TGC (CP) vs Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob, with RR rule, Game 3


  • @SuperbattleshipYamato

    Specifically, the CP navy kept America out of the war for far too long. USA really needs to move against Spain on turn 4 in my opinion. I go out of my way with the French navy (see the French video) to make sure the CP navy never have a chance and I recommend doing the same. Those few ships can be just awful for the Entente.

    Generally, I think you could stand to be a bit less aggressive with both France and Italy. They seem strong in the beginning but I noticed you traded a lot of territories for pieces that were worth more than what you gained. I sometimes send two infantries against a single defending infantry but generally let the enemy have their territories unless I’m really gonna make a move against them. And France and Italy just need to bulk up and not fight (okay, France can be a LITTLE bit aggressive on like turn 3/4 but be very careful). Bulk up and wait for the Americans to show up and reinforce their positions. And everyone just waits until the UK has bashed in the Ottomans You played UK just fine I think. Get in that capital sooner maybe - eat the cost so long as the counter attack wont kill you. (Though I accept that it was probably not realistic to do so until you did in this game - maybe a few more infantries instead of artilleries? That would help preserve some IPC if the CP counterattack in the capital).


  • @SuperbattleshipYamato said in TGC (CP) vs Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob, with RR rule, Game 3:

    @The_Good_Captain

    UK Turn 20 Complete.tsvg

    I’m not conceding yet, but I’ll admit it looks like I’m losing.

    What did I do wrong? What should I have done instead? Thank you!

    Also, there are no Ottomans so you’re clear for Italy/USA.


  • @The_Good_Captain

    Game History

    Round: 20
    
        Turn Complete - Ottomans
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :


  • @The_Good_Captain

    Game History

    Round: 20
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            1 battleship moved from SZ 8 to SZ 14
            1 cruiser moved from SZ 7 to SZ 14
    
        Combat Move - Italians
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :


  • @The_Good_Captain

    Game History

    Round: 20
    
        Puchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 artillery and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 6 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            2 transports moved from SZ 8 to SZ 2
            1 transport moved from SZ 15 to SZ 2
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ireland to SZ 3
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 3 to SZ 7
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from SZ 7 to Spain
            3 battleships moved from SZ 1 to SZ 14
            1 submarine moved from SZ 1 to SZ 14
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in Spain
                Americans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                AustroHungarians defend with 1 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Spain, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    AustroHungarians roll dice for 1 infantry in Spain, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                AustroHungarians and Americans reach a stalemate
    
        Combat Move - Americans
    
        Place Units - Americans
            1 artillery and 4 infantry placed in United States of America
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 20 PUs; end with 26 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -1.33
    AustroHungarians regular : -0.50
    


  • @The_Good_Captain

    Thanks for the advice!


  • @SuperbattleshipYamato

    Game History

    Round: 21
    
        Puchase Units - AustroHungarians
            AustroHungarians buy 4 fighters, 10 infantry and 2 tanks; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - AustroHungarians
            3 units repaired.
            12 infantry moved from Serbia to Bulgaria
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tank moved from Albania to Serbia
            4 fighters moved from Vienna to Serbia
            10 artilleries, 1 fighter, 13 infantry and 3 tanks moved from Bordeaux to Spain
            5 infantry moved from Burgundy to Lorraine
            1 fighter moved from Burgundy to Lorraine
            2 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                  AustroHungarians take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British
            1 transport moved from SZ 19 to SZ 18
            2 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste
            10 infantry moved from Vienna to Galicia
            1 transport moved from SZ 19 to SZ 28
            2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to SZ 28
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 28 to SZ 27
            2 infantry moved from SZ 27 to Somaliland
                  AustroHungarians take Somaliland from Italians
            2 infantry moved from Trieste to SZ 18
            2 infantry moved from SZ 18 to Tuscany
            16 infantry moved from Trieste to Serbia
            2 infantry moved from Tuscany to Piedmont
            1 artillery moved from Tuscany to Piedmont
    
