Gamerman01 (Axis) vs Ragnell804 (Allies) - Classic Invitational Game, RR, No Neutrals, Tech Turn 4


  • @gamerman01

    Lost the sub and carrier


  • Thanks @Ragnell804 , continuing, then


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 1

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Classic

    Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 3 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands Sea Zone to Hawaii Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from Solomon Islands Sea Zone to Hawaii Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 transport moved from Japan Sea Zone to Hawaii Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Philippines to Hawaii Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Kwangtung to China
            1 fighter moved from French Indo China to China
            1 bomber moved from Japan to China
            1 fighter moved from Manchuria to China
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Hawaii Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Manchuria to China
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to China
    
        Combat - Japanese
            Battle in China
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 6 infantry
                Americans defend with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 6 infantry in China, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in China, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in China
                    2 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in China
                Japanese win, taking China from Americans with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Battle in Hawaii Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 2 battleships, 1 carrier, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 transport
                Americans defend with 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in Hawaii Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 1 carrier, 3 fighters and 1 transport in Hawaii Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in Hawaii Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 carrier and 1 fighter in Hawaii Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 carrier owned by the Americans lost in Hawaii Sea Zone
                1 submarine owned by the Japanese retreated to Wake Island Sea Zone
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 1 carrier, 3 fighters and 1 transport in Hawaii Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 fighter in Hawaii Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in Hawaii Sea Zone
                    1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in Hawaii Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 2 battleships, 1 carrier and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 30
                Casualties for Americans: 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
    
        Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 fighter moved from Hawaii Sea Zone to Wake Island
            1 infantry moved from Philippines to Philippines Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Philippines Sea Zone to Borneo Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Borneo Celebes to Borneo Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from Borneo Sea Zone to French Indo China Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to French Indo China
            2 fighters moved from China to French Indo China
            1 bomber moved from China to French Indo China
    
        Place Units - Japanese
            3 transports placed in Japan Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 27 PUs; end with 28 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -1.50
    Japanese regular : 0.00
    

    Savegame


  • I have a hard time switching between versions 🤔

    Withdrawing the sub seemed like a good idea, then realized I was relying on it for defense… Well… I don’t think you’ll be counterattacking Hawaii anyway.

    Wanted to say - When I have really good luck like that G1 I’m happy to acknowledge it, but I don’t want to say anything after I make the move because I wouldn’t want to be greeted with “WOW I got super lucky that turn, sorry!”

    Alright, time for me to dread what USA and Russia will do

    Wall in Siberia - causes major problems
    Enjoying the game already


  • @gamerman01

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Soviet Far East to Manchuria
                  Russians take Manchuria from Japanese
            2 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Caucasus
            3 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Finland Norway
            2 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Finland Norway
            1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R.
                  Russians take Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans
            1 armour moved from Novosibirsk to Caucasus
            2 armour moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Finland Norway
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Caucasus
                Russians attack with 1 armour and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 armour
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Caucasus
                    1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus
                Russians win, taking Caucasus from Germans with 1 armour and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour
            Battle in Finland Norway
                Russians attack with 2 armour, 2 fighters and 3 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 armour and 3 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Finland Norway, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 3 infantry in Finland Norway, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Finland Norway
                    3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Finland Norway
                    Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Finland Norway, round 3 : 3/5 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Finland Norway, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Finland Norway
                Russians win, taking Finland Norway from Germans with 2 armour, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour and 3 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 fighters moved from Finland Norway to Karelia S.S.R.
            6 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Novosibirsk
    
        Place Units - Russians
            8 infantry placed in Karelia S.S.R.
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : 1.00
    Russians regular : 1.50
    

    R2.tsvg


  • @gamerman01

    Just a calm US and Russian turn.


  • I don’t know how it’s happening, but I am not seeing notifications for this thread! I guessed you would have moved by now, so came to see. Will see about moving tonight then! Just wanted to let you know why I’m not moving more quickly!


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Classic

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            4 fighters and 1 infantry moved from East Europe to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from West Europe to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 bomber moved from South Europe to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from East Europe to Ukraine S.S.R.
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Germans attack with 2 bombers, 5 fighters and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 5 fighters and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 3/9 hits, 4.17 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 2 bombers, 5 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Europe
            1 battleship moved from West Mediteranean Sea Zone to Central Mediteranean Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from French West Africa to French Equatorial Africa
            2 bombers moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to West Europe
            1 infantry moved from Germany to East Europe
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to West Europe
            1 aaGun moved from South Europe to Germany
            2 fighters moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Europe
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to West Europe
            2 infantry moved from South Europe to East Europe
            3 infantry moved from South Europe to West Europe
    
        Place Units - Germans
            1 transport placed in Central Mediteranean Sea Zone
            3 infantry placed in South Europe
            Germans undo move 2.
            2 infantry placed in South Europe
            1 fighter and 4 infantry placed in Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 34 PUs; end with 36 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Russians regular : 0.67
    Germans regular : -1.17
    

    Savegame


  • My inexperience against actual good players online is probably already showing


  • You can message me once you’ve moved, I don’t know why I missed notification twice and made you wait days, I feel bad.


