Japan Tactic to help hold off america

@elevenjerk:

Don’t really know what mistakes you speak of with china.   Spreading thing after turn 1, and 2 (risky attack in suyiyan) and risky attack turn 3, but by that time, china was on its last legs(maybe Russian support?).  UK in the pacific can’t really be too aggressive unless they want to give up Calcutta.   Easily could of stacked Burma round 1 (landing Chinese fighter in Burma), round 3 should of declared and taken yunnan while also having a blocker ready for 37.  If US goes to queens a turn earlier then I probably take Aleutian islands and Alaska to get 75 for the turn.   A good us player would have at least something in Queensland round 2 to maybe in this case help block 37 on round 3.  The US player should have a transport or 2 plus navy /air to handle Aleutian (2 ground and maybe a bomber or 2) while fast units stationed in west US counter Alaska.  Also, the US might just wait a turn before reclaiming Aleutian and just kill the jap tranny since Japan did not make much money until turn 4.  It would allow them to take a TT freely and if they wanted to take more then they would be giving those units to me.    If the US player played this smart, losing Aleutian for a turn would not affect him much especially if Japan waited until turn 4.

Russia has done great.  Every battle they have been getting hits.  He forfeited a few ipcs but is in great position since his infantry have “laser” scopes or something.  The fact he kept his mech and tank and a few more guys has actually proved to be very helpful as my German push has been slowed significantly.    I agree, Russia has done very well.

I would have been more then happy for him to take my Italian navy (which he didn’t because he is smart).    You think he would send his entire navy against it?  A smart player would risk as little as possible in the attack on 97 here  unless he really wants to make the german airforce bleed.  Since germany’s air is still very big, he is more than likely to lose his navy while germany loses at least half of his airforce.  I would still do the minimal approach that leaves less at risk since it handles the threat now and frees up resources elsewhere.  Makes putting subs in 97 easier.  I would have wiped them out with my German air force and then started collecting my med bonus.  As it is on turn 6, I still have my Italian navy (which is worthless) and haven’t received even one bonus with Italy.  It is still a threat to him if he tries to leave the med, so it is something he has to deal with in order to lock down italy.

Maybe you should focus on finishing your game against the dark skies guy instead of telling everybody what they should or shouldn’t do.  Then maybe what you say would hold some merit:)  You are right, I need to continue my most recent PBEM game, which is against Auswanderer not dark skies, but that does not mean that what I say has no merit.  Ask some of the regulars on here, I have ample global experience under my belt.  Over 2 dozen face 2 face, about equal in Abattlemap play by forum, and a good number more in live triple A.  By your logic, anyone who has not faced dark skies do not have any merit in discussing strategy.  How about we find a time to play live on triple A (usually works better for me than PBEM).  We can play for a couple hours then save and pick up later.  Show me your credentials sir, before you criticize mine.  The pic is just there because I can.

Wow! I didn’t know they handed out trophies for Axis & Allies. Finally, something I could actually compete in. When you won that, were you Axis or Allies? Is it strictly a 2 player game or several players taking different countries?

Just thought of an Allied tactic that might mess Japan up. If India and ANZAC just kept putting a bunch of guys on just one of the DEI islands, that would make it really hard for Japan to get the DEI bonus. Not that they couldn’t, but if there were enough Allied troops there, it would take a lot for Japan to get it and perhaps slow them down elsewhere. Then again, if India is shucking too many men to a DEI island, it may make it easy for Japan to take Calcutta. I guess Japan could stop the shucking by stomping the small Indian and ANZAC navies with their own massive fleet but it may take some time to make enough transports and men to take that last island.
Of course, I guess Japan could also simply forget the DEI island bonus, collect money from the rest of the islands, isolate that one and simply move on to other conquests.

I never said his strat will never work, I just have doubts that it is a broken/op strat like he was saying.  I am going to try to pick up my game with Aus this week.You are right, I can be very condescending.  I tend to be very competitive, which leads to me being overly critical about other people’s play style.  I understand that it can be and it has been taken as very rude/offensive to you and likely a good number of others.  I am sorry.

