@leemorrison You’re being polite. Yes I got my bomber and some air shot down during the first two turns but I overextended very badly with Japan, mostly because I underestimated the value the tanks would give you in terms of exploiting openings in my positions.
Gamerman01 (Axis) vs Ragnell804 (Allies) - Classic Invitational Game, RR, No Neutrals, Tech Turn 4
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@Ragnell804 said in Gamerman01 (Axis) vs Ragnell804 (Allies) - Classic Invitational Game, RR, No Neutrals, Tech Turn 4:
Apologies if you see double rolls. I messed up my CM, the outcome was still the same as the original so I didn’t need to do any fancy editing.
Thanks for full disclosure,
Yikes I see what you mean
That’s not good. I’ll give you some ideas to prevent you having trouble with someone in the future.Play in local if you’re not sure what you’re going to do. Only play by forum if you’re ready to roll dice that count. And if you do roll live dice and want to re-do something, at least wait several minutes so that your opponent can see the gap in MARTI dice.
I’m not making anything of this instance, I can kind of tell that they went the same way, as you said, but MARTI dice come in out of order and they’re confusing. So if you wait several minutes before rolling them again, that’s better.
Especially with someone you’ve never gamed with.
And of course if you get really lucky rolls like I did on G1, your opponent is more likely to be disgruntled.Of course I’m loving the 1 damage and the big hit in Egypt, and I can kind of see (blame confusing MARTI emails) that what you say is true. I definitely trust players on this site even before I get familiar with them. Thanks for full disclosure, be more careful in the future.
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 1
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Classic
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 3 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Japanese 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands Sea Zone to Hawaii Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Solomon Islands Sea Zone to Hawaii Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 transport moved from Japan Sea Zone to Hawaii Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Philippines to Hawaii Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Kwangtung to China 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to China 1 bomber moved from Japan to China 1 fighter moved from Manchuria to China 1 fighter moved from Japan to Hawaii Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Manchuria to China 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to China Combat - Japanese Battle in China Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 6 infantry Americans defend with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 6 infantry in China, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 2.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in China, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in China 2 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in China Japanese win, taking China from Americans with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter and 2 infantry Battle in Hawaii Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 battleships, 1 carrier, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 transport Americans defend with 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 submarine Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in Hawaii Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 1 carrier, 3 fighters and 1 transport in Hawaii Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 3.00 expected hitsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -0.33 Japanese regular : 0.00 -
Argh, I have to stop it again.
Only 2 hits at Hawaii, what do you keep/lose? If you keep your sub, does it withdraw? To where?Thanks!
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Lost the sub and carrier
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Thanks @Ragnell804 , continuing, then
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Classic
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 3 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Japanese 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands Sea Zone to Hawaii Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Solomon Islands Sea Zone to Hawaii Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 transport moved from Japan Sea Zone to Hawaii Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Philippines to Hawaii Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Kwangtung to China 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to China 1 bomber moved from Japan to China 1 fighter moved from Manchuria to China 1 fighter moved from Japan to Hawaii Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Manchuria to China 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to China Combat - Japanese Battle in China Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 6 infantry Americans defend with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 6 infantry in China, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 2.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in China, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in China 2 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in China Japanese win, taking China from Americans with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter and 2 infantry Battle in Hawaii Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 battleships, 1 carrier, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 transport Americans defend with 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 submarine Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in Hawaii Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 1 carrier, 3 fighters and 1 transport in Hawaii Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in Hawaii Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 carrier and 1 fighter in Hawaii Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 carrier owned by the Americans lost in Hawaii Sea Zone 1 submarine owned by the Japanese retreated to Wake Island Sea Zone Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 1 carrier, 3 fighters and 1 transport in Hawaii Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 fighter in Hawaii Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in Hawaii Sea Zone 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in Hawaii Sea Zone Japanese win with 2 battleships, 1 carrier and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 30 Casualties for Americans: 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 submarine Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 fighter moved from Hawaii Sea Zone to Wake Island 1 infantry moved from Philippines to Philippines Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Philippines Sea Zone to Borneo Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Borneo Celebes to Borneo Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from Borneo Sea Zone to French Indo China Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to French Indo China 2 fighters moved from China to French Indo China 1 bomber moved from China to French Indo China Place Units - Japanese 3 transports placed in Japan Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 27 PUs; end with 28 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -1.50 Japanese regular : 0.00 -
I have a hard time switching between versions 🤔
Withdrawing the sub seemed like a good idea, then realized I was relying on it for defense… Well… I don’t think you’ll be counterattacking Hawaii anyway.
