1942.2 total vic. w/ int: Zombie69 (Axis) vs Commando Brado (Allies + 12)
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Pretty sure I’ll lose this one but let’s play it out for another round to see what happens. Do you want to start another game to coincide with this one? Same sides? Same bid? Or, I can play the Axis this time w/the bid we agreed to before. But regardless, will you give me another game w/me playing the Allies, same bid to try and redeem myself? :-D
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I’ll let you beat me up for another round on this one if you’re game?
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The whole idea behind me putting my 2 Brit AC’s w/4 FTR’s in SZ35 was to force you to either attack the American fleet in SZ58 or attack the Brit fleet in SZ35. From the odds calculator, you would have had to bring 3 of your FTR’s to the fleet battle in SZ35 w/all of your fleet, plus 1 FTR, 3 Bmbr’s to India, pretty much preventing you from doing both. Saving India. If your fleet did come down to SZ35, then I would have whacked them w/the American airforce. AND, India still would have been able to have been taken back w/the American tank in TJ, plus the bomber. Then, reinforced by the Brits in Persia. And, India could have built that turn. W/out any Japanese transports, plus the tanks coming down from Russia, I believe I could’ve held India. However, when you get amazing dicing like you did in India, it’s pretty hard to overcome those odds.
Actually, my 2 choices that made sense were 1) to do as I did and go without transports but with 6 planes or 2) to go with transports but without planes, taking India with a few guys left on it, destroying your fleet with everything that could reach while losing only a destroyer and 3 bombers. In that case, my fleet still survives your American attack since it’s intact except for one destroyer. The reason I went this route was that the other only gave me a 64% win rate in Russia (even though I end up with more troops on the ground there on average) and I really wanted to make sure that your Russian fighters died.
In hindsight, I would have done something slightly different w/the US. And, if I had left my fleet in SZ13, I would have left 4 FTR’s there instead of 2. Or, just moved my US fleet all together and taken Norway.
I could still destroy it even with 2 more fighters, or if you took Norway (in range of the 3 subs). As it is, I destroyed it easily and on average should have lost one less bomber than I did. Still, I had two bombers left. I made the mistake earlier of not leaving my planes in range and letting it move there, but now that they were in range, you had to get out. Your best move was to send 6 fighters and a bomber on my Med fleet, while retreating and building more fleet on the US East Coast.
Anyway, good game. Like I said, this is my first 1942.2 game, so there was a little bit of a learning curve.
In the marketplace forum, you said you played twice with your board game! :wink:
Wanna play again? :-D Same sides? Same bid?
Before we started the game, you suggested taking the Allies with 12 and letting me take them with 8 in the next game. Wanna try that instead? I need more work with my Allies, as the only 1942.2 game I’ve ever lost was with the Allies.
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I’ll let you beat me up for another round on this one if you’re game?
I think it’s a bit pointless as I’m not one to beat a dead horse. After one more round, you’d have no plane left anywhere in the world except the 4 off India (Germany drops on the one in Africa and could even take Brazil one turn later), the Russians don’t even have any tanks either (Persia gets annihilated with 1 INF, 4 ART, 1 TNK, 3 FGT, 3 BMB), there isn’t any allied fleet left in the Atlantic and no Pacific threat that Japan can’t easily handle. Germany plucks down 6 transports this turn and there’s nothing UK can do to keep me from taking London one turn later with as many as 8 INF, 6 TNK, 3 FGT, 2 BMB. In fact I’d have a 51% chance of taking it now, but why risk it when I can take it for sure one turn later?
I suggest we just start a new game and forget about this one quickly!
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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9
Game History
Round: 7
Purchase Units - Germans
Germans buy 1 artillery and 6 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;Combat Move - Germans
2 infantry moved from France to 14 Sea Zone
2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 14 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from 23 Sea Zone to French West Africa
1 fighter moved from 14 Sea Zone to French West Africa
1 battleship moved from 14 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from France to Caucasus
1 bomber moved from France to West Russia
2 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Caucasus
2 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to West Russia
1 artillery moved from Karelia S.S.R. to West Russia
2 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Archangel
1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Archangel
1 fighter moved from Germany to ArchangelCombat - Germans
Battle in Archangel
Germans attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry
Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 1/4 hits
Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 0/2 hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Archangel
Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Archangel, round 3 : 0/4 hits
Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Archangel, round 3 : 0/1 hits
Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Archangel, round 4 : 0/4 hits
Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Archangel, round 4 : 1/1 hits
1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel
Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Archangel, round 5 : 1/3 hits
Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Archangel, round 5 : 0/1 hits
1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Archangel
Germans win, taking Archangel from Russians with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Battle in West Russia
Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry
Russians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry in West Russia, round 2 : 0/4 hits
Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in West Russia, round 2 : 2/3 hits
2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in West Russia
1 artillery owned by the Germans retreated to Karelia S.S.R.
