1942.2 total vic. w/ int: Zombie69 (Axis) vs Commando Brado (Allies + 12)

[Commando Brado]

@Zombie69:

Please disregard the above post. Here’s the up-to-date one.

I need you to pick your losses for SZ 13. Note that there’s a 54% chance I’ll take Morocco, so if you sink the carrier and I retreat, your plane could be lost. You’re lucky I only scored 6 hits in 15 dice, or there would be no choice to make! :evil: (Actually, there might have been one in the first round of combat if I had scored more than 3 hits with my 9 planes.)

Please use the second save, since the first round of combat was an obvious choice with 2 destroyers and an empty carrier to take as losses.

Basically, you’ve got one unit to choose to protect your transports, and you’ve got a choice between a fighter, a cruiser and a carrier.

You’re lucky I only got 2 hits in Round 2 and no hits in Round 4.

[Zombie69]

True that.

[Commando Brado]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 5 armour; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Libya to Algeria
                  British take Algeria from Germans

Combat - British

Non Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Libya to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia
            1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia
            1 armour moved from Egypt to Persia
            1 armour moved from Egypt to Persia
            1 armour moved from Alaska to Eastern Canada
            1 infantry moved from Alaska to Western Canada
            1 carrier moved from 29 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 29 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from India to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from India to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Egypt to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Egypt to 35 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            3 armour placed in India
            2 armour placed in Egypt

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 32 PUs; end with 34 PUs total
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from United Kingdom: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to French West Africa: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Territory Summary for British :

35 Sea Zone : 2 carriers and 4 fighters
    Algeria : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Eastern Australia : 1 infantry
    Eastern Canada : 1 armour
    Egypt : 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory and 2 infantry
    French West Africa : 1 fighter
    India : 9 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 factory and 5 infantry
    Libya : 1 flag
    New Zealand : 1 infantry
    Persia : 2 armour and 2 infantry
    United Kingdom : 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory and 3 infantry
    Western Canada : 1 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Russians : 14 / 23
    Germans : 45 / 46
    British : 32 / 34
    Japanese : 37 / 38
    Americans : 40 / 39

[Zombie69]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 3 artilleries, 2 destroyers and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            5 artilleries and 16 infantry moved from Burma to India
            1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Kazakh S.S.R.
                  Japanese take Kazakh S.S.R. from Russians
            3 fighters moved from 61 Sea Zone to India
            3 bombers moved from Japan to India
            1 fighter moved from Japan to 58 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers moved from 61 Sea Zone to 58 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 61 Sea Zone to 58 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Yakut S.S.R. to 58 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Evenki National Okrug
                  Japanese take Evenki National Okrug from Russians

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 58 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 3 fighters
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer and 5 submarines
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 3 fighters in 58 Sea Zone, round 2 :  3/6 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 5 submarines in 58 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/5 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 58 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    3 submarines owned by the Americans lost in 58 Sea Zone
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 3 fighters in 58 Sea Zone, round 3 :  5/6 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 58 Sea Zone, round 3 :  1/2 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 58 Sea Zone, round 3 :  1/1 hits
                    2 submarines owned by the Americans, 1 destroyer owned by the Americans, 1 cruiser owned by the Japanese and 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 58 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 destroyer and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 5 submarines
            Battle in India
                Japanese attack with 5 artilleries, 3 bombers, 3 fighters and 16 infantry
                Russians defend with 2 fighters; British defend with 9 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 factory and 5 infantry; Americans defend with 2 fighters
                    Japanese roll dice for 5 artilleries, 3 bombers, 3 fighters and 16 infantry in India, round 2 :  10/27 hits
                    British roll dice for 9 armour, 3 artilleries, 4 fighters and 5 infantry in India, round 2 :  9/21 hits
                    5 infantry owned by the British, 2 armour owned by the British, 9 infantry owned by the Japanese and 3 artilleries owned by the British lost in India
                    Japanese roll dice for 5 artilleries, 3 bombers, 3 fighters and 7 infantry in India, round 3 :  11/18 hits
                    British roll dice for 7 armour and 4 fighters in India, round 3 :  3/11 hits
                    2 fighters owned by the Americans, 7 armour owned by the British, 3 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 fighters owned by the Russians lost in India
                Japanese win, taking India from British with 5 artilleries, 3 bombers, 3 fighters and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 85
                Casualties for Japanese: 12 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 fighters
                Casualties for British: 9 armour, 3 artilleries and 5 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 2 fighters

