Can Germany invade the UK first and win?

Unless you get incredible luck, this isn’t possible on a normal game. However, if you’re playing kamikaze planes, then you’ll probably be able to do it.

ive done it without kamikaze planes. and buy a couple trannys first turn, so if you fail you can just launch another attack.

if you have a lot of luck with your dice it “may” be possible. but most of the time you probably will lose the fight.

that depends on your style of play ;-)

if you want to play a game based on luck … go ahead and try.
i prefer to try to minimize the influence of luck on the outcome of battles.

If it would be that easy that you might invade england in your first turn right before the uk player ever did a single turn, the whole game would be quite inbalanced at least for the uk player.

i say play that way when you play anyone with knowledge of the game and you will fall

Hey, I just took this battle to a battle sim that I just downloaded. Germany had a 5.7% chance of pulling it off. If the AA gun misses all 3 times (2 fighters, 1 from Western Europe, 1 from Norway, plus the bomber from Germany), it becomes a 9% chance.

that means if you try it 20 times you may once win this battle, statisticly speaking.

but consider loosing this battle will most certainly end up in 19 times loosing the games from thos 20 trys ;-)

Go ahead, do it tomorrow if you get germany. I DARE you!

Germany can invade first turn, and win the game… its easy.

First turn for Germany it depends on whether or not Russia destroyed many German Fighters (1-2 destroyed is ok, 3-4 is a lot) then Germany can decide whether or not to do Operation Sealion. Germany first turn spends 40$ to get the Long Range aircraft technology (high chance of getting it). And then all fighters are in range of Britain… and you invade with 1 tank and 1 infantry and all your planes and your bomber… ALMOST ALWAYS you will win. Take some uboats and block off/kill the canadian transport, and american seacoast. Germany collects 70 bucks at the end of their turn. :)

Hmm, i guess i’ll have to take that one to the battle sim. But just let me point out, if you’re someone like me and have terrible luck, you’ll spend all your money trying to get the long range aircraft, but you’ll miss. Then you’re screwed. Also, it still would be possible to lose the battle w/ Britiain. If that happends, you’re screwed again because you’ll have no troops to place that turn, then Britain and Russia will be able to roll right over you. Point being: Only one thing has to go wrong for you to be screwed.

Last game my teammate and i decided to try this out.

Advice: don’t do it.

Reason: It completely ruins the game.

Here’s what we did: Spent all of the money on weapons development, and got long range aircraft.

Sent the fighter from Western Europe to take out the tranny by eastern canada. If we won the Britain battle, Germany will have only one land unit left, and britian could use that tank to take it back. We left the north atlantic sub there so U.S. couldn’t take it back during their turn. We sent all 5 of the other fighters, the bomber, a tank, and an infantry against w/e britain had (i think it’s 2 infantry, an artillery, a tank, 2 fighters, and a bomber). we had a 60% chance of winning. Of course we got bad luck, and everyone on both sides was killed, so Britain kept it.

But since the odds were with us, it was, in theory, a good strategy. But here’s how it ruins the game

If odds play out and Germany wins:
Germany keeps Britain, will have enough income their next turn to reinforce it, and buy enough troops to take back what Russia took while Germany had no troops to place. U.S. helps Russia out a lot, and not on Japan, so the Japs roll right through Asia. Y’all can finish the story. Axis wins.

Summary: Why finish the game if you know the Axis will win after Germany’s first turn

If germany gets bad luck and Britain wins:
Germany will place no troops during his first turn. Russia will take over 3 or 4 territories over it’s first 3 turns. When germany finally has reinforcements to use it’s 3rd turn, it’ll take one of those back. Of course Russia has taken quite a bit of income from Germany. Within a few turns, and with a little help from the Brits and americans, they roll right over Germany.

Summary: Why finish the game when you know the allies will win after Germany’s first turn.

So if you’re playing solely for bragging rights, and like leaving everything up to luck, then do this. You’ll also have a lot more time to do other stuff because the game is as good as over in 20 minutes. If you want to have fun and decided the winner mainly on his/her strategies, then don’t do it.

If you’re an allied player and think germany will be stupid enough to do this and want to defend against it. Make sure Russia takes over a country with a fighter in it, so that’ll be one less for Germany to lose. Also fly a fighter to Britain to give him a better chance of winning, or discourage Germany from doing it.

That’s all I have to say. Have a nice day

IT IS POSSIBLE!!!
you can do it but plan to lose your ftrs.
this is what you buy G1
-aircraft carrier
-3transports
move 4 tanks, 4 inf, and 4 ftrs to france, send 2 ftrs to germ (for the AC), keep the er in range, and move your subs up so that the british navy cant block you. the acc is needed to protect the trannys and repel america’s navy after you take it.
G2 attack uk with
-4 inf
-4 arm
-6 ftrs
-1 bmbr

that should work :D try it!

I just bought the game and actually haven’t played a game yet, but I don’t see how Germany can get land units to UK in 2 turns. If you buy transports on turn 1 they are placed on the board at the end of the turn. On turn 2 you would load the transports, but the units could not attack until turn 3. I though the rules said that you can’t bridge two territories with a transport on one turn.

now if you do bids, and you bid 1 trn inbaltic sea, then maybe…

@jbailey:

I just bought the game and actually haven’t played a game yet, but I don’t see how Germany can get land units to UK in 2 turns. If you buy transports on turn 1 they are placed on the board at the end of the turn. On turn 2 you would load the transports, but the units could not attack until turn 3. I though the rules said that you can’t bridge two territories with a transport on one turn.

Actually in G2 Germany can both LOAD their trannies, TRANSPORT the land units by boat to North Sea and ATTACK United Kingdom by unloading their land units.

Cheers

@Commissar_Adam:

IT IS POSSIBLE!!!
you can do it but plan to lose your ftrs.
this is what you buy G1
-aircraft carrier
-3transports
move 4 tanks, 4 inf, and 4 ftrs to france, send 2 ftrs to germ (for the AC), keep the er in range, and move your subs up so that the british navy cant block you. the acc is needed to protect the trannys and repel america’s navy after you take it.
G2 attack uk with
-4 inf
-4 arm
-6 ftrs
-1 bmbr

that should work :D try it!

Well i don’t think that works.

Why? Engeland is hopefully for the allied players not blind or stupid and knows what Germany wants to do with the transporters. So as a reaction by’s 8 ground units, then ask USA to moves his 2 transporters with 2 tanks, 2 inf. + his ftr and bomber into Engeland.

Now in G2 Germany has:
4 inf
4 arm
6 ftrs
1 bmbr

And Engelands defense is at least:
3 figts (1 USA)
2 bmbrs (1 USA)
3 arm (2 USA)
5 inf (2 USA)
1 art
Anti air (7 dice, so let say one hit)
and the 8 ground units you just bought with Engeland.

You can buy one transporter en 7 inf. instead of 8 ground unit. Then in G3 you can put 6 ground unit on Germany or Norway. And if the Germans don’t kill the 2 USA transporters they also can do nice things.

So i think, forget it, its not posible in this way.

It’s only a way to get rid off you’re fleet/frts quickly.

A few days ago I tried to invade Britain turn one with Germany. I got long range aircraft and send all my aircraft and the transport with one inf and one tank. I was successful, but lost all my ftrs and US just toke back in there turn, so I don’t really think its worth it.