        Combat - AustroHungarians
            Battle in Spain
                AustroHungarians attack with 10 artilleries, 1 fighter, 14 infantry and 3 tanks
                Americans defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                    AustroHungarians roll dice for 10 artilleries, 1 fighter, 14 infantry and 3 tanks in Spain, round 2 : 13/28 hits, 14.33 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Spain, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Units damaged: 2 tanks owned by the AustroHungarians
                    2 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 artillery owned by the Americans lost in Spain
                AustroHungarians win, taking Spain from Americans with 10 artilleries, 1 fighter, 14 infantry and 3 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Battle in Lorraine
                AustroHungarians attack with 1 fighter and 5 infantry
                French defend with 1 infantry
                    AustroHungarians roll dice for 1 fighter and 5 infantry in Lorraine, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 infantry in Lorraine, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians and 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Lorraine
                AustroHungarians win, taking Lorraine from French with 1 fighter and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for AustroHungarians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry
    
        Combat Move - AustroHungarians
    
        Place Units - AustroHungarians
            4 fighters, 10 infantry and 2 tanks placed in Vienna
    
        Turn Complete - AustroHungarians
            AustroHungarians collect 71 PUs; end with 71 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : 0.50
    French regular : 0.50
    AustroHungarians regular : -2.33
    

  • @SuperbattleshipYamato

    Game History

    Round: 21
    
        Puchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 11 infantry and 3 tanks; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            6 units repaired.
            1 infantry moved from Persia to Mesopotamia
                  Germans take Mesopotamia from British
            11 artilleries and 17 infantry moved from Persia to Sevastopol
            2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Sevastopol
            2 infantry moved from Galicia to Ukraine
            3 infantry moved from Berlin to Silesia
            2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 tank moved from Hanover to Ruhr
            2 infantry moved from Kiel to Ruhr
            1 infantry moved from Burgundy to Picardy
                  Germans take Picardy from French
            10 infantry moved from Munich to Switzerland
            1 infantry moved from Silesia to Poland
            1 artillery moved from Silesia to Poland
            1 infantry moved from Silesia to Galicia
            2 fighters moved from Munich to Belgium
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Belgium
                Germans attack with 2 fighters and 10 infantry
                French defend with 2 artilleries and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 10 infantry in Belgium, round 2 : 3/12 hits, 4.00 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Belgium, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the French and 2 artilleries owned by the French lost in Belgium
                Germans win, taking Belgium from French with 2 fighters and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for French: 2 artilleries and 1 infantry
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            12 infantry moved from Berlin to Hanover
            1 fighter moved from Berlin to Silesia
            1 fighter moved from Silesia to Galicia
            3 battleships moved from SZ 16 to SZ 17
    
        Place Units - Germans
            11 infantry and 3 tanks placed in Berlin
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 58 PUs; end with 60 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    French regular : 0.50
    Germans regular : -1.00
    

    G21.tsvg


  • @The_Good_Captain

    Game History

    Round: 21
    
        Puchase Units - French
            French buy 1 artillery and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from Paris to Bordeaux
                  French take Bordeaux from AustroHungarians
    
        Combat - French
    
        Combat Move - French
    
        Place Units - French
            1 artillery and 5 infantry placed in Paris
    
        Turn Complete - French
            French collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :


  • @The_Good_Captain

    Game History

    Round: 21
    
        Puchase Units - British
            British buy 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 10 infantry and 1 tank; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from India: 2 fighters
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Arabia: 2 fighters
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            3 fighters moved from Arabia to Ankara
            1 infantry moved from Syrian Desert to Trans-Jordan
                  British take Trans-Jordan from Ottomans
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Syrian Desert to Trans-Jordan
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tank moved from Syrian Desert to Mesopotamia
            4 artilleries, 16 infantry and 2 tanks moved from India to Persia
                  British take Persia from Germans
            2 infantry moved from Syrian Desert to Mesopotamia
            1 cruiser moved from SZ 8 to SZ 22
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in Mesopotamia
                British attack with 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 tank
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 tank in Mesopotamia, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Mesopotamia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 tank owned by the British
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Mesopotamia
                British win, taking Mesopotamia from Germans with 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 tank remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
    
        Combat Move - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by French from Constantinople: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by French to Ankara: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            10 artilleries, 1 fighter and 10 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara
            1 battleship moved from SZ 8 to SZ 14
            5 fighters moved from Ankara to Syrian Desert
            5 fighters moved from Syrian Desert to Ankara
            1 fighter moved from Ankara to Syrian Desert
            1 fighter moved from Syrian Desert to Ankara
            2 fighters moved from Ankara to Syrian Desert
            2 fighters moved from Syrian Desert to Ankara
    
