Operation Market Garden

That tea $hit got a lot of allied soldiers killed during WWI though and Germany knew UK would do that.

I think they’d have managed to hold on for some time, but eventually the Germans would have overwhelmed the invasion and forced another Dunkirk or captured the entire invasion force. The allies simply didn’t have the resources they needed at this point in the war to try something like this and have a chance of victory.

All those allied infantry in such an invasion would’ve needed to hit 2s for several rounds running to have a chance.  :-D

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Apparently one of only two Lancs in the world that still fly.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/hamilton-s-lancaster-bomber-marks-25-years-back-in-the-sky-1.1866309

Excellent article Marc. Only just go to read it. The expense is ridiculous, but worth it, I believe. The many accidents and that hangar fire are horrid to read about.
It will be sad indeed when planes like this no longer grace our skies.

I can’t really pick a favourite because I only know a few of the units involved (the 82nd, the 101, the 1st Airborne and the Polish Brigade), but Market-Garden always brings to my mind the scene in A Bridge Too Far in which General Horrocks stands in front of a big room of XXX Corps officers and jovially declares: “Gentlemen, this is a story you will tell your grandchildren…and mightily bored they’ll be.”

Agreed, it is interesting.

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Choose your side(axis or allies) and your strategy

Russians - one of the main factors concerning the success of Barbarossa was that Stalin actually believed that the Germans would not attack before 1942 and ignored the reports of the German build-up. The Soviet High Command also made a serious strategic mistake after the Soviet-German Pact by moving its armies from their prepared defensive positions to new areas on their now extended borders (E. Poland, Bessarabia, Baltic States) where they were vulnerable to an attack.
I think it was 3 days before the German attack that a German deserter turned itself to the Soviets at the border and said the date of the German attack. Upon hearing the report, Stalin ordered him shot for spreading false rumours - imagine what could have happened if he had finally listened.

he would have ordered an assault, which the germans could easily counter causing huge damage and many casualties to soviet forces…

Stalin and the Soviet High Command knew that the Red Army in 1941 was in no condition of mounting an assault but it could have started its mobilization earlier and move to protect the airforce and pull back major units from frontier, avoiding their encirclement and destruction at the beginning of the German offensive. By October/November 1941 the Germans started realizing that they had greatly underestimated the number of Soviet divisions that could be deployed, even with the huge Soviet losses during the initial invasion. With those forces alerted and properly deployed against a German invasion, and the Germans could have probably been stopped sooner or forced to focus their advance on a single axis towards Moscow/Leningrad/Kiev. Germans could win an operational victory but would suffer a strategic defeat by failing to bring down the Soviet Union as quickly as possible before it turned into a war of attrition that it couldn’t win.

That would be HILARIOUS. He would look at his painting then slowly get a huge grin from ear-ear. Then he pulls out his Luger and pops 3 or 4 rounds in it and says “time to start over”.
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