Why is Italy an allied power?

I honsetly have no idea what the above posting means…

I’m honestly waiting for some internet link to support any claim that Italy was close or had a good chance of fighting with AH during 1914-18.

Instead or arguing and calling people a Dick, perhaps you might make an argument>?

Sorry, I’m a grown man. � Hence, I don’t use emoticons. � I just assume that other grown men feel the same way… � Don’t think that makes me “insane” though…

keep repeating that. It might help you at night.

I like you said “I never once called you any names” and then two sentences later “You must be insane” � Laughing… alrighty…

And seriously, you’ve gone back and tabulated all of my posts, and analyzed them…? � Laughing… � that’s awesome.

No argument still….this sock puppet just loves hiding behind fluff.

Yeah, I’ll worry about satisfying your demands once you actually understand the differences between evidence, data, fact, argument, and analysis.  Until then… not going to lose any sleep over satisfying your need for a wikipedia entry.

Don’t lose sleep over having no argument either, or supporting anything with evidence, or repeating words that hold no meaning to you, etc…

Don’t worry rj, he’s also a moderator on this site. After awhile he may alter your post too.

“IL Twilight Zone”

Get out while you can

Nice, are you going, what team (if you don’t mind me asking)

Cool, I’m patiently waiting for the Tigers on TV (open in Minnesota at 4:00).

I believe the OP was asking why Italy starts the getco with the allies.  Is it that difficult to just let Italy be neutral for one turn?  Like if it balances it it balances it if not we take it out. I just think everyone argueing is getting rediculous.  The passed pages aren’t even about this topic.

I am quite dissapointed. :mrgreen:

Well, if you make Italy neutral the first turn it will be even harder for the CP’s to take Rome, because they can reinforce Venice… or if Austria can attack Italy turn 1 anyway, they will-  Same result as OOB.

Just out of curiousity, how many times do you have to edit your posts until you get them right?  This is literally the third or fourth time you’ve edited this single posting…

Unlike you i check for spelling: curiosity not curiousity.

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The Austrians have a choice to DOW against Italy on the first turn. And this neutral Italy first turn may not hurt the Austrians if they wanna hit Romania hard.

@italiansarecoming:

The Austrians have a choice to DOW against Italy on the first turn. And this neutral Italy first turn may not hurt the Austrians if they wanna hit Romania hard.

Maybe true, but I think that Austria needs to hit Italy hard and fast or Americans will be in Rome to fight before Austria can take it.

@Suvorov:

Okay, guys. Â You play whatever crazy alternative reality game you want to. Â You can even roll for wormholes, through which AA1940 units can enter the game in a nod to The Final Countdown. Â I’m going to play the game with the rules as written, in which Italy is a member of the Allied powers, because no other alternative is plausible. Â Anyone arguing the contrary either lacks enough understanding of the political situation (despite the best efforts of many here to educate them) or is wilfully ignoring history.

Don’t act like some benevolent instructor who is helping us understand the keys to history, helping us idiots out of our ignorance. The question is not whether Italy would have jumped at easy, quick gains in North Africa in the case that Germany offered them after the war might have tipped decisively in CP favor, it’s whether or not Austria and Germany would have even bothered to make that offer to Italy.

I’ll make it simple. France is overrun, Russia is being pushed back. France cannot defend its North African colonies. Italian leaders have concluded that the CP is winning decisively, and the war will be over soon.
The CP offers those North African colonies to Italy if they help against the British in Africa.

Do you honestly still guarantee that Italy would have just snubbed the CP and said “no thanks?”

@Imperious:

Words matter.  If you don’t understand that, you don’t understand how to construct an argument.  They are the building blocks of analysis.  If you don’t understand the definition of words, you don’t have ���� for an argument or analysis

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…and you don’t have an argument that fits this forum topic.

Just because your arguments start to fail does not make it a proper thing to do to start claiming the posts you don’t like to be off-topic. That is a bad habit of yours.

I’ll make it simple. France is overrun, Russia is being pushed back. France cannot defend its North African colonies. Italian leaders have concluded that the CP is winning decisively, and the war will be over soon.
The CP offers those North African colonies to Italy if they help against the British in Africa.

Do you honestly still guarantee that Italy would have just snubbed the CP and said “no thanks?”

That could happen, but the reality of that achievement would need to be made before the first 10 months, which makes the point moot. Suvorov is entirely correct. He reads History and it shows.
And for those events to happen ( France falls, and Russia is near death) is really pretty much game over or event over. What does it matter if Italy joins…the war is over and the game too.

We can only point out that it makes no sense to even speculate…it is crazy.

Just because your arguments start to fail does not make it a proper thing to do to start claiming the posts you don’t like to be off-topic. That is a bad habit of yours.

They don’t fail. They win every-time because they are based on solid evidence. Care to find the evidence that Italy would happily join AH? You wont find it.

Except he didn’t say Russia was near death… only that it was being pushed back.  Why do you insist on mischaracterizing other people’s arguments?

Instead of trolling here or responding to my posts to another person, perhaps you might want to actually make an argument with supporting facts? That argument might be something more than “Italy does have a chance to fight with AH as her ally…and here is some note, conference, or literary citation to support such claims”.

Instead what you do is continually stick with weak ideas “you’re a dick”, “Why do you insist on mischaracterizing other people’s arguments”, “two people emailed me you’re a dick” , “you don’t understand how to make data” ,etc. i got nothing but this gibberish in 50 of your posts.

Wow… are you this much of a walking asshole in real life?

Do you make an argument or just troll?

I think Germany should have a choice to join the Entente on turn 2

:evil:

Maybe WW1 is a good time for US payback on England.  The US can just declare war on England turn 1 if they want.

@Imperious:

That could happen, but the reality of that achievement would need to be made before the first 10 months, which makes the point moot

Why is it moot?

Yes, we should be on the opposite side to America.

Then, when we lose, the Yanks will pay us Marshal aid, and make their German allies foot the bill.

While were at it why not just flip coins for each power at the start of the game.

Heads = Entente
Tails = Central Powers

So i have just done so and it looks like this
Entente = Russia/Austria/UK/Germany/Italy/USA
CP = France/Turkey

This is fun!

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