1914 - TGC (CP) vs. VF (Entente), oob, no bid

@victoryfirst

“If a major power moves units into a minor neutral power’s capital territory, the invaded neutral power will mobilize forces against the invading force. Serious consideration should be given to which power will represent the mobilized forces. It can be any of the powers that are on the opposite side from the power that is performing the invasion. For example if Germany (Central Powers member) invaded Holland, one of the Allied players would place his or her infantry and artillery. It should also be noted that if Holland ends up being controlled by the Allies, the ally who originally mobilized in Holland would most likely gain Holland’s 2 IPCs if the territory ends up in his or her control.”

I wasn’t sure this would ever really matter but the UK invasion of Persia meant that I was supposed to declare Persia to mobilize Austrian, German or Ottoman pieces. It sounds like this is done before the combat round not that that matters much. Anyway, I will turn them into Ottoman pieces before starting my turn. You probably should decide which country the Danish will be mobilized by too.

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Game History

Round: 1

    Puchase Units - Ottomans
        Ottomans buy 1 fighter and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Ottomans
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Mesopotamia to Sevastopol
        1 infantry moved from Constantinople to Bulgaria
              Ottomans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Central

    Combat - Ottomans
        Battle in Sevastopol
            Ottomans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry and 1 port
                Ottomans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Sevastopol, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Sevastopol, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Sevastopol
            Ottomans win, taking Sevastopol from Russians with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Combat Move - Ottomans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_True from Persia: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Ottomans to Persia: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 infantry moved from Syrian Desert to Mesopotamia
        1 artillery moved from Persia to Mesopotamia
        1 infantry moved from Smyrna to Syrian Desert
        1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Ankara to Mesopotamia
        1 infantry moved from Persia to Mesopotamia
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara
        1 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara

    Place Units - Ottomans
        1 fighter and 3 infantry placed in Constantinople

    Turn Complete - Ottomans
        Ottomans collect 21 PUs; end with 22 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -0.50
Ottomans regular : -0.33

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@victoryfirst

first, the rules:

“All movement is considered to take place at the same time, and must be completed in this phase.” -page 17 (I have been bad at this, I will make sure I’m not using the NCM phase going forward)

and most importantly, this:

“Combat occurs when your units share the same space with units belonging to one or more opposing powers and you decide to commit your units to an attack. Only enemy units may be attacked. When attacking, all units in the space belonging to your power must attack. You are required to attack only in territories that have become contested this turn due to your movement of units into them. Attacks in territories that were already contested at the beginning of the turn and in sea zones are always optional, even if you have moved units into them this turn.”

In short, if you did not want to attack, you did not have to.

The practical fix for this in TripleA is the following: If you do not wish to attack in a contested territory, BEFORE any dice are rolled EDIT your units in the contested territory and make them all neutral. After the Combat phase, turn them all back into units of your side. That’s the only way to keep things in good faith as far as I can see.

So what did “Previous Units Fight” do…?..? lol

@victoryfirst the Americans are up now.

@victoryfirst

Game History

Round: 2

    Puchase Units - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians buy 2 fighters and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by AustroHungarians from Venice: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_True to Venice: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Venice to Trieste
        1 infantry moved from Serbia to Trieste
        1 infantry moved from Serbia to Trieste
        1 artillery moved from Serbia to Trieste
        1 infantry moved from Serbia to Trieste
        3 infantry moved from Galicia to Ukraine
        6 artilleries and 25 infantry moved from Galicia to Romania
        1 fighter moved from Vienna to Serbia
        1 fighter moved from Vienna to Serbia

    Combat - AustroHungarians
        Battle in Serbia
            AustroHungarians attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 3 infantry
            Neutral_Allied defend with 1 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Serbia, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                Neutral_Allied roll dice for 1 infantry in Serbia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allied lost in Serbia
            AustroHungarians win, taking Serbia from Neutral_Allied with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Neutral_Allied: 1 infantry
        Battle in Ukraine
            AustroHungarians attack with 3 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 3 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
            Russians and AustroHungarians reach a stalemate
        Battle in Romania
            AustroHungarians attack with 6 artilleries and 25 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 artillery and 6 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 6 artilleries and 25 infantry in Romania, round 2 : 14/31 hits, 12.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 6 infantry in Romania, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                6 infantry owned by the Russians, 2 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Romania
            AustroHungarians win, taking Romania from Russians with 6 artilleries and 23 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16
            Casualties for AustroHungarians: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 6 infantry

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_True from Venice: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by AustroHungarians to Venice: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        4 infantry moved from Vienna to Galicia

    Place Units - AustroHungarians
        2 fighters and 5 infantry placed in Vienna

    Turn Complete - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians collect 31 PUs; end with 32 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Neutral_Allied regular : -0.50
Russians regular : -2.00
AustroHungarians regular : -0.83

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@victoryfirst Understood about the “contested territories” but going forward, it really needs to be edited beforehand so no dice are rolled at all. We need to make “neutral” (or just delete) all our units in a contested zone that we DONT want to attack before rolling for combats. Afterwards, you edit the troops back.