  • @gamerman01

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 carrier and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 6 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 bomber moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Black Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Black Sea Zone to South Europe
    
        Combat - British
            Strategic bombing raid in South Europe
                Bombing raid in South Europe rolls: 4 and costs: 4 PUs.
                Bombing raid costs 4 PUs
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 bomber moved from South Europe to Karelia S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Sinkiang to India
            1 infantry moved from Sinkiang to Kazakh S.S.R.
            2 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Kazakh S.S.R.
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Karelia S.S.R.
            1 transport moved from South Compass Sea Zone to South Australia Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Australia to South Australia Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from South Australia Sea Zone to South Compass Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from West Canada to East Canada
    
        Place Units - British
            1 carrier and 1 transport placed in North Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 26 PUs; end with 32 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    UK2.tsvg


  • Well, now I know the route from Karelia to Italy
    Who knows how much I’ll learn from you!


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 2

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Classic

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 armour, 5 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to French Indo China Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to East Indies Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from East Indies to East Indies Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from East Indies Sea Zone to West Australia Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from West Australia Sea Zone to Australia
                  Japanese take Australia from British
            1 transport moved from Japan Sea Zone to Wake Island Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Wake Island to Wake Island Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Wake Island Sea Zone to Japan Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Japan Sea Zone to Manchuria
            2 infantry moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from Japan Sea Zone to Soviet Far East Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Soviet Far East Sea Zone to Soviet Far East
                  Japanese take Soviet Far East from Russians
            2 fighters moved from Hawaii Sea Zone to West Panama Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from Hawaii Sea Zone to West Panama Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from China to Sinkiang
                  Japanese take Sinkiang from Americans
            2 infantry moved from French Indo China to India
            1 fighter moved from Wake Island to Manchuria
            1 battleship moved from Hawaii Sea Zone to West Panama Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Manchuria
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to India
    
        Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Manchuria
                Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Manchuria, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Manchuria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Manchuria
                Japanese win, taking Manchuria from Russians with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in India
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in India, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in India, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in India
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in India
                Japanese win, taking India from British with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in West Panama Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 2 battleships and 2 fighters
                Americans defend with 1 battleship and 1 transport
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships and 2 fighters in West Panama Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 transport in West Panama Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    1 transport owned by the Americans and 1 battleship owned by the Americans lost in West Panama Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 2 battleships and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 32
                Casualties for Americans: 1 battleship and 1 transport
    
        Non Combat Move - Japanese
            2 fighters moved from West Panama Sea Zone to Hawaii Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from Wake Island Sea Zone to Borneo Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Manchuria to China
            1 fighter moved from Manchuria to French Indo China
            1 armour moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 transport moved from Japan Sea Zone to French Indo China Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to French Indo China
            1 fighter moved from India to China
            3 infantry moved from China to French Indo China
            1 bomber moved from India to French Indo China
            1 infantry moved from China to French Indo China
    
        Place Units - Japanese
            1 armour and 5 infantry placed in Japan
            1 transport placed in Japan Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -0.83
    Japanese regular : 2.83
    Russians regular : -0.33
    British regular : 0.67
    

    Savegame


  • @gamerman01

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 carrier and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to West Panama Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 2 transports moved from East US Sea Zone to West Panama Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from East Canada to West Panama Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in West Panama Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 2 transports
                Japanese defend with 2 battleships
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 2 transports in West Panama Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships in West Panama Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    2 battleships owned by the Japanese lost in West Panama Sea Zone
                Americans win with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 48
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 battleships
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber moved from West Panama Sea Zone to Panama
            1 aaGun moved from Mexico to Panama
            2 infantry moved from West Canada to West US
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Americans
            1 carrier and 2 transports placed in East US Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 32 PUs; end with 34 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : 0.67
    Japanese regular : -1.33
    

  • @gamerman01

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 armour and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Novosibirsk: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Yakut S.S.R.: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Novosibirsk: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R.
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Russians attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Russians win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 armour and 1 infantry moved from Finland Norway to Karelia S.S.R.
            3 armour moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia
            1 armour moved from Caucasus to Russia
            2 fighters moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Karelia S.S.R.
    
        Place Units - Russians
            1 armour and 3 infantry placed in Russia
            6 infantry placed in Karelia S.S.R.
            Russians undo move 2.
            2 infantry placed in Karelia S.S.R.
            2 infantry placed in Russia
            1 infantry placed in Karelia S.S.R.
            1 infantry placed in Russia
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 27 PUs; end with 27 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : 0.33
    Russians regular : -0.50
    

    R3.tsvg


  • @gamerman01

    Yeah tbh sacking the Japanese BB was not a great move that will probably come to haunt you later in the game


  • What was bad was withdrawing the sub to try and gain a space


  • But I think I did that (w/d sub) to encourage a counter on Pearl, so wasn’t just to gain a space.


  • @gamerman01

    No, your move was ok but you should’ve caught the planes on the carrier to attack the Panama SZ


  • You mean take the carrier in, for more defense, I think

    I wanted you to attack the zone

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