TGC (German) vs. Kwas/Doman (Allies) - Original Europe


  • @kwaspek104

    apologies - I baby brained my sub move. It was supposed to attack the destroyer with the German fighters out of Netherlands.

    sub [dice 1d6]
    fighters [dice 2d6]

    destroyer [dice 1d6]


  • 1d6: 1
    2d6: 2, 4
    1d6: 2



  • Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Removing units owned by British from United States: 1 armour
                EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Canada: 1 armour
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 artillery moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 bomber moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 artillery moved from Belorussia to Baltic States
            1 fighter moved from Karelia to Baltic States
            1 infantry moved from Karelia to Finland
                  Russians take Finland from Germans
            1 transport moved from Barents Sea Sea Zone to White Sea Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Karelia to White Sea Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from White Sea Sea Zone to Barents Sea Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Barents Sea Sea Zone to Norway
                  Russians take Norway from Germans
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 bomber in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Russians win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Battle in Baltic States
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 1 fighter
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 fighter in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                Russians win, taking Baltic States from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from North Atlantic Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to British Convoy 4 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Changing ownership of British Convoy 4 Sea Zone from Germans to British
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            3 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Belorussia
            3 infantry moved from Russia to Belorussia
            1 artillery moved from Russia to Belorussia
            9 infantry moved from Leningrad to Belorussia
            1 infantry moved from Karelia to Leningrad
            1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
    
        Place Units - Russians
            7 infantry placed in Leningrad
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 26 PUs; end with 27 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : -0.33
    Russians regular : 0.83
    

  • Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Germany
    
        Combat - British
            Strategic bombing raid in Germany
                    Germans roll AA dice in Germany : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 bomber owned by the British killed by AA in Germany
                Bombing raid costs 0 PUs
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            2 fighters moved from Leningrad to Belorussia
            1 armour moved from Syria to Caucasus
            2 infantry moved from Iran to Caucasus
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Syria to Iran
            1 destroyer moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to Atlantic Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from United Kingdom: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Leningrad: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Canada: 1 armour
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Davis Strait Sea Zone: 1 armour
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 fighter placed in United Kingdom
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 20 PUs; end with 24 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans AA : 0.83
    

  • @The_Good_Captain

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Germany
            1 destroyer moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone
                  British take British Convoy 3 Sea Zone from Germans
    
        Combat - Americans
            Strategic bombing raid in Germany
                    Germans roll AA dice in Germany : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Bombing raid in Germany rolls: 2 and costs: 2 PUs.
                Bombing raid costs 2 PUs
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Leningrad: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 bomber moved from Germany to Belorussia
            1 fighter moved from Iceland to Finland
            2 fighters moved from United States to United Kingdom
            1 armour and 1 transport moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to North Atlantic Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to Atlantic Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Canada to United States
            1 aaGun moved from Canada to United States
    
        Place Units - Americans
            1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
            2 fighters placed in United States
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Finland: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 40 PUs; end with 40 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans AA : -0.17
    

    us-2.tsvg




  • @kwaspek104

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 8 armour and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            2 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 fighters moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
            1 armour moved from Libya to Palestine
                  Germans take Egypt from Middle_East
                  Germans take Palestine from Middle_East
            1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Crete to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone to Syria
                  Germans take Syria from Middle_East
            2 fighters moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Baltic States
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Ukraine S.S.R.
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Baltic States
                Germans attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 artillery
                    Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery
            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 artillery
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 fighters moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany
            1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Northern Italy
            1 battleship moved from Central Mediterranean Sea Zone to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Egypt
            19 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
            2 fighters moved from Baltic States to East Poland
            2 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Eastern France
            1 artillery and 16 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland
            1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary
    
        Place Units - Germans
            8 armour and 1 infantry placed in Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Russians regular : -0.67
    Germans regular : 0.67
    

    G3.tsvg



  • @kwaspek104

    Game History

    Round: 4
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 8 armour and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 artillery and 16 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
            1 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia
                  Germans take Belorussia from Russians
            1 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 armour moved from Palestine to Trans-Jordan
                  Germans take Trans-Jordan from Middle_East
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
                  Germans take Iraq from Middle_East
            1 infantry moved from Syria to Iran
                  Germans take Iran from Middle_East
            5 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
            4 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 armour moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 armour moved from East Poland to Baltic States
            4 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Germans attack with 1 armour and 14 infantry
                British defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 14 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 3/15 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 armour and 14 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Baltic States
                Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 16 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 artillery
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 16 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 4/18 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 16 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone: 1 battleship and 1 transport
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone: 1 battleship and 1 transport
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 infantry moved from Eastern France to Germany
            1 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland
            1 artillery moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
            5 infantry moved from East Poland to Baltic States
            2 artilleries moved from East Poland to Baltic States
            3 artilleries moved from East Poland to Baltic States
            2 infantry moved from East Poland to Baltic States
            10 armour moved from East Poland to Germany
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Palestine
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Germany
    
