J1 attack. When does the US get their extra 40 IPC's?

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@mikemikemike said in More for Amphib Assaults, Pac 40:

But, can Japan scramble against US ships when it is ANZACs attack? That is, what if the US also put some surface warships in that sea zone in its non-combat turn- would Japan have to ‘fight’ them in the scramble or just the ANZAC ships?

Japan is scrambling against the ANZAC amphibious assault, not the US ships. The US units are not part of the attack, as it’s ANZAC’s turn, not the US’s.

This is really complicated and might be not addressed by any current rules or errata. thanks (and this is mostly acedemic)

This is addressed by the multi-national forces rules on page 21 of the Rulebook, and by the following FAQ entry:

Q. Say the United Kingdom launches an amphibious assault from a US transport without any supporting UK sea or air units in the sea zone, and then Japan scrambles. What happens?
A. In effect, nothing happens. The US transport doesn’t participate in the sea battle because it’s not the US’s turn. Since there are no attacking sea or air units, there is no sea battle. However, the sea zone can’t be cleared of defending combat units, so the amphibious assault can’t proceed.

Welcome to the forum, Travelman.
You have understood correctly. You will discover that the U.S. needs that extra income, as 17 is not sufficient to prosecute a proper war, once Japan gets going.

Sometimes it can get a little confusing in island sea zones which units are in the sea zone and which are on the island.  The statement is intended to make sure the attacker indicates which air units are which, since they can in many cases get to either space.

they start with what it says they start with on their setup chart

you collect IPCs from NOs along with normal IPC collection

If the Japanese do not take NSW in turn 1, the ANZAC folks can put their destroyer off New Guinea.  With a destroyer there, the Japanese can not reach NSW from the Carolines in a single turn.  The Japanese would have to attack the destroyer in turn 1 or do some other move to open up the sea lanes to NSW.  For these reasons, an early attack on NSW does not look very good.

@MaherC:

what if this is the first game someone buys?   They have 4 US battleships and Japan gets 8 in their box?  Come on.   Anzac has 2 flattops and US gets 4? really?  put some more damn plastic in is all I was saying.  for $90 you should get more pieces than you will ever need (Like how china has 4x the infantry than they will ever need)

Yeah you got my vote.
Presuming everybody has previous editions to fall back on is pretty dumb.

I use the US fleet to build up in Hawaii (and position two DD’s in front of HAW seazone to prevent an all out attack) or Alaska.  Then Japan needs the larger part of its fleet to defend Carolines and other islands. By this time ANZAC has build enough subs to disrupt all southern islands.