        Place Units - British
            1 artillery, 2 fighters, 10 infantry and 1 tank placed in India
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 54 PUs; end with 54 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : 0.50
    British regular : -1.00
    

  • @The_Good_Captain

    Game History

    Round: 21
    
        Turn Complete - Ottomans
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :


  • @The_Good_Captain

    Game History

    Round: 21
    
        Combat Move - Italians
                    AustroHungarians roll mine dice in SZ 16 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    AustroHungarians roll mine dice in SZ 17 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
            1 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from SZ 14 to SZ 17
    
        Combat - Italians
            Battle in SZ 17
                Italians attack with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
                Germans defend with 3 battleships; AustroHungarians defend with 1 mines and 1 submarine
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in SZ 17, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Units damaged: 2 battleships owned by the Germans
                    Germans roll dice for 3 battleships and 1 submarine in SZ 17, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                    1 cruiser owned by the Italians and 1 battleship owned by the Italians lost in SZ 17
                Germans win with 3 battleships and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is -21
                Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
    
        Combat Move - Italians
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians regular : 0.83
    AustroHungarians mine : -0.67
    Germans regular : 0.67
    

  • @The_Good_Captain

    Game History

    Round: 21
    
        Puchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 7 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
                    AustroHungarians roll mine dice in SZ 16 : 0/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    AustroHungarians roll mine dice in SZ 17 : 0/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits
            3 battleships and 1 submarine moved from SZ 14 to SZ 17
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in SZ 17
                Americans attack with 3 battleships and 1 submarine
                Germans defend with 3 battleships; AustroHungarians defend with 1 mines and 1 submarine
                    Americans roll dice for 3 battleships and 1 submarine in SZ 17, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                    Germans roll dice for 3 battleships and 1 submarine in SZ 17, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Units damaged: 2 battleships owned by the Americans
                    1 battleship owned by the Germans and 1 submarine owned by the AustroHungarians lost in SZ 17
                    Americans roll dice for 3 battleships and 1 submarine in SZ 17, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 battleships in SZ 17, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans
                    1 battleship owned by the Germans lost in SZ 17
                    Americans roll dice for 3 battleships and 1 submarine in SZ 17, round 4 : 1/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in SZ 17, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 battleship owned by the Germans and 1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in SZ 17
                Americans win with 3 battleships remaining. Battle score for attacker is 36
                Casualties for AustroHungarians: 1 submarine
                Casualties for Germans: 3 battleships
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            3 transports moved from SZ 2 to SZ 1
            1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from United States of America to SZ 1
            1 transport moved from SZ 7 to SZ 1
            1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from SZ 1 to SZ 2
            1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from SZ 2 to Canada
    
        Place Units - Americans
            1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in United States of America
            1 transport placed in SZ 1
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 20 PUs; end with 27 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -2.00
    AustroHungarians mine : -1.33
    Germans regular : -0.33
    


  • @SuperbattleshipYamato I cannot accept the way you dispersed hits on the CP ships relative to how you allocated hits made on your own forces on the naval battle in SZ17.

    Why did you do this?


  • @The_Good_Captain

    I mean, I assume that if you have battleships you have each of them take a hit first, then work your way from the cheapest to most expensive.

    Unless I’ve been playing battleship theory completely wrong this whole time?


  • @SuperbattleshipYamato Right, but that’s not what happened according to the history. It states that you selected hits in a way that sank whole battleships first.

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  • @SuperbattleshipYamato said in TGC (CP) vs Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob, with RR rule, Game 3:

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -2.00
    AustroHungarians mine : -1.33
    Germans regular : -0.33
    

    Also, the TUV doesn’t make any sense. How could the USA score -2 while the Germans score -.33 when both sides have the exact same pieces and piece count (eg 3 battleships and 1 sub vs 3 battleships and 1 sub)?


  • @The_Good_Captain said in TGC (CP) vs Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob, with RR rule, Game 3:

    Also, the TUV doesn’t make any sense. How could the USA score -2 while the Germans score -.33 when both sides have the exact same pieces and piece count (eg 3 battleships and 1 sub vs 3 battleships and 1 sub)?

    And yet there are three USA battleships remaining… ?

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