Axis Bids

Well, the great 8 Bid RR Sea Lion Scare bid has been shot to hell…  :evil:

I have another idea for a small RR bid, but it is approaching the range of “traditional”  RR bids.

In an RR game, I think 9-12 is what you need to even things out, high teens for unrestricted.  (yes, the folks on the board convinced me),

OK, talking revised now…

Don;t think the Axis needs a bid, if played well.

Russia is MUCH stronger in Revised than in Classic, but Germany and Japan have both been souped up to match, while UK only got a few extra boats, and the US is what it always was…

@trihero:

I dunno, I’ve been talking with a very good Revised player and he never will play the Axis unless he has a bid of 8 (1 inf in Libya 1 tank in Algeria).

That would tilt things heavilly toward the Axis in Africa…  and you can acchieve that same tilt, without a bid, via traditional Germany moves and Japan.

And if someone wants to give me 8 IPC’s as the Axis, I am going to put it somewhere other than Africa…

My first thought would be 1 ARM and 1 INF in FIC.

Second would be the same in Belorussia

Third would be same in either Eastern Europe, Ukraine of even Balkans.

I consider a bid of 8 ipc in units as rather well balanced. UKR & LIB are the areas of preference, depending on circumstances.

FIC is an interesting placement - however it only wins you IND. A placement in LIB can win you africa, and UKR placement saves a ftr + gives you more quick punch towards Russia.

Germany would be ready to rock and roll with an extra 8 in Africa…  They would benefit far more than giving the 8 to the Japanese since there is very little to check Japan in the long run in Asia.  The Germans would not need to pull troops from Europe to successfully assault Egypt(closing the Suez-sealing off the Indian fleet), and they’d be able to drop reinforcements to prevent an American counter in US1 in Algeria.  The Germans can go after the Brit BB in the Med with the BB prtotecting the planes(The BB isn’t needed to protect the transport against the Destroyer in the Med when amphibbing Egypt because the amphib isn’t necessary).  The sub could be used to sink the tranny in Canada, hamstrining the Brits efforts in Norway in GB1.  They could move both fleets together in G2… without sacrificing Africa.  And take 4 IPCs off the Brits in G2 as well…  Plus the rest of Africa in G3(would be enough to offset what is lost to US in US2)…  Even if the Allies are aggressive in the first round, there is no reason why Germany would be collecting less than 39IPCs(as opposed to 37) in round1, 42 in round 2, and 44 in round 3.  This almost guarantees that Germany will hang around no less than 7 rounds(more than likely 8 or 9)…  Long enough for Japan to strike down Moscow.

Wilk

@trihero:

I dunno, I’ve been talking with a very good Revised player and he never will play the Axis unless he has a bid of 8 (1 inf in Libya 1 tank in Algeria).