AA50-41 PBF Tourney Discussion (Sign-up - Closed)

Hi, hope this can be find useful.
You have all the set-up for 1941 and 1942 scenarii.
Here is 1941 Set-up for Japan:

Japan Starting income: 17 IPCs
Okinawa: 1 Infantry
Manchuria: 3 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Japan: 4 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 AAA, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, Industrial Complex
Iwo Jima: 1 Infantry
Caroline Islands: 3 Infantry
Formosa: 1 Fighter
French Indo-China/Thailand: 3 Infantry
Kiangsu: 3 Infantry

NAVAL SETUP:
Sea Zone 51: 1 Destroyer, 2 Transports
Sea Zone 57: 2 Aircraft Carriers, 4 Fighters
Sea Zone 61: 1 Aircraft Carrier with 2 Fighters, 1 Battleship, 1 Cruiser, 1 Transport with 1 Infantry & 1 Artillery, 1 Transport with 2 Infantry
Sea Zone 62: 1 Transport

1942 Japanese scenario:

Japan Starting income: 31 IPCs
Okinawa: 1 Infantry
Manchuria: 2 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Japan: 4 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 AAA, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, 1 Bomber, Industrial Complex
Iwo Jima: 1 Infantry
Caroline Islands: 1 Infantry
Formosa: 1 Fighter
French Indo-China/Thailand: 2 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Kiangsu: 3 Infantry
Wake Island: 1 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
Solomon Islands: 1 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
New Guinea: 1 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
Philippine Islands: 2 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
Borneo: 1 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
East Indies: 1 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
Burma: 1 Infantry, 1 Control Marker
Kwangtung: 1 Infantry, 1 Control Marker

NAVAL SETUP:
Sea Zone 38: 1 Aircraft Carrier with 2 Fighters, 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 46: 1 Submarine
Sea Zone 50: 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 51: 1 Aircraft Carrier with 1 Fighter, 1 Destroyer
Sea Zone 62: 1 Battleship, 1 Transport

Axis_Setup Chart.doc

@Bjergmose:

Is the defender able to scramble ftr to counter the recon?

Do you use ftr and/or bmb to recon?

If you recon can your airplanes still perform combat moves?

Would like to play…but not exactly in the neighbourhood :-)

No ftr scramble.  If you have AA in the area, you can use it.

Yes.  They can be used in Combat moves.

@General:

Recon?

So you dont set the game up at the start?

I still dont get it.

Yes.  You setup up the game in the beginning per the rules.  Obviously recon is not needed on Germany 1st move or Russia first move if you are playing 1942 scenario.

You actually setup 2 game boards with ALL the pieces.  One side is the Axis and one is the Allies.

@SilverAngelSurfer:

So you can recon any adjacent territories whenever you want, or is there a limited number of recons per turn?  And to recon more distant territories you need to do an aerial recon which has a chance of failure…  Quite interesting.  I take it you need one map for the axis and one map for the allies?  Sounds like a cross between A&A and Battleship, if I’m getting this right.  :mrgreen:

I guess you would call it a cross.  Never thought of it that way…

Each country is allowed to recon before it combat move.  Ground recon 1st and then Air.

@Tarling:

I think this link should help. I assume it uses something similar, although I have not had the opportunity to play this variant. Seems quite fun though!!

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/17670/axis-allies-double-blind-doc?

I like this.  We have never used the last rule but that sounds pretty interesting.  Propaganda.

Normally we do not allow announcements of things going on in one thread to be also posted in another. I will allow it this time.

@hakan:

I have changed my mind. I also think the NO’s are brilliant! Not only because they make the strategies look more like in the real war, but also (don’t bark at me Krieghund) because you can balance the game yourself, or to simulate for example the “Sino-Soviet Non-Aggression Pact”, just by adding a few lines in the NO. Much better then to add complicated Optional Rules.

I have nothing against house rules, per se.  I use them myself.  I just think that some people are too quick to implement house rules to address perceived imbalances in games, before enough games have been played to determine whether there actually is a balance issue.

More than 10, I have about 7 games going on at the moment.

tcnance - This thread may help you also; it has a list of rule changes that Krieghund made.

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=12932.0

Yes, I just wish convoy zones would have been but in the game in the first place like AAE. That was a great idea to get the Battle of the Atlantic in the game. AA50 should have been AAE and AAP combined with a few modifications. Still looks awesome though. I see IL has come up with a convoy system in his AA50 house rules. I think the simplest way to do it would be to be key sea zones and put control markers in them. If an enemy unit enters it you cover it with your marker. Each convoy could be worth 1 or 2 IPC’s. Depending on what worked better. If you get it back then remove the enemy’s marker.

U.S.
Sea Zones - #65, 56, 55, 18, 19, 20, 10, 53, 56 ,50

UK- #1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 28, 35, 46, 47, 42, The East Indies Zones, can’t see numbers from pictures

Italy-#14

Germany -#5

Russia-#4

Japan-#61, 62, 50, 36, 60, The East Indies Zones, can’t see numbers from pictures

The most logic and reasonable endgame terms is common sense… you know if (almost certainly) you can’t win, at least experienced players usually does, and probably most AA50 players will already be familiar with AAR or other AA versions.