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            3 fighters moved from 58 Sea Zone to 60 Sea Zone
            2 carriers and 4 transports moved from 61 Sea Zone to 60 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Burma to India
            3 fighters moved from India to Burma
            3 bombers moved from India to Burma
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangtung
            1 artillery moved from Yunnan to Kwangtung
            3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
            1 armour moved from Szechwan to Burma

Place Units - Japanese
            2 destroyers placed in 60 Sea Zone
            3 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in Japan

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 43 PUs; end with 44 PUs total

Territory Summary for Japanese :

58 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    60 Sea Zone : 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters and 4 transports
    Anhwei : 1 flag
    Borneo : 1 infantry
    Burma : 1 flag, 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 bombers, 3 fighters and 3 infantry
    Buryatia S.S.R. : 1 flag
    Caroline Islands : 1 infantry
    East Indies : 2 infantry
    Evenki National Okrug : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    India : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 5 artilleries, 1 factory and 4 infantry
    Iwo Jima : 1 infantry
    Japan : 3 artilleries, 1 factory and 3 infantry
    Kazakh S.S.R. : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Kwangtung : 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    New Guinea : 1 infantry
    Okinawa : 1 infantry
    Solomon Islands : 1 infantry
    Soviet Far East : 1 flag
    Szechwan : 1 flag
    Wake Island : 1 infantry
    Yakut S.S.R. : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Yunnan : 1 flag

Production/PUs Summary :

Russians : 11 / 23
    Germans : 45 / 46
    British : 29 / 34
    Japanese : 43 / 44
    Americans : 40 / 39

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 19 times
            2 was rolled 16 times
            3 was rolled 17 times
            4 was rolled 18 times
            5 was rolled 13 times
            6 was rolled 15 times
        Average roll : 3.357
        Median : 3.000
        Variance : 0.247
        Standard Deviation : 0.497
        Total rolls : 98

Japanese Combat
            1 was rolled 16 times
            2 was rolled 8 times
            3 was rolled 10 times
            4 was rolled 9 times
            5 was rolled 7 times
            6 was rolled 7 times
        Average roll : 3.070
        Median : 3.000
        Variance : 1.054
        Standard Deviation : 1.026
        Total rolls : 57

British Combat
            1 was rolled 2 times
            2 was rolled 6 times
            3 was rolled 6 times
            4 was rolled 8 times
            5 was rolled 4 times
            6 was rolled 6 times
        Average roll : 3.750
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 0.710
        Standard Deviation : 0.842
        Total rolls : 32

Americans Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 2 times
            6 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 3.778
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 0.375
        Standard Deviation : 0.612
        Total rolls : 9

[Zombie69]

The battle in India was very one-sided, sorry about that. On average I was supposed to take it with one artillery while losing one fighter. Still, even with standard outcomes, I believe the game was pretty much over with no American fleet to speak of and Brits taken out of the equation everywhere but in Africa.  :|

[Commando Brado]

@Zombie69:

The battle in India was very one-sided, sorry about that. On average I was supposed to take it with one artillery while losing one fighter. Still, even with standard outcomes, I believe the game was pretty much over with no American fleet to speak of and Brits taken out of the equation everywhere but in Africa.  :|

Uh YEA!!! VERY much one sided! LOL!  :-(  :-o  :?  :lol:  :x  :-P  :oops:  :cry:  :roll:  :| You’re exactly right. You should have taken it w/1 Art, while losing one of your fighters. That was totally slated in your favor. You have 4 Inf & 4 Art too much in India.  :-P

The whole idea behind me putting my 2 Brit AC’s w/4 FTR’s in SZ35 was to force you to either attack the American fleet in SZ58 or attack the Brit fleet in SZ35. From the odds calculator, you would have had to bring 3 of your FTR’s to the fleet battle in SZ35 w/all of your fleet, plus 1 FTR, 3 Bmbr’s to India, pretty much preventing you from doing both. Saving India. If your fleet did come down to SZ35, then I would have whacked them w/the American airforce. AND, India still would have been able to have been taken back w/the American tank in TJ, plus the bomber. Then, reinforced by the Brits in Persia. And, India could have built that turn. W/out any Japanese transports, plus the tanks coming down from Russia, I believe I could’ve held India. However, when you get amazing dicing like you did in India, it’s pretty hard to overcome those odds.