That being said, your last post seemed like that you were assuming that since I have an unfinished game with someone, the game never really started since it was just after japan’s turn 1, that my voice does not count.  I believe that the time, effort, and money that I have put in this game more than makes up for a game that I have delayed (I tend to be lazy when there is a small technical issue that needs fixing).  But then again, anyone can claim anything on the internet, so we really won’t know much about each other unless we played against one another (you never even accepted my challenge anyway when I tried to get you on TripleA).

I understand that you do not consider yourself a star, I do not consider myself one either.  I consider myself well experienced, not the best.  I have not seen you play, yet alone played against you, so I don’t know if your a good player overall or just good in your own clique of friends.  All I know is from your posts(as well as others), claiming good/strong strategies to which I am very skeptical on.  I never challenged your personal skill or ability, all I wanted was to see this strategy in action because I was still skeptical.  I understand that you like to play just for fun, which is perfectly fine.  Just when you post strategies on one of the main websites where many players from all walks of life congregate, don’t be surprised that some people who do not play the game just for fun criticize those strategies.

@ghr2:

I never said his strat will never work, I just have doubts that it is a broken/op strat like he was saying.  I am going to try to pick up my game with Aus this week.You are right, I can be very condescending.  I tend to be very competitive, which leads to me being overly critical about other people’s play style.  I understand that it can be and it has been taken as very rude/offensive to you and likely a good number of others.  I am sorry.

That being said, your last post seemed like that you were assuming that since I have an unfinished game with someone, the game never really started since it was just after japan’s turn 1, that my voice does not count.  I believe that the time, effort, and money that I have put in this game more than makes up for a game that I have delayed (I tend to be lazy when there is a small technical issue that needs fixing).  But then again, anyone can claim anything on the internet, so we really won’t know much about each other unless we played against one another (you never even accepted my challenge anyway when I tried to get you on TripleA).

I understand that you do not consider yourself a star, I do not consider myself one either.  I consider myself well experienced, not the best.  I have not seen you play, yet alone played against you, so I don’t know if your a good player overall or just good in your own clique of friends.  All I know is from your posts(as well as others), claiming good/strong strategies to which I am very skeptical on.  I never challenged your personal skill or ability, all I wanted was to see this strategy in action because I was still skeptical.  I understand that you like to play just for fun, which is perfectly fine.  Just when you post strategies on one of the main websites where many players from all walks of life congregate, don’t be surprised that some people who do not play the game just for fun criticize those strategies.

Wow kudos for acknowledging a fault of yours, so rare to see people take responsibility for them these days.

@BJCard:

If its only worth 5 IPCs and Japan loses a Transport, then the US hardly has to fight for it.

Japan can only block combat movement, so the US can kill your Destroyers with air from Hawaii and then move a fleet to Japan SZ (and have air land on the carrier after it moves in non-combat).  This of course, is if Japan cannot destroy the US fleet outright.

It could be a good move if the US’ fleet is down at Queensland and does not have much to fight Japan in the North.

Personally though, Japan can not compete with a determined US unless they control Asia and the DEI.  To do that, their resources need to be there, not lost in the Aleutians.

I can just absolutely second that. The distraction hurts Japan more than US!

Hey elevenjerk,

checked the saved game (not sure if I did yet or not). JP is doing very well there, good job! RU looks a bit strange, I don’t exactly get why they have so few units^^
First of all, even if I am nicked DOW1 fan does not mean I think its best nor that I always do it. In my latest game I die DOW J3:) and so far I even think it is superior.

Regarding the game I now agree that the drop should not be a super big waste for JP. However I guess I would simple go with DD and TT and drop Inf plus Art –> I can avoid the -5 income. the JP transport is gone for sure and the US transport survives the Sub attack in 60% of the cases. So yes, this drop is kind of a nuisance but you also need to take into consideration what these units could have done otherwise. you e.g. need every ground unit to go for India.

In the end I take back that it is a big waste for Japan but I still think that it somehow distracts to valuable units to take India ASAP:)

Side question to your game. Why did German keep 3 subs in SZ 125?
Why 3? one is enough
Why and after archangel is German controlled?

–> These subs could give UK a headache!

And what happened in the med the first 3 rounds? peace agreement? :)

thanks again for further clarification, makes all sense to me!:-)