"Expansions to A&A ?

I thought we were talking about Classic A&A, not Revised A&A?  Because if we are, then you are incorrect.  Subs cannot submerge.  Hence my above post about the subs not being able to withdraw because there is no friendly seazone to withdraw to.

No, technically I’m not incorrect, - but sorry, for not being explicit.

“Submerge” is a part of the 3rd edition (cd-r) rules playable on the classic board, and very popular. Not 2nd edit exactly, but still rules for the classic board. Basically a “2nd edition extended”, really.

I could have said explicitly that I was playing a 3rd edition CD-game, I just thought it was obvious, since I was referring to the CD-R game (The “classic” CDRvideo game, not a revised map).

The CD-R contains 2nd edit rules as well as the specific additional 3rd edition rules: (east-west canada/submerge/naval occupation/arial retreat)  + the very popular rule options: “two hit battleship”, “USSR restricted” etc.

Many people actually play with these rules on the classic board as well. On boardgames in my house-club/playnights (now 3 groups of people) we very rarely play “strictly 2nd” (we soon got bored!). Much more often we play 3rd edition with option: “two hit battleship”, - but yeah, soon we will catch a revised A&A - i believe)

Concerning the nasty Kriegsmarine-destroying monster bug: This awful bug apparently comes creepin’ both in the 2nd and 3rd rules on the CD-R.

:-(

I try to always play with them as well - it’s a good rule. I believe it was an official optional rule with 3.0 first… not sure.

My guess is that debater__ lives somewhere near NJ. Just a thought.

I would be all for it as I believe I could have been the biggest Command & Conquer junkie out there back in the day. It will remove some of the stratagy from the game, and I would be interested to see what they do with the units as in I would assume instead of America having just P-51’s and B-29’s there would be different fighters to buy at various cost levels, that could be cool. I guess it will all depend on the vision of the group putting this out, can’t wait for the first beta copy :D

Guest: Your friend could probably be refering to some of the expantion packs. I have tried two different packs. Both with new kinds of boats. Half-battleships, escorts, and destroyers. Could be more, i dont remember.

thrasher: www.wargamer.com/axisandallies

Very good response. I’d like to add that if you are talking about 1 TR (unsupported) vs. 1 TR (also unsupported), the defender will always win since the attacker has 0 attack value. I.E. essentially you can’t do it.

Unless you play with an always active AA gun, flyovers on AA guns on the Non Combat Move cannot be fired upon by the AA gun.

In any attack of the nature you described, the AA gun must roll one die for each attacking plane (that is, FTRs & BMRs) at the same time–attacker chooses losses. This concept is reflected throughout the game in various different instances. For instance, your dice in Combat are rolled by “column” on the BattleBoard. After you roll for all “columns” then count the raw # of hits, the opponent chooses what got hit (except in the rare case when multi-national defenders cannot agree, in which case the attacker chooses). In research as well, you can’t buy 1 Tech Die at a time and roll till you get a hit; you must decide how many dice you want and roll all of them at once.

Ozone27

Sadly, the v133 patch does not fix everything and there are still a lot logical errors to be dealt with. For instance, for some reason I can still have more than one AA gun in the same territory. It is not these errors that enrage me (anybody can avoid these problems by just not performing them), but the horrid AI in the game and the sudden crashes (the later being somewhat corrected in v133).