?

Don’t really feel that, but I have rarely heard the fat lady sing. I’m just annoyingly stubborn. Chess player, you know. But honestly, this is still a learning experience for me, so while I’m sorry to put you through this tedious finish, I’m enjoying and (I hope) learning from it.

I promise that I will resign when my time is right.

[ksmckay]

yep, just annoying to see you playing 10 games, starting new ones, and yet neglecting ongoing games.

[trulpen]

@ksmckay said in L20 #1 trulpen (X+3) vs ksmckay (A) BM3:

yep, just annoying to see you playing 10 games, starting new ones, and yet neglecting ongoing games.

It’s my curse.

I’m not neglecting this one. Well, ok, maybe I am, but not actively on purpose. It’s just very complex. Atleast for me.

[ksmckay]

@trulpen ok

[ksmckay]

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 30

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 30

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 artillery, 3 carriers, 3 destroyers, 6 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
        3 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to Caroline Islands
        2 submarines moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 54 Sea Zone
        1 artillery placed in Queensland

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs
        Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 20 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 23 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 26 PUs

    Purchase Units - French
        French buy 3 armour; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - French
        1 armour moved from French Indo China to Kwangsi
              Chinese take Kwangsi from Japanese
        1 armour moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        1 fighter, 1 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
        1 destroyer moved from 80 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Tambov
              French take Tambov from Germans
        1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
        1 mech_infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Bessarabia
        1 artillery moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
        1 fighter moved from Southern France to Western Ukraine

    Combat - French

    Non Combat Move - French
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        EDIT: 1 fighter moved from Western Ukraine to Western Germany
        1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Spain

    Place Units - French
        3 armour placed in French Indo China

    Turn Complete - French
        French collect 20 PUs; end with 22 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

[ksmckay]

@trulpen feel free to do whatever with italians. cant really see much for them to do and less that would affect france, short of suiciding against 2 inf in GSG or Slavakia, in which case if you were to win the 3% battle, I would do something different with France. Otherwise whatever is fine.