What is going on with Infantry and arty paired to attack??

How many data points do you have? After a few hundreds of games, I’m at an average of 2 hits per 3 rolls by an Inf paired with an Art.

@nosho said in What is going on with Infantry and arty paired to attack??:

How many data points do you have? After a few hundreds of games, I’m at an average of 2 hits per 3 rolls by an Inf paired with an Art.

So you’ve created or accessed a program that pulls data from player games, and used that program to record “a few hundreds of games” worth of data?

Perhaps you’d share access to that program and/or dataset.

If you do actually have such a program but elect not to share it, that’s your business. But for purposes of discussion you understand absent such proofs you’re asking others to take you at your word.

@aardvarkpepper Recording the hits from my own games, of which I have hundreds. The PNRG is decent, our human brains aren’t in the face of randomness.

@aardvarkpepper said in What is going on with Infantry and arty paired to attack??:

But for purposes of discussion you understand absent such proofs you’re asking others to take you at your word.

Indeed, that is the expectation here, but we’ve beaten that dead horse plenty in another thread. Just like with anything else in the world of rational people, the burden of proof always lies with the person making claims going against the currently accepted/demonstrated knowledge, wisdom, or theories (in this case, the claim is that PNRG is departing from randomness in noticeable, predictable and persistent patterns).

So no program, no data, accepts no responsibility for doing any sort of work, just undermining others’ arguments with only “it must be right therefore it’s right”.

That isn’t “the world of rational people”, as you put it. That is the world of rationalizing people, though.

@aardvarkpepper said in What is going on with Infantry and arty paired to attack??:

So no program, no data, accepts no responsibility for doing any sort of work, just undermining others’ arguments with only “it must be right therefore it’s right”.

That isn’t “the world of rational people”, as you put it. That is the world of rationalizing people, though.

The average value of thousands of rolls, for each units, averages 3.5, I’m not too sure what more you want.

@nosho said in What is going on with Infantry and arty paired to attack??:

The average value of thousands of rolls, for each units, averages 3.5, I’m not too sure what more you want.

The. Data.

@aardvarkpepper said in What is going on with Infantry and arty paired to attack??:

@nosho said in What is going on with Infantry and arty paired to attack??:

The average value of thousands of rolls, for each units, averages 3.5, I’m not too sure what more you want.

The. Data.

Weird how people who claim PNRG is noticeably not random don’t need data to convince you, even though the burden of proof is on them, but me claiming the already know fact that PNRG is close-enough to perfect randomness for most practical purposes, including this game, need to show you data.

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@nosho said in What is going on with Infantry and arty paired to attack??:

Weird how people who claim PNRG is noticeably not random don’t need data to convince you

Since that isn’t my position at all, I’ll let you get on with arguing with yourself.

@nosho said in What is going on with Infantry and arty paired to attack??:

even though the burden of proof is on them

Which, again, it isn’t.

@nosho said in What is going on with Infantry and arty paired to attack??:

, but me claiming the already know fact that PNRG is close-enough to perfect randomness for most practical purposes, including this game, need to show you data.

Using your own method of argument that “data” is clearly fabricated.