A&A Revised Game Balance

Probably should start a new topic for that.

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Probably should start a new topic for that.

Done.

From what I have read and played, the average bid falls about 10.

TMTM requested 12 in a game I’m playing against him. I get the feeling he’s pretty experienced with the Revised edition (I’m not, this will be my first full game of AAR). Since he’s pretty well setup to beat me, I think the bid is about right. I had some trouble early with the increased shipping time, etc and probably messed up early (mismanaged the Atlantic fleet) but I think I played pretty well with Russia, and by the end of round 3 I’ll have a pretty good foothold in Europe (projecting control of WEU with 8 Allied units, EEU with 1 spoiler, Spain 9 US inf, 3 arm, and I’m debating an attack on SEU). ON the other hand, he’s whipping Asia with Japan, and the bid went to Germany…that was parly my fault though as well though I didn’t account for the increased Jpn air force and let a blocking force in BYR get killed J1.

Where did the bid go if you don’t mind my asking? I assume with a bid of 12 it was 4 Inf. or…

Our group has only played 2 games thus far, however I was on the winning side as Axis(Germany) in Game 1 and as the Allies(GB) in Game 2. We play matches with the winning condition of Total Victory, and the match is complete when each player has had the chance to play each Country. To us, bidding is archaic as everyone has an equal chance. It’s a combination of ‘Luck of the dice’ (to determine which Country you play that game as well as who you are partnered with) and the strategy that you use.

I was thankful that I rolled a 2 and got to play as Germany in Game 1 as all of us were adjusting to the new features, I took advantage employing the new tactics with the new units to pull out the victory. I rolled a 3 and got GB in Game 2 and had fun with the new South Pacific set up.

Anyway, our groups overall view is that the new game is balanced and the Fibonacci Attack and the Leonardo Pisano Defense are better suited for revised vs. original.

Where did the bid go if you don’t mind my asking? I assume with a bid of 12 it was 4 Inf. or…

Actually he bid a des in the Baltic, and then bought an AC. Then he used the fleet to slam British shipping, basically killing both fleets on G2. In some ways I didn’t mind at all, I had to deal with that fleet somehow, sometime, in others though, it of course set the Allies back. I could have not exposed the British fleet, I think if I were to do it again that’s what I’d choose, but it wasn’t a terrible outcome.

Do you buy the IC for India on UK1? Did the Gibralter BB survive G1?

I think if Germany bid that I would have united my fleet in sz8 and built an AC there on UK1 then I would have dared him to come out.

Do you buy the IC for India on UK1? Did the Gibralter BB survive G1?

I think if Germany bid that I would have united my fleet in sz8 and built an AC there on UK1 then I would have dared him to come out.

I did not build an IC for India, instead I bought an AC and trn for Britain. I was not going to try an Asian Wall strategy. Perhaps I’ll try that next time. I placed them off the coast of France (moved the BB and trn to join them), so he was able to sortie and hit them, but basically it was a mutual destruction battle. His AC survived, along with 2 planes. He landed the planes in WEU and I killed the empty AC immediately with British air on B2. As I said, I’m not sure if it was the best move (pretty well eliminates B1 purchases plus ftrs), but it did eliminate the Baltic fleet early in the game, which is important, so I’m not saying it was a bad trade. His fleet at the time of B1 was 2 subs, 2 des, 1-2 trn, 1 AC, and 2 ftrs. That’s a respectable shield. As it is now, I have free rain with a Brit fleet in the Baltic, though I don’t think it’ll save me (Germany is the obvious death threat to Russia but Jpn is probably the real stick, he’s got 3 ICs now and will be in range of CAU, and probably take out Novo also.)

The Gibraltar BB did not survive G1, if I remember correctly, he took it out with his bomber.

I still disagree with the placement of navy units in the Baltic…If anywhere…you’d need them in the Med(for Africa, Caucasus, Middle East…) but if I saw Germany building a Baltic fleet…I’d just build a few aircraft…maybe a sub(probably not)…it wouldn’t bother me if my British Airforce was dead…as long as there’s still a big hole in the Baltic Sea…which is inevitable anyway…the smartest thing to do with that navy is to keep it put…relieving pressure on Eastern Europe, Germany, Karelia, and Norway