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@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X+3) vs ksmckay (A) BM3:
Thanks for the challenge, @ksmckay! Hope for a good game!
Bid placement:
1 inf Hunan
Meant Kiangsi ofc.
and by that I am sure you meant kwangsi :)
ehh i suppose kiangsi would work too depending on what you are doing. so nevermind, sorry.
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 1
Purchase Units - Germans
Germans buy 1 armour, 1 carrier and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Politics - Germans
Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War
Combat Move - Germans
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Kiangsi: 1 infantry
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Norway to 111 Sea Zone
1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to France
1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
2 bombers moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
3 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
1 artillery, 3 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to France
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
Combat - Germans
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Scramble sz110/111?
@ksmckay said in L20 #1 trulpen (X+3) vs ksmckay (A) BM3:
ehh i suppose kiangsi would work too depending on what you are doing. so nevermind, sorry.
Yeah, Kwangsi is similar. Perhaps better since it’s more versatile.
111 please. bb hit, dd, ca, bb, ftr
Oh, my my. Your defensive dice were 100 %.
The other battles went better though, so I shouldn’t be very discontent. 2 lost figs does hurt though. ;)
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 1
Purchase Units - Germans
Germans buy 1 armour, 1 carrier and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Politics - Germans
Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War
Combat Move - Germans
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Kiangsi: 1 infantry
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Norway to 111 Sea Zone
1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to France
1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
2 bombers moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
3 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
1 artillery, 3 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to France
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
Combat - Germans
British scrambles 1 units out of Scotland to defend against the attack in 111 Sea Zone
Battle in 110 Sea Zone
Germans attack with 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers
British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser; French defend with 1 cruiser
Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/8 hits, 4,83 expected hits
British roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits
1 cruiser owned by the French, 2 submarines owned by the Germans, 1 cruiser owned by the British, 1 fighter owned by the Germans and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
Germans win with 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 2 submarines
Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
Casualties for French: 1 cruiser
Battle in 111 Sea Zone
Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,83 expected hits
Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/4 hits, 2,17 expected hits
Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
1 destroyer owned by the British, 2 submarines owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in 111 Sea Zone
1 battleship owned by the Germans retreated to 112 Sea Zone
British win with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -14
Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 2 submarines
Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
Battle in Yugoslavia
Germans attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry
Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry
Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 3/13 hits, 3,50 expected hits
Neutral_Allies roll dice for 5 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 1,67 expected hits
3 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Yugoslavia
2 artilleries owned by the Germans, 9 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Germans retreated to Romania
Neutral_Allies win with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 3 infantry
Battle in 106 Sea Zone
Germans attack with 1 submarine
British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 106 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 106 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 106 Sea Zone
1 transport owned by the British lost in 106 Sea Zone
Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 106 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
Germans win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
Battle in France
Germans attack with 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 7 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery; French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
AA fire in France : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 7 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in France, round 2 : 7/21 hits, 7,00 expected hits
French roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry in France, round 2 : 5/11 hits, 4,33 expected hits
1 aaGun owned by the French, 5 infantry owned by the Germans and 6 infantry owned by the French lost in France
Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 2 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in France, round 3 : 5/16 hits, 6,17 expected hits
French roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 fighter in France, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 2,33 expected hits
2 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 armour owned by the French, 1 fighter owned by the French, 1 artillery owned by the British, 1 armour owned by the British and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in France
Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital
Germans converts factory_major into different units
Germans win, taking France from French with 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 32
Casualties for Germans: 7 infantry
Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery
Moving scrambled unit from 111 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Scotland
Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French
triggerFrenchDestroyPUsGermans: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to French
Non Combat Move - Germans
3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
1 armour moved from Romania to Bulgaria
Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis
1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy
1 tactical_bomber moved from France to Western Germany
1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
1 tactical_bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis
2 bombers, 1 fighter and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
2 infantry moved from Denmark to 112 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Germany
Place Units - Germans
1 carrier placed in 112 Sea Zone
1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
Turn Complete - Germans
Germans collect 37 PUs; end with 56 PUs
Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs
Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans : -1,67
British : 2,50
AA fire in France : : -0,17
French : 0,33
Neutral_Allies : -1,67
@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X+3) vs ksmckay (A) BM3:
The other battles went better though, so I shouldn’t be very discontent. 2 lost figs does hurt though. ;)
you won 106, and france well enough. but yeah 110/111 not the best. I never go for 111 anymore, even without a bid. when 111 goes poorly and 106 is unsuccessful its a pretty rough start.
Maybe that’s wise. I like the strafe option with Bismarck though.
Strafing Yugo was a big success as well.
If you leave 111 alone, they have nowhere to go. They either flee to iceland in which case they are effectively gone until uk4 or they get sunk on g2. but i suppose that depends on when you like to DOW with japan.
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 1
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;
Combat Move - Russians
Combat - Russians
Non Combat Move - Russians
1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
6 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
6 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Bryansk
2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov
3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus
1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Belarus
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Belarus
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Novgorod
2 aaGuns and 1 artillery moved from Russia to Bryansk
1 aaGun moved from Novgorod to Belarus
Place Units - Russians
3 infantry placed in Ukraine
9 infantry placed in Russia
Turn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 38 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
oops, hold please
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 1
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;
Combat Move - Russians
Combat - Russians
Non Combat Move - Russians
1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
6 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
6 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Bryansk
2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov
3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus
1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Belarus
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Belarus
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Novgorod
2 aaGuns and 1 artillery moved from Russia to Bryansk
1 aaGun moved from Novgorod to Belarus
Place Units - Russians
3 infantry placed in Ukraine
9 infantry placed in Russia
Turn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 38 PUs
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Russia: 1 infantry
EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Novgorod: 1 infantry
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
@ksmckay said in L20 #1 trulpen (X+3) vs ksmckay (A) BM3:
If you leave 111 alone, they have nowhere to go. They either flee to iceland in which case they are effectively gone until uk4 or they get sunk on g2. but i suppose that depends on when you like to DOW with japan.
Sure, I’ll wait.
That’s true about the fleet. So you send 2 subs to sz106 and salvage the other? Being able to sink a dmg bs and des/cr with air is a bit less costly though than a bs, des and cr. With the extra des it’s also possible to hide with blockers in sz109, right?
Somehow I have atleast prefered to hit as much UK fleet as possible in G1. But as you say it’s a tad risky.