Russians win with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
Battle in Caucasus
Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 factory
Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/3 hits
Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/1 hits
1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Caucasus
Germans win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery
Battle in French West Africa
Germans attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
British defend with 1 fighter
Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in French West Africa, round 2 : 1/1 hits
British roll dice for 1 fighter in French West Africa, round 2 : 1/1 hits
1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in French West Africa
Germans win, taking French West Africa from British with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Casualties for British: 1 fighterNon Combat Move - Germans
1 fighter moved from French West Africa to 23 Sea Zone
1 carrier moved from 14 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Karelia S.S.R.
1 bomber moved from West Russia to Karelia S.S.R.
1 fighter moved from Archangel to Karelia S.S.R.
2 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia S.S.R.
9 armour moved from Belorussia to Karelia S.S.R.
2 infantry moved from Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Belorussia
1 infantry moved from Southern Europe to Bulgaria Romania
1 fighter moved from 14 Sea Zone to Northwestern Europe
2 aaGuns moved from France to Germany
1 submarine moved from 8 Sea Zone to 13 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
8 infantry moved from Germany to Baltic StatesPlace Units - Germans
6 transports placed in 5 Sea Zone
1 artillery placed in Karelia S.S.R.Turn Complete - Germans
Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUs totalTerritory Summary for Germans :
5 Sea Zone : 6 transports
8 Sea Zone : 2 submarines
13 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
23 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 transport
Archangel : 1 flag, 2 infantry
Baltic States : 8 infantry
Belorussia : 1 infantry
Bulgaria Romania : 1 infantry
Caucasus : 1 flag, 1 factory and 2 infantry
France : 2 infantry
French West Africa : 1 flag, 1 infantry
Germany : 2 aaGuns and 1 factory
Gibraltar : 1 flag
Italy : 1 factory
Karelia S.S.R. : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 9 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 1 factory, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
Northwestern Europe : 1 fighter
Poland : 1 infantry
Ukraine S.S.R. : 2 infantryProduction/PUs Summary :
Russians : 15 / 20
Germans : 44 / 44
British : 28 / 34
Japanese : 39 / 44
Americans : 42 / 41Dice Statistics:
Total
1 was rolled 3 times
2 was rolled 6 times
3 was rolled 8 times
4 was rolled 5 times
5 was rolled 7 times
6 was rolled 4 times
Average roll : 3.576
Median : 3.000
Variance : 0.594
Standard Deviation : 0.771
Total rolls : 33Germans Combat
1 was rolled 1 times
2 was rolled 5 times
3 was rolled 5 times
4 was rolled 4 times
5 was rolled 4 times
6 was rolled 4 times
Average roll : 3.739
Median : 4.000
Variance : 0.682
Standard Deviation : 0.826
Total rolls : 23British Combat
3 was rolled 1 times
Average roll : 3.000
Median : 3.000
Variance : ?
Standard Deviation : ?
Total rolls : 1Russians Combat
1 was rolled 2 times
2 was rolled 1 times
3 was rolled 2 times
4 was rolled 1 times
5 was rolled 3 times
Average roll : 3.222
Median : 3.000
Variance : 0.875
Standard Deviation : 0.935
Total rolls : 9 -
Here, I played the German turn just to give you a better picture of what I meant. :-D
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I could still destroy it even with 2 more fighters, or if you took Norway (in range of the 3 subs). As it is, I destroyed it easily and on average should have lost one less bomber than I did. Still, I had two bombers left. I made the mistake earlier of not leaving my planes in range and letting it move there, but now that they were in range, you had to get out. Your best move was to send 6 fighters and a bomber on my Med fleet, while retreating and building more fleet on the US East Coast.
Yes, you could have destroyed the US fleet w/2 more FTR’s. The idea would be to destroy more German airforce. But, the idea was all hands on deck to try and save India AND if Japan moved it’s fleet to the SZ off India, whack it with the 4 US FTR’s and 1 US SBR. And, if Japan didn’t move it’s fleet there, then I would have 4 US FTR’s to move into India if necessary. In hindsight, as discussed, it would have been better for me to move my fleet completely out of harms way, still allowing me to protect Britain if necessary, not attack Morocco at all and just attack Norway w/1 Trans, 2 Inf & 1 US SBR in England. Or, not attack Norway at all. SZ2 would have been a good place for the US fleet to be safe. With the 2 US Trans, 3 Inf 1 Art in SZ2, I could have attacked Norway the following turn. Like I said, I was trying to save India, which was obviously key for the Allies to continue the game and have a reasonable chance of winning. I was trying to press the Axis and hopefully get a little lucky w/dicing.
If I had done something a little different w/the US, I could have had a better showing. Losing the Brit SBR in the beginning hurt as well.
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In the marketplace forum, you said you played twice with your board game! wink
I played it twice w/my 16 year old son. That doesn’t count. :-P I was trying to teach him the mechanics of the game. And, that was some time ago when the game first came out.
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Before we started the game, you suggested taking the Allies with 12 and letting me take them with 8 in the next game. Wanna try that instead? I need more work with my Allies, as the only 1942.2 game I’ve ever lost was with the Allies.
Ok, sounds good. I’ll take the Axis, giving you the Allies at +8. Start a new thread, place your units and take the Russian turn.
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