Yeah, I’m pulling in $25k right now - a lawyer at the Public Interest Law Centre in Winnipeg and one on Wall Street are two very different things lol. It’s a good firm too but barely paying the bills…
good luck. we all deserve to be rich,happy, and properous. provided we work hard enough.
Well thanks! :-)
Go to it man!
@froodster:
Yeah, I’m pulling in $25k right now - a lawyer at the Public Interest Law Centre in Winnipeg and one on Wall Street are two very different things lol. It’s a good firm too but barely paying the bills…
Hey, Froodster, is that in Canadian dollars? If so, ouch, you DO need the raise.
LOL,
WG
P.S. – Good luck :-)
Actually, it’s Canadian Tire™ money :-D (Canadian Tire is a Automotive/camping/sporting goods store and they give you Canadian Tire money when you shop there)
Good Luck!
And good luck with the raise. It’s amazing the wage disparity in different parts of the country. My wife used to live in Sault St. Marie and when she transferred offices to Guelph her salary almost doubled. And the two cities are only an 8 hour car drive apart!
Of course, when you compare the real-estate markets in the two cities, you need to make twice as much here just to afford the same size house…
Good Luck!
And good luck with the raise. It’s amazing the wage disparity in different parts of the country. My wife used to live in Sault St. Marie and when she transferred offices to Guelph her salary almost doubled. And the two cities are only an 8 hour car drive apart!
Of course, when you compare the real-estate markets in the two cities, you need to make twice as much here just to afford the same size house…
yeah
i don’t complain about the salary differential between here (Winnipeg) and Calgary as much given that my current home cost about a third of what a similar home in Calgary would cost . . . .
Anyway - all the best Dan. It’ll be nice to not be “articling” anymore - i’m sure you guys have the equivalent scut work that residents have . . . it’ll be nice to be on the other side of that.
Yeah man, Good Luck!
Aye, Good Luck. Knock 'em dead.
So… HOW DID IT GO???
Yeah, don’t leave us hangin’
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:-D?
:cry:?
:-)
Sorry y’all. I personally feel like the interview went really well. Felt a pretty good rapport with the interviewers and they seemed to like my marks and my resume. Also, I am not aware of any serious competition for the job - most of my fellow graduates who had good marks have jobs that are likely to continue, whereas I knew going into my articles that there was no chance of employment after the articling year because it is such a small office.
They said they would decide by the end of the month and I haven’t heard anything yet. I’ll be sure to let you know when I do.
I hope you get it!
So I heard via my boss (who gave me a good reference) that they really liked my application but were concerned about my lack of actual advocacy experience (court time, basically). So at least if I don’t get it I’ll know why.
In the meantime they have re-advertised the job (with a note attached saying “Hiring decisions are being made right now”) and told me that they are still very interested in my application and that I should let them know if I need a decision from them (ie. have another offer). I think I may have been their only application so they just want to see if anyone else might be out there. So if no one better turns up they might still hire me. Leaves a bad taste but it’s true that I don’t have some of the experience they want.
Oh well. In the meantime I will be applying elsewhere and maybe I’ll have another offer before they come back to me, and then I can stick it to them…
Actually another job just opened up that would be right up my alley - with the constitutional law branch of the provincial government. Only problem is they want 5 years experience, but they may not get such a person. Can’t hurt to try anyway.
Well, Frood - I’ve been a lawyer for 18 years and I’ve interviewed a lot of articling students and young lawyers over the years. Not too many of them have any advocacy experience. Most of artilcing is spent writing briefs, doing research and watching senior lawyers do the “advocating”, so I’m not sure what this firm was expecting to find.
What firm is it by the way? I practice in Sask. and Alberta, so I’ll probably know the firm in Winnipeg.
SS
Nice to meet another lawyer on here. What firm are you with? One of the big ones like Blakes or McCarthy Tetrault that I might have heard of? What’s your practice?
The firm is Hill Abra Dewar - small, with 9 lawyers, but a solid reputation as an exclusively litigation boutique. They hived off of Aikins (biggest firm in town) in 1988 or so and take a lot of the big clients that are conflicted out of the big firms.
Yeah, I’m not sure they’ll find anyone more suited that is actually looking for a job. I think they want people who were in advocacy competitions etc. in law school but I know those people and they are all in cushy jobs with the big firms or the federal dept. of justice.
In the meantime I have time to pursue other options and if I get another offer that just gives me some more leverage (or a better option).
To be honest I’d prefer to stay in a memo-writing capacity - I like research and analysis and writing - in court you have all these unpredictable human dynamics etc. Maybe the same reason I like PBEM a bit more than FTF gaming now - time to think and make the best possible move. So now that they’ve sort of indicated to me that they see me as a fall-back option I’m tempted to leave them high and dry if I get another offer, just to stick it to them.
I guess extending the competition is legitimate for them to do but it’s a little embarrassing for my friends, who know I’ve applied there, to know that they were not sufficiently impressed with me to take me even if I was their only applicant. So that burns a bit.
They’re a great firm and it would be good to go there though.
They’re a corporation - of course they want the biggest bang for their buck. Who cares if your emotions are hurt? You’re merely part of the Labour Aristocracy, fattened through the explotation of third-world countries but still part of the proletariat because you must sell your labour to survive.
/socialist rant :lol:
You should look around! The job with the provincial government sounds fun… even better would be something with an advocacy group such as Amnesty International. …
They’re a corporation - of course they want the biggest bang for their buck. Who cares if your emotions are hurt? You’re merely part of the Labour Aristocracy, fattened through the explotation of third-world countries but still part of the proletariat because you must sell your labour to survive.
/socialist rant :lol:
Actually, they’re a partnership, not a corporation - the partners are liable for their own fuckups, and not beholden to maximize profits for their shareholders - they themselves are the “shareholders”. But yes, still in it for the money.
I guess I’m proletariat - but at I do also own my own means of production.
