• @Krieghund:

    Note: I2 and I3 apply to Soviet territories on the Pacific map only.  The USSR must be at war with Germany and/or Italy before UK (or anyone else) may overfly Soviet territories on the Europe map.

    Awesome clarification, thank you Krieg!


  • Ok, sneaky attack question.

    If Britain has 2 fighters, a carrier, and a cruiser off Gibraltar in z92 and Italy has a cruiser in z94, a battleship in z96, destroyers in z93 and z95, and undefended transports in z99; can Britain attack z94 with its cruiser, z96 with a fighter, and send a fighter to z99 to splash the transports under the allowed assumption of victory in z94 and z96 which would allow the carrier to come and pick up the z99 fighter in non-combat?  (Crete is neutral, Greece is German, and Cyprus and Syria are Italian, so no landings there)

    The intention is to roll 1 round for z94 and z96 and retreat (if attackers are still alive), stranding the z99 fighter so that it dies, and sending the carrier elsewhere in non-combat.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @SAS:

    Ok, sneaky attack question.

    If Britain has 2 fighters, a carrier, and a cruiser off Gibraltar in z92 and Italy has a cruiser in z94, a battleship in z96, destroyers in z93 and z95, and undefended transports in z99; can Britain attack z94 with its cruiser, z96 with a fighter, and send a fighter to z99 to splash the transports under the allowed assumption of victory in z94 and z96 which would allow the carrier to come and pick up the z99 fighter in non-combat?  (Crete is neutral, Greece is German, and Cyprus and Syria are Italian, so no landings there)

    The intention is to roll 1 round for z94 and z96 and retreat (if attackers are still alive), stranding the z99 fighter so that it dies, and sending the carrier elsewhere in non-combat.

    Legal.  Since you can assume your naval attack will succeed and thus, the fighters would have a legal place to land.  Since the carrier cannot make it to recover the fighter, you may Non-Combat move it to whereever you want.


  • @Cmdr:

    @SAS:

    Ok, sneaky attack question.

    If Britain has 2 fighters, a carrier, and a cruiser off Gibraltar in z92 and Italy has a cruiser in z94, a battleship in z96, destroyers in z93 and z95, and undefended transports in z99; can Britain attack z94 with its cruiser, z96 with a fighter, and send a fighter to z99 to splash the transports under the allowed assumption of victory in z94 and z96 which would allow the carrier to come and pick up the z99 fighter in non-combat?  (Crete is neutral, Greece is German, and Cyprus and Syria are Italian, so no landings there)

    The intention is to roll 1 round for z94 and z96 and retreat (if attackers are still alive), stranding the z99 fighter so that it dies, and sending the carrier elsewhere in non-combat.

    Legal.  Since you can assume your naval attack will succeed and thus, the fighters would have a legal place to land.  Since the carrier cannot make it to recover the fighter, you may Non-Combat move it to whereever you want.

    That’s what I thought.  Thanks.


  • Hi All,

    I hope this isn’t answered already in this thread.

    I have a question relating to the new Alpha 3+ AA-guns. The rules state:

    “Each AA gun in the territory may fire up to three times, but only once per attacking air unit.”

    Does this mean that when I have 4 AA-guns in a territory and two planes attack that territory, I get to fire 8 times at the planes? In abstracto: each AA-gun may fire at each plane? (max 3 off course)  :?

    Thanks!


  • Another question:

    Can I land with UK, ANZAC and US planes in Dutch territories (DEI and Suriname), while they are still under Dutch control?  :?

    (And I know USA should be at war)

    One would say that seen the Dutch Queen and government are in London already, they wouldn’t mind some allied planes defending the colonies… :roll:

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @soldaatvanoranje:

    Hi All,

    I hope this isn’t answered already in this thread.

    I have a question relating to the new Alpha 3+ AA-guns. The rules state:

    “Each AA gun in the territory may fire up to three times, but only once per attacking air unit.”

    Does this mean that when I have 4 AA-guns in a territory and two planes attack that territory, I get to fire 8 times at the planes? In abstracto: each AA-gun may fire at each plane? (max 3 off course)  :?

    Thanks!

    No, that means that you get to fire one shot at up to 6 attacking planes.  If an attacker brings 11 planes, then 5 of them will not be shot at by your AA Guns in that battle.


  • @Cmdr:

    @soldaatvanoranje:

    Hi All,

    I hope this isn’t answered already in this thread.

    I have a question relating to the new Alpha 3+ AA-guns. The rules state:

    “Each AA gun in the territory may fire up to three times, but only once per attacking air unit.”