I completely spaced on the FTR’s in Yakut reaching SZ58. Like I said, I figured you’d need your entire fleet this turn to take India, therefore I figured you might attack the US fleet in SZ58 w/your fleet, then I could whack you back in SZ58. Or, you wouldn’t have attacked India this turn, not attacked the US fleet, giving the US more naval superiority in the Pacific.

In hindsight, I would have done something slightly different w/the US. And, if I had left my fleet in SZ13, I would have left 4 FTR’s there instead of 2. Or, just moved my US fleet all together and taken Norway.

Anyway, good game. Like I said, this is my first 1942.2 game, so there was a little bit of a learning curve. Wanna play again?  :-D Same sides? Same bid? I

I’m going to take the US and Russia turn just for the kicks of it, just to see what happens…  :-P

[Commando Brado]

About the right odds in India w/the US.

[Commando Brado]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 destroyer and 5 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 submarine moved from 56 Sea Zone to 58 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 56 Sea Zone to 58 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to India
            1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to India
            1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to India
            1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to India
            1 fighter moved from Egypt to India
            1 bomber moved from Egypt to India

Combat - Americans
            Battle in India
                Americans attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 4 fighters
                Japanese defend with 1 aaGun, 5 artilleries, 1 factory and 4 infantry
                    AA fire in India :  1/3 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in India
                    Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber and 3 fighters in India, round 2 :  3/5 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 aaGun, 5 artilleries and 4 infantry in India, round 2 :  3/9 hits
                    3 fighters owned by the Americans, 2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 aaGun owned by the Japanese lost in India
                    Americans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 bomber in India, round 3 :  1/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 5 artilleries and 2 infantry in India, round 3 :  2/7 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 armour owned by the Americans and 1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in India
                Japanese win with 5 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -44
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun and 3 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 armour, 1 bomber and 4 fighters
            Battle in 58 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 2 submarines
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 58 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 58 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 58 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 infantry moved from Western Canada to Alaska
            1 infantry moved from Western Canada to Alaska
            1 aaGun moved from Western Canada to Alaska
            1 aaGun moved from Eastern United States to Eastern Canada
            1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Eastern Canada
            1 submarine moved from 38 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            1 destroyer and 5 submarines placed in 56 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 40 PUs; end with 41 PUs total

Territory Summary for Americans :

11 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    35 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    56 Sea Zone : 4 destroyers and 6 submarines
    58 Sea Zone : 2 submarines
    Alaska : 1 aaGun and 2 infantry
    Eastern Canada : 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
    Eastern United States : 1 factory
    Morocco : 1 flag
    Western United States : 1 factory

Production/PUs Summary :

Russians : 11 / 23
    Germans : 45 / 46
    British : 29 / 34
    Japanese : 43 / 44
    Americans : 40 / 41

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 6 times
            2 was rolled 5 times
            3 was rolled 3 times
            4 was rolled 4 times
            5 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 10 times
        Average roll : 3.655
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 1.821
        Standard Deviation : 1.350
        Total rolls : 29

Japanese Combat
            1 was rolled 4 times
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 3 times
            4 was rolled 3 times
            5 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 7 times
        Average roll : 3.800
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 1.158
        Standard Deviation : 1.076
        Total rolls : 20

Americans Combat
            1 was rolled 2 times
            2 was rolled 3 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 3 times
        Average roll : 3.333
        Median : 2.000
        Variance : 1.375
        Standard Deviation : 1.173
        Total rolls : 9

[Commando Brado]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 2 artilleries and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Sinkiang to Anhwei
                  Americans take Anhwei from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Sinkiang to Szechwan
                  Americans take Szechwan from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Sinkiang to Evenki National Okrug
            1 artillery moved from Russia to Kazakh S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Kazakh S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Archangel
            1 artillery moved from Russia to Archangel
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Caucasus
            1 artillery moved from Russia to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from Russia to West Russia
            1 infantry moved from Russia to West Russia
            1 artillery moved from Russia to West Russia
            1 infantry moved from Sinkiang to Evenki National Okrug
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Kazakh S.S.R.

