@Marshmallow:
@Charles:
Another problem is the fact that building in Romania means those units coudn’t help the West if necessary.
Sometimes building on Germany or even West Germany can kill two birds with one stone by giving adequate defense. On your next turn you move these to the Eastern Front and build another wave. There is no flexibillity with Romania.I don’t think arguing that Romania is not flexible is a really sound point. Germany already has major ICs in Germany and West Germany, and the minor in Paris in all but weird circumstances. Germany has plenty of flexibility in where it positions its builds, and adding Romania probably adds flexibility instead of subtracting it.
Once units are placed in Romania they don’t the ability to contribute to West Germany’s defense, but that is easily overcome by placing your units in the correct location!
Marsh
You are not getting my point. I am saying that building in Germany or even Western Germany does TWO things at the SAME time: it gives you a one turn defense or possible counteroffense in the West while at the same time giving you the option of sending those units East. So in words the same units are doing two things at once. Not totally optimal but it is a point against Romanian. I think I like the minor IC in Romanian better myself.
The thing about an IC in Romania is that you will use it for the first few German turns only. Yes it will help you somewhat to set up your Barbarossa, (or you could do some Caspian sea thing), but you can get similar results by just building units in Germany w/o spending the IPCs on an IC (spending more on units). Once you push into Russian territory you will use the Russian ICs, basically rendering an IC in Romania obsolete by the 4th-5th turn. Plus an IC built in Romania G1 (especially a major) is like the Brits breaking an intelligence code and they know exactly what you are doing (good bye Italian navy, and hello Egyptian IC).
If I’m going to spend IPCs on an IC I would wait until I have Western Ukraine (it should fall quickly), that way any units I build in W Ukraine and Ukraine could be with-in striking distance of Moscow. You don’t need more units to push into Russia, but you need more units to finish them off. That way if the allies fly a bunch of ftrs into Moscow you can build more units at the front, Romania isn’t going to help you in the later stages of your Moscow campaign. The only possible help a Romanian IC will give you later is if the allies try to come up though the Balkans mid game.
@WILD:
The thing about an IC in Romania is that you will use it for the first few German turns only. Yes it will help you somewhat to set up your Barbarossa, (or you could do some Caspian sea thing), but you can get similar results by just building units in Germany w/o spending the IPCs on an IC (spending more on units). Once you push into Russian territory you will use the Russian ICs, basically rendering an IC in Romania obsolete by the 4th-5th turn. Plus an IC built in Romania G1 (especially a major) is like the Brits breaking an intelligence code and they know exactly what you are doing (good bye Italian navy, and hello Egyptian IC).
If I’m going to spend IPCs on an IC I would wait until I have Western Ukraine (it should fall quickly), that way any units I build in W Ukraine and Ukraine could be with-in striking distance of Moscow. You don’t need more units to push into Russia, but you need more units to finish them off. That way if the allies fly a bunch of ftrs into Moscow you can build more units at the front, Romania isn’t going to help you in the later stages of your Moscow campaign. The only possible help a Romanian IC will give you later is if the allies try to come up though the Balkans mid game.
This makes a lot of sense
@WILD:
If I’m going to spend IPCs on an IC I would wait until I have Western Ukraine (it should fall quickly), that way any units I build in W Ukraine and Ukraine could be with-in striking distance of Moscow. You don’t need more units to push into Russia, but you need more units to finish them off. That way if the allies fly a bunch of ftrs into Moscow you can build more units at the front, Romania isn’t going to help you in the later stages of your Moscow campaign. The only possible help a Romanian IC will give you later is if the allies try to come up though the Balkans mid game.
When I did it, i ofcourse filled all of the w ukraine IC as soon as i got it as well. I also built a minor in rostow and once I had Rostow, ukraine and stalingrad, I produced 9 infs there every turn, keeping the russian bottled up in moscow, while using the infs/arts to release my more mobile elements to attack the middle east from the north. Persia and iraq should fall once you come crashing down wtih 40+ units. The brit could perhaps challenge this. if UK has the minor IC in iran, iraq and in egypt from UK2/3, they should be able to have a lot of units being able to trade cauc and nw persia for a few turns.