        Place Units - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Germany: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Eastern France: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Eastern France: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Germany: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from East Poland: 2 fighters
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Germany: 2 fighters
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from East Poland: 1 aaGun
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Ukraine S.S.R.: 1 aaGun
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            8 armour and 1 infantry were produced but were not placed
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 50 PUs; end with 50 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Russians regular : -0.67
    Germans regular : 0.50
    

    G4.tsvg forgot the transport battle

    G battleship and bomber

    [dice 2d6]
    uk transport [dice 1d6]


  • 2d6: 1, 6
    1d6: 1



  • @The_Good_Captain belo inf corrected

    usa4-edited.tsvg


  • @kwaspek104

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 16 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 14 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
            4 armour and 14 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia
            1 armour, 6 artilleries and 23 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
            1 bomber and 4 fighters moved from Germany to Belorussia
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Belorussia
                Germans attack with 6 armour, 7 artilleries, 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 51 infantry
                British defend with 4 fighters; Americans defend with 1 bomber and 3 fighters; Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 4 armour, 1 artillery and 47 infantry
                    Russians roll AA dice in Belorussia : 0/5 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 7 artilleries, 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 51 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 18/69 hits, 17.67 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 4 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 7 fighters and 47 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 22/60 hits, 22.17 expected hits
                    22 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia
                    17 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in Belorussia
                    Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 7 artilleries, 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 29 infantry in Belorussia, round 3 : 10/47 hits, 14.00 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 4 armour, 1 artillery, 7 fighters and 30 infantry in Belorussia, round 3 : 23/42 hits, 16.33 expected hits
                    23 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia
                    10 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia
                    Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 7 artilleries, 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 6 infantry in Belorussia, round 4 : 11/24 hits, 10.00 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 4 armour, 1 artillery, 7 fighters and 20 infantry in Belorussia, round 4 : 12/32 hits, 13.00 expected hits
                    6 artilleries owned by the Germans and 6 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia
                    11 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia
                    Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 4 fighters in Belorussia, round 5 : 9/12 hits, 6.00 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 4 armour, 1 artillery, 7 fighters and 9 infantry in Belorussia, round 5 : 11/21 hits, 9.33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Germans, 4 fighters owned by the Germans and 6 armour owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia
                    9 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia
                1 bomber owned by the Germans retreated
                Russians win with 4 armour, 1 artillery and 7 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -103
                Casualties for Germans: 6 armour, 7 artilleries, 4 fighters and 51 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 47 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            22 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
            1 bomber moved from Belorussia to Germany
            1 infantry moved from Eastern France to Germany
            1 aaGun moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Poland
            1 armour moved from Iraq to Syria
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Palestine to Syria
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone to Syria
    
        Place Units - Germans
            16 infantry placed in Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 42 PUs; end with 44 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Russians regular : 7.17
    Germans regular : 0.33
    Russians AA : -0.83
    

    G5.tsvg You won my “self inflicted” coin flip. GG.

    It was 92% Germany in Moscow without that error. I’m using this as exhibit 132 in “the game is severely imbalanced.” You wanted to run one again where Germany starts with 52, right? (and no SCA)


  • @The_Good_Captain I got this, more or less, btw. If you hadn’t moved the German tanks back to Berlin, I would’ve kept moving the British guys to Moscow. (And I’m assuming you bought an extra bomber.) I don’t know what the odds for Berlin would look like in this scenario, without those German fighters.

    This endgame scenario is something I would like to see more of. Who has the advantage if Allies can get Moscow to more or less 50% odds (or better) on G6? The Germans don’t HAVE to attack on G6. I still think you had a decent chance of winning even if you hadn’t attacked Belo on this turn. (I could be wrong about this lol)

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  • @kwaspek104 I can reupload the turn where I made the error and not make that error and see how it shakes out?


  • works for me @The_Good_Captain


  • @kwaspek104

    small NCM change to fix that wardrobe malfunction: shoulda.tsvg


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