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Evenki National Okrug
                Russians attack with 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Evenki National Okrug, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Evenki National Okrug, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Evenki National Okrug
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Evenki National Okrug, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Evenki National Okrug, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians retreated to Sinkiang
                Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Archangel
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Archangel, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Archangel
                Russians win, taking Archangel from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery
            Battle in Kazakh S.S.R.
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 2 :  0/3 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 3 :  1/3 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 3 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kazakh S.S.R.
                Russians win, taking Kazakh S.S.R. from Japanese with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in West Russia
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in West Russia, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in West Russia, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in West Russia
                Russians win, taking West Russia from Germans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Caucasus
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 factory
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Caucasus, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Caucasus
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Caucasus, round 3 :  1/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Caucasus, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus
                Russians win, taking Caucasus from Germans with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 armour moved from Russia to Persia
            1 armour moved from Russia to Persia
            1 armour moved from Russia to Persia
            1 aaGun moved from Russia to Kazakh S.S.R.
            1 aaGun moved from Russia to Kazakh S.S.R.

Place Units - Russians
            2 artilleries and 5 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs total

Territory Summary for Russians :

Anhwei : 1 infantry
    Archangel : 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Caucasus : 1 artillery and 1 factory
    Kazakh S.S.R. : 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Persia : 3 armour
    Russia : 10 artilleries, 1 factory and 9 infantry
    Sinkiang : 1 infantry
    Szechwan : 1 infantry
    West Russia : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 2 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Russians : 20 / 20
    Germans : 38 / 46
    British : 29 / 34
    Japanese : 39 / 44
    Americans : 42 / 41

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 12 times
            2 was rolled 8 times
            3 was rolled 7 times
            4 was rolled 6 times
            5 was rolled 6 times
            6 was rolled 16 times
        Average roll : 3.618
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 1.500
        Standard Deviation : 1.225
        Total rolls : 55

Japanese Combat
            1 was rolled 5 times
            2 was rolled 3 times
            3 was rolled 4 times
            4 was rolled 3 times
            5 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 8 times
        Average roll : 3.667
        Median : 3.500
        Variance : 1.217
        Standard Deviation : 1.103
        Total rolls : 24

Germans Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3.800
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 1.250
        Standard Deviation : 1.118
        Total rolls : 5

Russians Combat
            1 was rolled 4 times
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 2 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 4 times
            6 was rolled 4 times
        Average roll : 3.647
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 0.812
        Standard Deviation : 0.901
        Total rolls : 17

Americans Combat
            1 was rolled 2 times
            2 was rolled 3 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 3 times
        Average roll : 3.333
        Median : 2.000
        Variance : 1.375
        Standard Deviation : 1.173
        Total rolls : 9

[Commando Brado]

Pretty sure I’ll lose this one but let’s play it out for another round to see what happens. Do you want to start another game to coincide with this one? Same sides? Same bid? Or, I can play the Axis this time w/the bid we agreed to before. But regardless, will you give me another game w/me playing the Allies, same bid to try and redeem myself?  :-D

[Commando Brado]

I’ll let you beat me up for another round on this one if you’re game?

[Zombie69]

@Commando:

The whole idea behind me putting my 2 Brit AC’s w/4 FTR’s in SZ35 was to force you to either attack the American fleet in SZ58 or attack the Brit fleet in SZ35. From the odds calculator, you would have had to bring 3 of your FTR’s to the fleet battle in SZ35 w/all of your fleet, plus 1 FTR, 3 Bmbr’s to India, pretty much preventing you from doing both. Saving India. If your fleet did come down to SZ35, then I would have whacked them w/the American airforce. AND, India still would have been able to have been taken back w/the American tank in TJ, plus the bomber. Then, reinforced by the Brits in Persia. And, India could have built that turn. W/out any Japanese transports, plus the tanks coming down from Russia, I believe I could’ve held India. However, when you get amazing dicing like you did in India, it’s pretty hard to overcome those odds.

