VF (Germany) vs. Ragnell (Allies) | Original Europe with Balance 2.0, Game 11


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 9 armour; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 destroyer moved from British Convoy 2 Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone
                  Germans take U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone from Americans
            2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland
            2 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
            9 armour, 2 artilleries and 21 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
            1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Bessarabia to East Poland
            1 bomber moved from Finland to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 fighter moved from Germany to Baltic States
            2 fighters moved from Finland to Baltic States
            2 fighters moved from Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in East Poland
                Germans attack with 9 armour, 6 artilleries and 28 infantry
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 9 armour, 6 artilleries and 28 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 10/43 hits, 12,17 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Poland
                    2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Poland
                Germans win, taking East Poland from Russians with 9 armour, 6 artilleries and 27 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Germans win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -9
                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Battle in Baltic States
                Germans attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 3 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1,83 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                    2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                    Germans roll dice for 3 fighters in Baltic States, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                Germans win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -9
                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
            Battle in Libya
                Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Libya, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Libya, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Libya
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Libya
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Libya, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 fighter in Libya, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Libya
                    1 artillery owned by the British and 1 armour owned by the British lost in Libya
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Libya, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter in Libya, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Libya
                    1 fighter owned by the British lost in Libya
                British win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 fighters moved from Baltic States to Germany
            1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Poland
            1 artillery and 18 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Poland
            1 aaGun moved from Poland to East Poland
    
        Place Units - Germans
            9 armour placed in Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 39 PUs; end with 39 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Russians regular : 3,00
    Germans regular : -3,00
    British regular : 0,33
    

    Savegame


  • @Ragnell804

    The risk did not pay off… in fact it backfired and I had to eat two fighter deaths because of Russian infantry fire… 😣


  • I normally don’t do that type of stuff but because I was already a bit behind in terms of TUV I risked to bring the numbers a bit back up… but instead they skyrocketed downwards lol.


  • @VictoryFirst

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            2 infantry moved from Karelia to Finland
            8 armour moved from Leningrad to Finland
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Leningrad to Finland
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Finland
                Russians attack with 8 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 5 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 8 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Finland, round 2 : 3/12 hits, 5.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 5 infantry in Finland, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Finland
                    3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Finland
                    Russians roll dice for 8 armour, 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Finland, round 3 : 4/10 hits, 5.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Finland, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Finland
                Russians win, taking Finland from Germans with 8 armour, 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 5 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 aaGun moved from Belorussia to Stalingrad
            1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Baltic States
            4 artilleries and 25 infantry moved from Belorussia to Leningrad
            1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Belorussia
            1 aaGun moved from Karelia to Russia
            1 aaGun moved from Archangel to Karelia
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Karelia to Leningrad
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Finland to Leningrad
            1 armour and 1 transport moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to Atlantic Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Russians
            3 infantry placed in Stalingrad
            5 infantry placed in Leningrad
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Baltic States: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Leningrad: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 24 PUs; end with 24 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : -0.33
    Russians regular : -3.67
    

  • @VictoryFirst

    Yeah you went from bad to worse that turn


  • @VictoryFirst

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 destroyer moved from British Convoy 3 Sea Zone to British Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                  British take British Convoy 2 Sea Zone from Germans
            1 armour moved from United Kingdom to Atlantic Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 transport moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to Norwegian Sea Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Norwegian Sea Sea Zone to Norway
                  British take Norway from Germans
            1 transport moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium
                  British take Netherlands-Belgium from Germans
            1 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
                  British take Bulgaria from Germans
            1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from Central Mediterranean Sea Zone to Western Mediterranean Sea Zone
    
        Combat - British
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 armour moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 destroyer moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from British Convoy 4 Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Karelia to Leningrad
            2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Stalingrad
    
        Place Units - British
            1 transport placed in Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :


  • @VictoryFirst

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 4 artilleries, 2 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 transport moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to France
                  Americans take France from Germans
            1 destroyer moved from British Convoy 1 Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to South Atlantic Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Morocco
                  Americans take Morocco from Germans
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber and 2 destroyers
                Germans defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 destroyers in U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 bomber and 2 destroyers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            2 artilleries moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from United States to United Kingdom
            2 artilleries, 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            2 artilleries moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 bomber moved from U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
    
        Place Units - Americans
            4 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in United States
            3 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -0.67
    Germans regular : -0.50
    

    Allies 3.tsvg


  • @VictoryFirst said in VF (Germany) vs. Ragnell (Allies) | Original Europe with Balance 2.0, Game 11:

    @Ragnell804

    The risk did not pay off… in fact it backfired and I had to eat two fighter deaths because of Russian infantry fire… 😣

    To be fair, the dice gods gave you a chance to call off the attacks when it was just your ftrs left.


  • @Ragnell804

    Heh heh yeah, but I was too greedy as I wanted to kill of your remaining Russian infantry too. 😅 Still, we can learn from this game because we have the numbers that give us a sense how far this game is from what an average game would be.


  • TUV Differential / Net TUV Round 3
    After G3
    Eastern Front: -39.4 / -26
    Atlantic/WA: -8.77/ +27
    Africa/Med: -4.63 / -8
    Total: -52.80 / -7

    After Allied3
    Eastern Front: -39.48 / -35
    Atlantic/WA: -15.33 / +15
    Africa/Med: -4.63 / -8
    Total: -59.44 / -28

    This is now even worse than my current game against TGC on the TripleA Forum, which I thought would be the worst game.


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 4

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

    Game History

    Round: 4
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 armour moved from East Poland to Baltic States
                  Germans take Baltic States from Russians
            1 armour moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
            8 armour, 6 artilleries and 27 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Belorussia
                Germans attack with 9 armour, 6 artilleries and 27 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 9 armour, 6 artilleries and 27 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 12/42 hits, 12,00 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia
                Germans win, taking Belorussia from Russians with 9 armour, 6 artilleries and 27 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 aaGun moved from East Poland to Belorussia
            1 artillery and 18 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
            9 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
            1 fighter moved from Poland to East Poland
            1 bomber moved from Poland to Germany
    
        Place Units - Germans
            13 infantry placed in Germany
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Germany: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to East Poland: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Russians regular : -0,33
    Germans regular : 0,00
    

    Savegame


  • @VictoryFirst

    I really dont know why i keep doing this moving to Leningrad and giving you the inside track to Moscow. I feel like I should’ve learned from my first 4 times doing this.


  • @Ragnell804 said in VF (Germany) vs. Ragnell (Allies) | Original Europe with Balance 2.0, Game 11:

    @VictoryFirst

    I really dont know why i keep doing this moving to Leningrad and giving you the inside track to Moscow. I feel like I should’ve learned from my first 4 times doing this.

    By this I mean stupid mistake lol


  • @Ragnell804

    I had to laugh out loud when I noticed that, and even more so after reading your comment 🤣 Sixth times the charm!

    We can go again after this. Right now I am mostly interested in a game where the TUV differential is as close to 0 as possible - and then look what the odds for a German win are. However I must say, now that the main move of my German opener - attacking Ukraine - is not viable anymore, I kinda have to go back to the drawing board and test some new G1 strategies. I feel like at this point withdrawing from the EF combats is better to avoid painful Russian counter-attacks. In any case, I think we need at least 5 more games to see if Europe is balanced now.

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