PS - the edits for this save were bc I momentarily forgot that any land units/fighters must have an infantry present.

Game History

Round: 2

    Puchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 3 fighters and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        2 infantry moved from Poland to Galicia
        8 artilleries and 20 infantry moved from Silesia to Galicia
        9 infantry moved from Berlin to Silesia
        2 artilleries moved from Denmark to Kiel
        1 fighter moved from Denmark to Holland
        2 infantry moved from Kiel to Holland
        6 infantry moved from Ruhr to Holland
        3 artilleries moved from Belgium to Holland
        1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 2 submarines moved from SZ 10 to SZ 4
        1 fighter moved from Berlin to Hanover
        3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Belgium to Alsace
        1 infantry moved from Gold Coast to Togoland
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Angola to Rhodesia
              Germans take Rhodesia from British
        2 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Rhodesia

    Combat - Germans
        Germans creates battle in territory Denmark
        Battle in SZ 4
            Germans attack with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 4 submarines
            British defend with 2 cruisers
                Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 4 submarines in SZ 4, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 cruisers in SZ 4, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                1 submarine owned by the Germans and 2 cruisers owned by the British lost in SZ 4
            Germans win with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 3 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
            Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
            Casualties for British: 2 cruisers
        Battle in Denmark
            Germans attack with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Denmark, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Neutral_True roll dice for 1 infantry in Denmark, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Denmark
            Germans win, taking Denmark from Neutral_True with 2 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Battle in Holland
            Germans attack with 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry
            Neutral_True defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry in Holland, round 2 : 3/12 hits, 5.50 expected hits
                Neutral_True roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Holland, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Germans and 3 infantry owned by the Neutral_True lost in Holland
            Neutral_True and Germans reach a stalemate
            . Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Neutral_True: 3 infantry

    Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Hanover: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Silesia: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Silesia: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Kiel: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_True from Holland: 1 artillery
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Holland: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Place Units - Germans
        3 fighters and 9 infantry placed in Berlin

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : -1.50
Neutral_True regular : 0.50
British regular : 1.00

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@victoryfirst

Game History

Round: 2

    Puchase Units - Ottomans
        Ottomans buy 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Ottomans
        1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Ankara to Syrian Desert
        1 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara
        1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry moved from Constantinople to Smyrna
        2 infantry moved from Mesopotamia to Syrian Desert
        1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Constantinople

    Combat - Ottomans
        Battle in Smyrna
            Ottomans attack with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
            British defend with 2 artilleries and 1 infantry
                Ottomans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry in Smyrna, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 4.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Smyrna, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Ottomans, 2 artilleries owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Smyrna
            Ottomans win with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Ottomans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 2 artilleries and 1 infantry
        Battle in Syrian Desert
            Ottomans attack with 1 artillery and 6 infantry
            British defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Ottomans roll dice for 1 artillery and 6 infantry in Syrian Desert, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Syrian Desert, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Ottomans and 1 artillery owned by the British lost in Syrian Desert
            British and Ottomans reach a stalemate
            . Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for Ottomans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 artillery

    Combat Move - Ottomans

    Place Units - Ottomans
        1 artillery, 1 fighter and 4 infantry placed in Constantinople

    Turn Complete - Ottomans
        Ottomans collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Ottomans regular : -1.67
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Game History

Round: 3

    Puchase Units - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians buy 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        6 artilleries and 23 infantry moved from Romania to Sevastopol
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Serbia to Albania
        3 artilleries moved from Trieste to Albania
        1 fighter moved from Serbia to Albania
        4 infantry moved from Trieste to Albania
        1 infantry moved from Vienna to Tyrolia
        4 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste
        1 fighter moved from Vienna to Trieste
        1 fighter moved from Vienna to Budapest
        1 fighter moved from Serbia to Budapest
        1 infantry moved from Galicia to Budapest
        3 infantry moved from Galicia to Romania

    Combat - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians creates battle in territory Ukraine
        Battle in Ukraine
            AustroHungarians attack with 3 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 3 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians lost in Ukraine
            AustroHungarians win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for AustroHungarians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Albania
            AustroHungarians attack with 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 7 infantry
            Italians defend with 1 artillery and 4 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 7 infantry in Albania, round 2 : 6/12 hits, 6.00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Albania, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians, 1 artillery owned by the Italians and 4 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Albania
            AustroHungarians win, taking Albania from Italians with 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for AustroHungarians: 3 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 4 infantry
        Battle in Sevastopol
            AustroHungarians attack with 6 artilleries and 23 infantry
            Russians defend with 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 port
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 6 artilleries and 23 infantry in Sevastopol, round 2 : 10/29 hits, 11.67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Sevastopol, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Russians, 3 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians and 2 artilleries owned by the Russians lost in Sevastopol
            AustroHungarians win, taking Sevastopol from Russians with 6 artilleries and 20 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
            Casualties for AustroHungarians: 3 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 2 artilleries and 2 infantry

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians

    Place Units - AustroHungarians
        2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry placed in Vienna

    Turn Complete - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians collect 39 PUs; end with 39 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 0.50
Russians regular : 1.50
AustroHungarians regular : -0.67

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