Actually, my 2 choices that made sense were 1) to do as I did and go without transports but with 6 planes or 2) to go with transports but without planes, taking India with a few guys left on it, destroying your fleet with everything that could reach while losing only a destroyer and 3 bombers. In that case, my fleet still survives your American attack since it’s intact except for one destroyer. The reason I went this route was that the other only gave me a 64% win rate in Russia (even though I end up with more troops on the ground there on average) and I really wanted to make sure that your Russian fighters died.

In hindsight, I would have done something slightly different w/the US. And, if I had left my fleet in SZ13, I would have left 4 FTR’s there instead of 2. Or, just moved my US fleet all together and taken Norway.

I could still destroy it even with 2 more fighters, or if you took Norway (in range of the 3 subs). As it is, I destroyed it easily and on average should have lost one less bomber than I did. Still, I had two bombers left. I made the mistake earlier of not leaving my planes in range and letting it move there, but now that they were in range, you had to get out. Your best move was to send 6 fighters and a bomber on my Med fleet, while retreating and building more fleet on the US East Coast.

Anyway, good game. Like I said, this is my first 1942.2 game, so there was a little bit of a learning curve.

In the marketplace forum, you said you played twice with your board game!  :wink:

Wanna play again?  :-D Same sides? Same bid?

Before we started the game, you suggested taking the Allies with 12 and letting me take them with 8 in the next game. Wanna try that instead? I need more work with my Allies, as the only 1942.2 game I’ve ever lost was with the Allies.

[Zombie69]

@Commando:

I’ll let you beat me up for another round on this one if you’re game?

I think it’s a bit pointless as I’m not one to beat a dead horse. After one more round, you’d have no plane left anywhere in the world except the 4 off India (Germany drops on the one in Africa and could even take Brazil one turn later), the Russians don’t even have any tanks either (Persia gets annihilated with 1 INF, 4 ART, 1 TNK, 3 FGT, 3 BMB), there isn’t any allied fleet left in the Atlantic and no Pacific threat that Japan can’t easily handle. Germany plucks down 6 transports this turn and there’s nothing UK can do to keep me from taking London one turn later with as many as 8 INF, 6 TNK, 3 FGT, 2 BMB. In fact I’d have a 51% chance of taking it now, but why risk it when I can take it for sure one turn later?

I suggest we just start a new game and forget about this one quickly!

[Zombie69]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 artillery and 6 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            2 infantry moved from France to 14 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 14 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 23 Sea Zone to French West Africa
            1 fighter moved from 14 Sea Zone to French West Africa
            1 battleship moved from 14 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from France to Caucasus
            1 bomber moved from France to West Russia
            2 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Caucasus
            2 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to West Russia
            1 artillery moved from Karelia S.S.R. to West Russia
            2 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Archangel
            1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Archangel
            1 fighter moved from Germany to Archangel

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Archangel
                Germans attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Archangel, round 2 :  1/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Archangel
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Archangel, round 3 :  0/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Archangel, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Archangel, round 4 :  0/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Archangel, round 4 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Archangel, round 5 :  1/3 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Archangel, round 5 :  0/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Archangel
                Germans win, taking Archangel from Russians with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in West Russia
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry in West Russia, round 2 :  0/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in West Russia, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in West Russia
                1 artillery owned by the Germans retreated to Karelia S.S.R.
                Russians win with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Battle in Caucasus
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 factory
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Caucasus, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Caucasus
                Germans win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery
            Battle in French West Africa
                Germans attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 fighter
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in French West Africa, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter in French West Africa, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in French West Africa
                Germans win, taking French West Africa from British with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from French West Africa to 23 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 14 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Karelia S.S.R.
            1 bomber moved from West Russia to Karelia S.S.R.
            1 fighter moved from Archangel to Karelia S.S.R.
            2 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia S.S.R.
            9 armour moved from Belorussia to Karelia S.S.R.
            2 infantry moved from Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 infantry moved from Southern Europe to Bulgaria Romania
            1 fighter moved from 14 Sea Zone to Northwestern Europe
            2 aaGuns moved from France to Germany
            1 submarine moved from 8 Sea Zone to 13 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            8 infantry moved from Germany to Baltic States

Place Units - Germans
            6 transports placed in 5 Sea Zone
            1 artillery placed in Karelia S.S.R.

