• The old line comes back:

    “In every focus group, people say they don’t want to see anymore negativity on television. But they remember each piece of negative advertising perfectly, and fail to recall specifics about the positive”


  • @Yanny:

    The old line comes back:

    “In every focus group, people say they don’t want to see anymore negativity on television. But they remember each piece of negative advertising perfectly, and fail to recall specifics about the positive”

    Hmm…

    Democratic candidates promote themselves on TV campaign ads.
    Republican candidates belittle/attack their Democratic opponents in their ads. 
    I understand now.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @frimmel:

    My problem is the media spends a lot of time telling you how to feel and how others feel and very little time supplying you with facts.
    They also try very hard to be the first one with the story (with or without accurate facts) instead of the first one with the correct and accurate facts.

    @Jennifer:

    Which is why you hear of children blowing up in Iraq, but not US Soldiers building schools and hospitals for those same children.

    Buildings don’t bleed. Also, reporting these actions might actually get support for the war by the people and thus the media won’t report it.

    Begs the question of what the children attending these schools will be taught doesn’t it?

    Dunno what they are taught.  We were told to build it, not teach in it.  I suspect they’re taught math, reading, writing, maybe some social studies, probably religious teachings out of the Quran, etc.  But that’s up to the Iraqi Board of Education.

    And I love all the lies that the media has been caught in!

    Bush’s alleged AWOL documentation (turns out was paint shopped on someone’s computer)
    Jon Bonet’s killer (which turns out it couldn’t have been him and it isn’t his DNA)
    Karl Rove (which turns out it wasn’t him, but rather Armitage!)

    I fully expect it to leek out in non-AP related medias that Katrina was actually a force of nature, not a secret weapon Bush commissioned in the basement of the Pentagon and that, believe it or not, US Soldiers are actually honorable people struggling to promote a social order in a foreign land that won’t continue the traditional woman beating, torture and tyranny that has come to be expected from those lands.

    Gee, wouldn’t it be wonderful if we actually got the truth from the news media instead of propaganda designed to further their own agendas?  Common.  Just give me a week!  I’m sure that’s all it would take to actually get the 6 oclock news some ratings again!

    Seriously, you know you’re in the rating toilet if more people watch reruns of Seinfeld or Friends then your news program!  That’s gotta tell you something!

  • 2007 AAR League

    it was armitage?!  Liberal dickweeds, thought they had rove huh, once again their stupidity and brashness are above me.  Are they all like the crowd sheep who hiss like evil serpents on the daily show.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Yea.  Armitage went to Powell and confessed before they were even hunting Rove.  Powell covered it up because, allegedly, by releasing that information it would jeapordize something else and they knew Rove couldn’t be convicted of it…

    Dunno about that.  But they have video testamony from Armitage admitting he accidentally let Valerie’s name leak to his contact in the press.  It was supposed to be an off the record meeting at a bar to shoot the sh@t, but you know how the press is!

    So basically, the press KNEW it wasn’t Rove the entire time and decided to slander him anyway to get at the White House.


  • @Jennifer:

    And I love all the lies that the media has been caught in!

    Bush’s alleged AWOL documentation (turns out was paint shopped on someone’s computer)
    Jon Bonet’s killer (which turns out it couldn’t have been him and it isn’t his DNA)
    Karl Rove (which turns out it wasn’t him, but rather Armitage!)

    #1 - There has been testimony from AF officers saying that Bush was absent for periods of time during his “service.”  Priviliged families get extra special care, I suppose.  Besides, aren’t your files in the armed forces semi-confidential?
    #2 - How was this a lie?  None of the evidence supported Karr’s claim (it was obvious to anyone paying attention), but the DA from Colorado couldn’t take a chance.  They can still get him on child pornography charges in Cali.  The media, of course, turned it into a circus, but when DON’T they do that?
    #3 - Hadn’t heard this, I’ll have to look it up.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @Jermofoot:

    @Jennifer:

    And I love all the lies that the media has been caught in!

    Bush’s alleged AWOL documentation (turns out was paint shopped on someone’s computer)
    Jon Bonet’s killer (which turns out it couldn’t have been him and it isn’t his DNA)
    Karl Rove (which turns out it wasn’t him, but rather Armitage!)

    #1 - There has been testimony from AF officers saying that Bush was absent for periods of time during his “service.”  Priviliged families get extra special care, I suppose.  Besides, aren’t your files in the armed forces semi-confidential?
    #2 - How was this a lie?  None of the evidence supported Karr’s claim (it was obvious to anyone paying attention), but the DA from Colorado couldn’t take a chance.  They can still get him on child pornography charges in Cali.  The media, of course, turned it into a circus, but when DON’T they do that?
    #3 - Hadn’t heard this, I’ll have to look it up.

    #1  I said the DOCUMENTS were a lie.

    #2  They trumped up the story on Karr to create a circus of their own making, thus lied to the people

    #3  Yup.  Came out last weekend, should be easy enough to find stories on.  Basically, Armitage, no friend of the President and a blabber mouth in DC, leaked Val’s name to his friend.

    Remember, we’re not talking the democratic party, we’re talking about times the press has lied to the American people, in recent history (ie since Bush took office the first time) to further their own agenda, which is to re-elect democrats to power.


  • If you do not like CNN or MSNBC, then watch FOX.

  • 2007 AAR League

    the democratic party and the media ARE linked.  Did everyone forget about how the journalists who are supposed to be “unbiased” met with some democratic office people and leaders on how to portray media events in the favor of democrats. IT was held behind closed doors with no mention of what was said inside.  The republicans knew this was bullcrap, but if ONLY fox news talks about it, many others are in the dark.  Then the people attending the meeting go and tell all their other liberal journalist and news friends, editors etc. on how to properly spin news coverage when wanted by the democrats.  Take that one liberal media, how many liberals know that their news is COMPLETELY BIASED.  cnn, abc, nbc, cbs, msnbc, bbc, all sorts of papers and magazines, time, nytimes, usa today, washington post, newsweek.  Weekend shows, night shows, morning shows, specials like 20/20 or 60 minutes, news on tv guide, mtv,  its terrible.  At least i got fox news. Â

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @balungaloaf:

    the democratic party and the media ARE linked.  Did everyone forget about how the journalists who are supposed to be “unbiased” met with some democratic office people and leaders on how to portray media events in the favor of democrats. IT was held behind closed doors with no mention of what was said inside.  The republicans knew this was bullcrap, but if ONLY fox news talks about it, many others are in the dark.  Then the people attending the meeting go and tell all their other liberal journalist and news friends, editors etc. on how to properly spin news coverage when wanted by the democrats.  Take that one liberal media, how many liberals know that their news is COMPLETELY BIASED.  cnn, abc, nbc, cbs, msnbc, bbc, all sorts of papers and magazines, time, nytimes, usa today, washington post, newsweek.  Weekend shows, night shows, morning shows, specials like 20/20 or 60 minutes, news on tv guide, mtv,  its terrible.  At least i got fox news.

    Loaf, you do know that all the sources you just listed regurgitate, almost word for word, the AP press releases, right?  I bet, if someone hacked the AP and sent a news release that stated all the Iraqi’s died today from a horrible plague created in American biological weapons labs it would run night and day for months.  Then, when it turns out they were hacked, it would quietly die and no retraction would ever be made.

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