Wanted to say - When I have really good luck like that G1 I’m happy to acknowledge it, but I don’t want to say anything after I make the move because I wouldn’t want to be greeted with “WOW I got super lucky that turn, sorry!”
Alright, time for me to dread what USA and Russia will do
Wall in Siberia - causes major problems
Enjoying the game already -
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Soviet Far East to Manchuria Russians take Manchuria from Japanese 2 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Caucasus 3 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Finland Norway 2 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Finland Norway 1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R. Russians take Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans 1 armour moved from Novosibirsk to Caucasus 2 armour moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Finland Norway Combat - Russians Battle in Caucasus Russians attack with 1 armour and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 armour Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Caucasus 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus Russians win, taking Caucasus from Germans with 1 armour and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 armour Battle in Finland Norway Russians attack with 2 armour, 2 fighters and 3 infantry Germans defend with 1 armour and 3 infantry Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Finland Norway, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 2.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 3 infantry in Finland Norway, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Finland Norway 3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Finland Norway Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Finland Norway, round 3 : 3/5 hits, 2.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Finland Norway, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Finland Norway Russians win, taking Finland Norway from Germans with 2 armour, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 armour and 3 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 2 fighters moved from Finland Norway to Karelia S.S.R. 6 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Novosibirsk Place Units - Russians 8 infantry placed in Karelia S.S.R. Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 1.00 Russians regular : 1.50 -
Just a calm US and Russian turn.
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I don’t know how it’s happening, but I am not seeing notifications for this thread! I guessed you would have moved by now, so came to see. Will see about moving tonight then! Just wanted to let you know why I’m not moving more quickly!
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Classic
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 4 fighters and 1 infantry moved from East Europe to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from West Europe to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 bomber moved from South Europe to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from East Europe to Ukraine S.S.R. Combat - Germans Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans attack with 2 bombers, 5 fighters and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 5 fighters and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 3/9 hits, 4.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 2 bombers, 5 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Europe 1 battleship moved from West Mediteranean Sea Zone to Central Mediteranean Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from French West Africa to French Equatorial Africa 2 bombers moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to West Europe 1 infantry moved from Germany to East Europe 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to West Europe 1 aaGun moved from South Europe to Germany 2 fighters moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Europe 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to West Europe 2 infantry moved from South Europe to East Europe 3 infantry moved from South Europe to West Europe Place Units - Germans 1 transport placed in Central Mediteranean Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in South Europe Germans undo move 2. 2 infantry placed in South Europe 1 fighter and 4 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 34 PUs; end with 36 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : 0.67 Germans regular : -1.17 -
My inexperience against actual good players online is probably already showing
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You can message me once you’ve moved, I don’t know why I missed notification twice and made you wait days, I feel bad.