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUs total

Territory Summary for Germans :

5 Sea Zone : 6 transports
    8 Sea Zone : 2 submarines
    13 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    23 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 transport
    Archangel : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    Baltic States : 8 infantry
    Belorussia : 1 infantry
    Bulgaria Romania : 1 infantry
    Caucasus : 1 flag, 1 factory and 2 infantry
    France : 2 infantry
    French West Africa : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Germany : 2 aaGuns and 1 factory
    Gibraltar : 1 flag
    Italy : 1 factory
    Karelia S.S.R. : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 9 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 1 factory, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
    Northwestern Europe : 1 fighter
    Poland : 1 infantry
    Ukraine S.S.R. : 2 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Russians : 15 / 20
    Germans : 44 / 44
    British : 28 / 34
    Japanese : 39 / 44
    Americans : 42 / 41

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 3 times
            2 was rolled 6 times
            3 was rolled 8 times
            4 was rolled 5 times
            5 was rolled 7 times
            6 was rolled 4 times
        Average roll : 3.576
        Median : 3.000
        Variance : 0.594
        Standard Deviation : 0.771
        Total rolls : 33

Germans Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 5 times
            3 was rolled 5 times
            4 was rolled 4 times
            5 was rolled 4 times
            6 was rolled 4 times
        Average roll : 3.739
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 0.682
        Standard Deviation : 0.826
        Total rolls : 23

British Combat
            3 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3.000
        Median : 3.000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

Russians Combat
            1 was rolled 2 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 2 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 3 times
        Average roll : 3.222
        Median : 3.000
        Variance : 0.875
        Standard Deviation : 0.935
        Total rolls : 9

[Zombie69]

Here, I played the German turn just to give you a better picture of what I meant.  :-D

[Commando Brado]

I could still destroy it even with 2 more fighters, or if you took Norway (in range of the 3 subs). As it is, I destroyed it easily and on average should have lost one less bomber than I did. Still, I had two bombers left. I made the mistake earlier of not leaving my planes in range and letting it move there, but now that they were in range, you had to get out. Your best move was to send 6 fighters and a bomber on my Med fleet, while retreating and building more fleet on the US East Coast.

Yes, you could have destroyed the US fleet w/2 more FTR’s. The idea would be to destroy more German airforce. But, the idea was all hands on deck to try and save India AND if Japan moved it’s fleet to the SZ off India, whack it with the 4 US FTR’s and 1 US SBR. And, if Japan didn’t move it’s fleet there, then I would have 4 US FTR’s to move into India if necessary. In hindsight, as discussed, it would have been better for me to move my fleet completely out of harms way, still allowing me to protect Britain if necessary, not attack Morocco at all and just attack Norway w/1 Trans, 2 Inf & 1 US SBR in England. Or, not attack Norway at all. SZ2 would have been a good place for the US fleet to be safe. With the 2 US Trans, 3 Inf 1 Art in SZ2, I could have attacked Norway the following turn. Like I said, I was trying to save India, which was obviously key for the Allies to continue the game and have a reasonable chance of winning. I was trying to press the Axis and hopefully get a little lucky w/dicing.

If I had done something a little different w/the US, I could have had a better showing. Losing the Brit SBR in the beginning hurt as well.

[Commando Brado]

In the marketplace forum, you said you played twice with your board game!  wink

I played it twice w/my 16 year old son. That doesn’t count.  :-P I was trying to teach him the mechanics of the game. And, that was some time ago when the game first came out.

[Commando Brado]

Before we started the game, you suggested taking the Allies with 12 and letting me take them with 8 in the next game. Wanna try that instead? I need more work with my Allies, as the only 1942.2 game I’ve ever lost was with the Allies.

Ok, sounds good. I’ll take the Axis, giving you the Allies at +8. Start a new thread, place your units and take the Russian turn.

[Zombie69]

Here it is:

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=33904.0