    Does this mean that when I have 4 AA-guns in a territory and two planes attack that territory, I get to fire 8 times at the planes? In abstracto: each AA-gun may fire at each plane? (max 3 off course)  :?

    Thanks!

    No, that means that you get to fire one shot at up to 6 attacking planes.  If an attacker brings 11 planes, then 5 of them will not be shot at by your AA Guns in that battle.

    Up to 12 planes, no?

    In short:
    If you have 4 AA’s and 20 planes attack, you shoot with 12 dice.
    If you have 4 AA’s and 1 plane attacks, you shoot with 1 dice.


  • @soldaatvanoranje:

    Can I land with UK, ANZAC and US planes in Dutch territories (DEI and Suriname), while they are still under Dutch control?  :?

    nee :)

    They have to be land units
    (i don’t know if USA can do this at all, i suppose they can, once at war…)

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Misread what he said.

    1 AA Gun can fire at up to 3 attacking aircraft, even if there are 99 attacking aircraft.  The other 96 over-whelm the fire rate of the gun and get through the AA Gun screen without risk.
    2 AA Guns can fire at up to 6 attacking aircraft, even if there are 99 attacking aircraft.  The other 93 over-whelm the fire rate of the gun and get through the AA Gun screen without risk.
    3 AA Guns can fire at up to 9 attacking aircraft, even if there are 99 attacking aircraft.  The other 90 over-whelm the fire rate of the gun and get through the AA Gun screen without risk.

    32 AA Guns can fire at up to 96 attacking aircraft, even if there are 99 attacking aircraft.  The other 3 over-whelm the fire rate of the gun and get through the AA Gun screen without risk.
    33 AA Guns can fire at up to 99 attacking aircraft, even if there are 99 attacking aircraft.  There are no aircraft to over-whelm the fire rate of the gun and get through the AA Gun screen without risk.


  • @special:

    @soldaatvanoranje:

    Can I land with UK, ANZAC and US planes in Dutch territories (DEI and Suriname), while they are still under Dutch control?  :?

    nee :)

    They have to be land units
    (i don’t know if USA can do this at all, i suppose they can, once at war…)

    Yes, air units at war may land on allied territories, Dutch territories are allies with USA,UK,Anzac,USSR,China, and France.
    Prior to the “special” conversion rule with land units, you can use Dutch territories as landing sites even if you do not intend to take it over, it is still an ally. Dutch is different than other allies, in that you may take over its IPCs unlike any other ally whose capital is in enemy hands without having to liberate it first from the Axis.

    Regarding aagun Min/Max rules: (if I have this hammered down)
    No aagun may fire more than 3 times. No plane may be shot at more than one time by any number of aaguns.


  • Regarding Dutch zones, I wonder if you liberate Holland, and they save their money for a minor factory if you can have them buy units? LOL, I know you can’t, but it would be nice if that income was liberated instead of taken in over in Holland, and they could participate :) Good house rule if you are bored I suppose.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @JamesAleman:

    Regarding Dutch zones, I wonder if you liberate Holland, and they save their money for a minor factory if you can have them buy units? LOL, I know you can’t, but it would be nice if that income was liberated instead of taken in over in Holland, and they could participate :) Good house rule if you are bored I suppose.

    That would certainly help Germany!

    Maybe you should PM Larry.  What a wicked idea!  If there is a complex on Holland (which is legal, unlike all other Dutch territories!) then they would also get it upon liberation.  They could earn 4+4+3+3 = 14 IPC while still giving the allies +10 for having DEI liberated too. (In theory.)


  • @JamesAleman:

    @special:

    @soldaatvanoranje:

    Can I land with UK, ANZAC and US planes in Dutch territories (DEI and Suriname), while they are still under Dutch control?  :?

    nee :)

    They have to be land units
    (i don’t know if USA can do this at all, i suppose they can, once at war…)

    Yes, air units at war may land on allied territories, Dutch territories are allies with USA,UK,Anzac,USSR,China, and France.
    Prior to the “special” conversion rule with land units, you can use Dutch territories as landing sites even if you do not intend to take it over, it is still an ally. Dutch is different than other allies, in that you may take over its IPCs unlike any other ally whose capital is in enemy hands without having to liberate it first from the Axis.

    Regarding aagun Min/Max rules: (if I have this hammered down)
    No aagun may fire more than 3 times. No plane may be shot at more than one time by any number of aaguns.

    Okay, I thought the same as Aleman, but there are mixed signals and I am getting confused  :?

    Sherrif Krieg! Deputies!  :wink:
    Can I get a verdict on landing of allied planes on Dutch territories under Dutch control?

