Aircraft on a defending carrier

@nzcamel

Rulebook (Europe 1940.2, page 13) has it:

"However, units can’t end their movement in friendly spaces during the Combat Move phase except in four instances.
…

Sea units that will be participating in an amphibious assault
from a friendly sea zone, as well as sea and/or air units that
may be needed to support it in the case that defending air
units are scrambled (see “Scramble,” page 16).

"

@nzcamel said in Protecting the transports with aircraft, in an amphibious landing, from scrambles.:

@aequitas-et-veritas they aren’t being sent to join a certain combat. They are staying with the fleet (with no enemy ships present) not fighting in the landing battle. Are you sure they are allowed to move in the combat step?

… same rulebook, page 32:

“Carrier aircraft move independently of the carrier on their own turn. They move along with the carrier on its turn if they belong to different powers. On the air units’ turn, they launch before the carrier moves, even if they are not leaving the sea zone themselves.”

So in case the attacking power brings its fighters to the sea zone in question (with the fleet or not) during combat move phase they will fight against possibly scrambling units.

Only fighters belonging to friendly powers remain as cargo on the carrier.

@ShadowHAwk said in The Taranto Raid Fighter/Carrier Question:

Ofcourse if you take less then 2 hits in that combat its not the worst thing.

certainly not!

@ShadowHAwk:

@Caesar:

Yes, this usually get abused by the Allies since they have more aircraft and more carriers to move around, sometimes I will let US carriers just carry a single plane so ANZAC and UK can launch raids on weak targets to have a place to land.

Or worst, have 1 anzac, Uk plane on a US carrier, carrier moves 2 spaces in non combat plane can safely attack 4 spaces away.
You really sure those transports are safe because of your blockers?

Carriers are awesome like that, it’s one the reason why I build the Graf Zeppelin on G1 just encase I sent the Kreigsmarine to back up the Italians.

Yea my bad, makes sense that the attacking sub would have the choice to submerge in the sz that the battle took place (no enemy dd present), or retreat 1 adjacent sz from where it came.

Yup, rifles are DEFINITELY better AA than flak.

Remember this:

Hitler, in trying to defend everything, could defend nothing.

I always try to be proactive in my sea and land defenses, but if you see the Allies attempting to land, pull back, build artillery and counterattack when the Allied airforces and navies can’t hit you. The exception is Germany, West Germany, Denmark. But you should defend 5 tt’s from the US (perhaps 6 depending on the Med): France, WGer, Ger, Den and Greece (and maybe N. Italy or Rome…)

We were talking about if it CAN happen, not if it is a good idea or likely to happen

@JamesAleman:

@Stefano1189:

@Krieghund:

Yes, they can.

Is it possibile to have kamikaze aircrafts? Let me explain: can i use aircrafts to conduct attacks at sea that they have no possibility of return?

No. You must be able to land, even if that landing site is pending a naval battle or non combat carrier move or sea zone build.

Japan has a special Kamikaze attack that is activated by the allies under specific conditions, but it does not involve normal air units on the board. These are 6 one time attacks on enemy ships excluding subs and transports.

See: page 21 AAEurope 1940 bottom paragraph under “Air Units” third bullet point, last sentence: “You can’t deliberately move an air unit out of range of a potential safe landing space.”

See also: page 13 AAEurope 1940 first paragraph under “Air Units” first sentence: “An air unit that moves in the Combat Move phase must generally reserve part of its move value for the Noncombat Move phase, at which point it must return to a safe landing spot using its remaining movement.”

Note: This is not an official answer, just being helpful.

Thank you. :-)