• @oztea:

    neat retreat move, didnt think of that

    Yeah, but it seems cheap.


  • very cheap


  • Not really. When you think about it, all of the turns are technically happening at the same time (a period of half a year). So its kind of just like a joint German and Italian invasion where Italy earns it.


  • Sounds like good strategy to me… Not being ‘cheap’.


  • the cheapness is in retreating the German attack force past yugoslavia to the russian border
    effectively moving the units 2 spaces instead of 1.


  • @oztea:

    the cheapness is in retreating the German attack force past yugoslavia to the russian border
    effectively moving the units 2 spaces instead of 1.

    You don’t you have the gun barrel of a T-34 pointed at your head and forcing you to use OOB rules. ;)


  • i know, i house rule a lot anyway.

    1. Changes To Retreating
    When conducting a retreat, units must retreat to the territory from which the most combat units originated.

    This rule also prevents Italian units retreating to transjordan after an attack on egypt if they have both in AA 50th, which just happend to me recently.


  • This is really strange.  I always thought it was a rule that retreating forces had to return to the territory that they attacked from.  In the case of amphibious assaulting units they return to the transport (vulnerable to dying with the transport).

    So even if you attack from two different territories and retreat, whatever units remained had to go back to the correct territory that they came from.

    Seems really weird to retreat to an entirely different territory, it’s a free move that you shouldn’t get.


  • Units from an amphibious assault can never retreat regardless.

    All other units when they retreat must retreat to a single territory controlled by the attacking player at the start of the turn.  This avoids anything crazy like having to keep your units attacking from different territories in different piles so you can retreat them to where they came from.  So yeah, I agree it’s a little cheap to attack a territory and retreat to a territory on the other side, but that is the way the rules work currently.  Having to retreat to one of the territories your attacking land units came from would make more sense.  I think air units should be able to retreat wherever though, as that makes more sense than the land units.


  • Italy. she needs the income more than Germany and besides Germany just got a ton of IPC’c from France and Finland. also the Germans gained a major and a minor industrial complex from France and are well set. they should be concentrating on operation Barbarossa

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