    Thanks!!


  • @special:

    @Cmdr:

    @soldaatvanoranje:

    Hi All,

    I hope this isn’t answered already in this thread.

    I have a question relating to the new Alpha 3+ AA-guns. The rules state:

    “Each AA gun in the territory may fire up to three times, but only once per attacking air unit.”

    Does this mean that when I have 4 AA-guns in a territory and two planes attack that territory, I get to fire 8 times at the planes? In abstracto: each AA-gun may fire at each plane? (max 3 off course)  :?

    Thanks!

    No, that means that you get to fire one shot at up to 6 attacking planes.  If an attacker brings 11 planes, then 5 of them will not be shot at by your AA Guns in that battle.

    Up to 12 planes, no?

    In short:
    If you have 4 AA’s and 20 planes attack, you shoot with 12 dice.
    If you have 4 AA’s and 1 plane attacks, you shoot with 1 dice.

    Jenn and Special Forces, Thanks for your help.

    I am not yet convinced though: the rules state that each AA gun may fire at 3 planes, but not more than once at 1 plane at a time. It doesn’t say that 2 AA-guns together may only fire once in total at the same plane.

    The way I read the rules is that each AA-gun may target 3 individual planes. They don’t have to take regards to the circumstance that there are other AA’s in the territory.

    So: when a player attacks a territory with 1 plane but there are 2 AA-guns, I’d say both AA-guns may fire at that plane.
    So –> 1 plane vs 2 AA = 1diePlane vs 2diceAA

    By that logic, I’d also say that if there are 2 planes attacking 2 AA-guns, the 2 planes both get fire from both AA guns. So 4 dice for AA vs the 2 planes.

    This stops of course when there are more than three planes attacking the teritory. In that case you’d have to split up your dice.

    (Otherwise I wouldn’t really see the added value of the new aa-gun rule.)

    Krieg, Gamerman, Kcdzim:
    What is your verdict?

    Thanks!!! :-)

  • Official Q&A

    @soldaatvanoranje:

    Okay, I thought the same as Aleman, but there are mixed signals and I am getting confused  :?

    Sherrif Krieg! Deputies!  :wink:
    Can I get a verdict on landing of allied planes on Dutch territories under Dutch control?

    James is correct.  However, as a point of clarification, only UK and ANZAC may claim Dutch territories (using land units only) that have not been captured by the Axis.

    @soldaatvanoranje:

    Krieg, Gamerman, Kcdzim:
    What is your verdict?

    Jen and James are correct.


  • Question #1: A3
    Japan lets the US move into its waters. Saves its income multiple turns; then purchases 5 carriers in enemy occupied water as permitted.
    1a: Does this permit Japan to land 10 air units in that sea zone?
    1b: If so, US has to move out to avoid combat, or Japan can trigger Kamikazes in the resulting combat and then Scramble 3 air units…Correct?

    Question #2: A3
    2a: What happens to Mongolia if Germany attacks a true neutral (say Spain)?
    2b: Does this change the Japanese/USSR pact?
    Example….in order to prevent USSR from getting all of those men at once without wasting turns moving in, Germany strikes Spain and Sweden, all true neturals turn pro Allies, does this now permit Japan to attack adjacent USSR holdings without the auto conversion since they are no longer neutral?
    2c: Or does the attack by Japan still convert remaining “newly” pro-allied Mongolian forces to USSR control?
    2d: What happens if Germany triggers, USSR moves into 1 or two Mongolian, then Japan attacks?

    It only matters in terms of how many turns it takes USSR to activate, and how far out of position units have to be to activate them. If they are automatically activated, then it doesn’t matter.

  • Official Q&A

    1a & 1b: Yes.

    2a: It becomes pro-Allies.
    2b: No.
    2c: Yes.
    2d: The remaining Mongolian territories become USSR-controlled.


  • @Krieghund:

    @soldaatvanoranje:

    Okay, I thought the same as Aleman, but there are mixed signals and I am getting confused  :?

    Sherrif Krieg! Deputies!  :wink:
    Can I get a verdict on landing of allied planes on Dutch territories under Dutch control?

    James is correct.  However, as a point of clarification, only UK and ANZAC may claim Dutch territories (using land units only) that have not been captured by the Axis.

    @soldaatvanoranje:

    Krieg, Gamerman, Kcdzim:
    What is your verdict?

    Jen and James are correct.

    Thanks Krieg! Always the best support at AA.org!


  • Follow up question:

    If Allies attack true neutrals: (Spain) and Mongolia becomes Pro axis. Can Japan attack USSR territories next to Mongolia without them turning into Russians?

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