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Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - British British buy 1 carrier and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 6 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 bomber moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Black Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Black Sea Zone to South Europe Combat - British Strategic bombing raid in South Europe Bombing raid in South Europe rolls: 4 and costs: 4 PUs. Bombing raid costs 4 PUs Non Combat Move - British 1 bomber moved from South Europe to Karelia S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Sinkiang to India 1 infantry moved from Sinkiang to Kazakh S.S.R. 2 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Kazakh S.S.R. 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Karelia S.S.R. 1 transport moved from South Compass Sea Zone to South Australia Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Australia to South Australia Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from South Australia Sea Zone to South Compass Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from West Canada to East Canada Place Units - British 1 carrier and 1 transport placed in North Sea Zone Turn Complete - British British collect 26 PUs; end with 32 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Well, now I know the route from Karelia to Italy
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 2
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Classic
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 armour, 5 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to French Indo China Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to East Indies Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from East Indies to East Indies Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from East Indies Sea Zone to West Australia Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from West Australia Sea Zone to Australia Japanese take Australia from British 1 transport moved from Japan Sea Zone to Wake Island Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Wake Island to Wake Island Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Wake Island Sea Zone to Japan Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Japan Sea Zone to Manchuria 2 infantry moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from Japan Sea Zone to Soviet Far East Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Soviet Far East Sea Zone to Soviet Far East Japanese take Soviet Far East from Russians 2 fighters moved from Hawaii Sea Zone to West Panama Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from Hawaii Sea Zone to West Panama Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from China to Sinkiang Japanese take Sinkiang from Americans 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to India 1 fighter moved from Wake Island to Manchuria 1 battleship moved from Hawaii Sea Zone to West Panama Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Manchuria 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to India Combat - Japanese Battle in Manchuria Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Manchuria, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Manchuria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Manchuria Japanese win, taking Manchuria from Russians with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in India Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in India, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in India, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in India 1 infantry owned by the British lost in India Japanese win, taking India from British with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in West Panama Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 battleships and 2 fighters Americans defend with 1 battleship and 1 transport Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships and 2 fighters in West Panama Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 transport in West Panama Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Americans and 1 battleship owned by the Americans lost in West Panama Sea Zone Japanese win with 2 battleships and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 32 Casualties for Americans: 1 battleship and 1 transport Non Combat Move - Japanese 2 fighters moved from West Panama Sea Zone to Hawaii Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Wake Island Sea Zone to Borneo Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Manchuria to China 1 fighter moved from Manchuria to French Indo China 1 armour moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 transport moved from Japan Sea Zone to French Indo China Sea Zone 1 armour moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 fighter moved from India to China 3 infantry moved from China to French Indo China 1 bomber moved from India to French Indo China 1 infantry moved from China to French Indo China Place Units - Japanese 1 armour and 5 infantry placed in Japan 1 transport placed in Japan Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -0.83 Japanese regular : 2.83 Russians regular : -0.33 British regular : 0.67 -
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to West Panama Sea Zone 1 carrier and 2 transports moved from East US Sea Zone to West Panama Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from East Canada to West Panama Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in West Panama Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 2 transports Japanese defend with 2 battleships Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 2 transports in West Panama Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships in West Panama Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits 2 battleships owned by the Japanese lost in West Panama Sea Zone Americans win with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 48 Casualties for Japanese: 2 battleships Non Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from West Panama Sea Zone to Panama 1 aaGun moved from Mexico to Panama 2 infantry moved from West Canada to West US 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 carrier and 2 transports placed in East US Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 32 PUs; end with 34 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.67 Japanese regular : -1.33 -
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 armour and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Novosibirsk: 2 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Yakut S.S.R.: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Novosibirsk: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R. 2 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R. Combat - Russians Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 2 armour and 1 infantry moved from Finland Norway to Karelia S.S.R. 3 armour moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia 1 armour moved from Caucasus to Russia 2 fighters moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Karelia S.S.R. Place Units - Russians 1 armour and 3 infantry placed in Russia 6 infantry placed in Karelia S.S.R. Russians undo move 2. 2 infantry placed in Karelia S.S.R. 2 infantry placed in Russia 1 infantry placed in Karelia S.S.R. 1 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 27 PUs; end with 27 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Yeah tbh sacking the Japanese BB was not a great move that will probably come to haunt you later in the game
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What was bad was withdrawing the sub to try and gain a space
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