I still say the spork. You guys are saying TV, computer, religion, money, etc. in the mind set of bad things those things have done. Im saying spork based on overall usefullness……and the spork definately wins. The spork is a piece of shit. Worst invention ever. Even Ghandi would have a personal vendetta towards the spork and its hard to get on Ghandis bad side. The only thing that contests the spork for supremacy is the “keytar” (that stupid instrument thats supposed to be a keyboard played like a guitar.)
@El:
- Money(is the root of all evil…Error, error! Correct input required.),
Correct input: The love of money is the root of all evil. And women, cause they love money. :-D
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I am sorry.
I ask forgivenesss of those who live in San Francisco.
I ask forgiveness of those kindhearted people everrywhere who are trying to extend the benefits of technology to the less fortunate.
I ask forgiveness of those who may be of alternate lifestyles whose wish is to be welcomed by all; not shunned, nor banned, force marched, isolated, ostrasized, placed in concentration camps, tortured, called names which they(after decades or centuries) ironically append to themselves, beaten, hanged, butchered, crucified, accused of treason, conspiracy, evil acts which were first perpetrated on themselves, and any other forgotten slight or mistreatment I may have a)intentionally, b)misguidedly, c)mistakenly or d)unintentionally inflicted upon my fellow conversationalists.
Living life one day at a time.
Ex-gay, recovering alcoholic,
statute of limitations exceeding bastard trying to live my life to make up for the a–hole I’ve been,
LJ
I was gonna say something moderatingly funny to Jermofoot. However, I realize that I can say some of this carp to people’s faces and get an honest and open response rather than…
Goodbye!
@El:
- Money(is the root of all evil…Error, error! Correct input required.),
Correct input: The love of money is the root of all evil. And women, cause they love money. :-D
Not entirely correct. Power is the root of all evil. There will always be people that want to be more important. In our current world money almost always equals power.
Land too. With land comes money. Then with money comes power. Its a vicious circle (or more like triangle?)
evil is the root of evil. evil is self-propagating. power, money, etc are not evil, but the lust for them is. evil inspires the lust for money and the lust for power.
evil is the root of evil. evil is self-propagating. power, money, etc are not evil, but the lust for them is. evil inspires the lust for money and the lust for power.
Yeah. If you can handle something honestly, including the means to get it, it is not evil. But if you are driven to get it illegally, or improperly use it, it has become an evil.
Edit: On topic, nerve gasses come to mind, along with the entire Hollywood culture. They have no redeeming value. Nerve gasses are a horrible way to die, and Hollywood is filled with a bunch of rich people who think the world whould bow down to them because they are pretty, and also that whatever they say is right, even if it is completely unsupported, unproven, or proven wrong. It is a leech to our nation’s intellect.
Rap would have to come in third, becuase of the immorality it promotes.
Fourth would be politics in general, where normally smart people lose all intelligence, morality and normal thought to win an election, and then spend their time arguing over issues that their party supports, even if they don’t.
evil is the root of evil. evil is self-propagating. power, money, etc are not evil, but the lust for them is. evil inspires the lust for money and the lust for power.
Yeah. If you can handle something honestly, including the means to get it, it is not evil. But if you are driven to get it illegally, or improperly use it, it has become an evil.
Edit: On topic, nerve gasses come to mind, along with the entire Hollywood culture. They have no redeeming value. Nerve gasses are a horrible way to die, and Hollywood is filled with a bunch of rich people who think the world whould bow down to them because they are pretty, and also that whatever they say is right, even if it is completely unsupported, unproven, or proven wrong. It is a leech to our nation’s intellect.
Rap would have to come in third, becuase of the immorality it promotes.
Fourth would be politics in general, where normally smart people lose all intelligence, morality and normal thought to win an election, and then spend their time arguing over issues that their party supports, even if they don’t.
1. Nerve gas is a tool. If someone shoots you, do you blame the gun?
2. The culture of Hollywood arises from the people of the United States of America and the world. Who made them rich? Who made them famous? Why are they subject to paparazzi, and stalking, and unpleasant and critical commentaries? The people.
Also, you may not approve of Hollywood stars being political activists, but at least they are devoting their personal time and energy to causes they believe in. I’d like to point out that EVERYONE usually thinks what they say is right; Hollywood stars are no exception - the exception is the fact that Hollywood stars are attacked for expressing personal beliefs.
3. You can’t really blame rap for promoting immorality. It is easy for a politician to blame rap, it is easy for the media to condemn rap. But the fact of the matter is, the only reason why rap can promote “immorality” is because there is a ready audience for it. Watch any violent movie or TV show; some Afro-Americans or Hispanics, or sometimes Caucasians go on screen and do violent things as rap music plays. But is it rap that is causing the TV show or movie to be violent? Is it rap that causes people to watch those TV shows or movies? I say no. People are being primed to accept immoral behavior; rap is simply a small and disproportionately discriminated-against portion of the cause of the problem.
4. Politicians are often dedicated people that got into politics to try to improve the state of the world. Regrettably, the media concentrates on focusing on the controversial things a small minority of politicians say and do, and on “issues” rather than things that could change the lives of the American people. (Although I don’t blame the media entirely for this; they do have to sell their stories to stay in business). To say that politicians are all immoral is hardly true. The fact of the matter is, politics by its nature involves people, and when you have a multitude of people, you must have a multitude of concessions to attain any progress.
Is it fair for someone to ask for concessions all the time, but be absolutely unwilling to make any concessions in return? Is it possible for a group of people that pursue no common goal to make progress? If you say “no” to those questions, you understand what a politician must do. A politician must sometimes support positions that he or she does not personally believe in, because a politician must be willing to MAKE concessions as well as ask for them. Because concessions are made, politicians can work together to make progress.
If anything, politicians should be even MORE willing to argue for issues they do not personally believe in.
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I like money, I like power, I like women. Is that really so wrong?
Very good arguement, the tool is not to blame for evil, evil people are to blame for evil.
Thus it is not SUVs that are destroying the atmosphere, it’s the liberal soccer mom’s who are driving the SUVs that are destroying the atmosphere.
It is not the Beef Farmer that is making people fat, it’s the people buying Big Macs that are making people fat.
Very good arguement, the tool is not to blame for evil, evil people are to blame for evil.
yes
Thus it is not SUVs that are destroying the atmosphere, it’s the liberal soccer mom’s who are driving the SUVs that are destroying the atmosphere.
not quite
It is not the Beef Farmer that is making people fat, it’s the people buying Big Macs that are making people fat.
:? who ever blamed beef farmers?
Thus it is not SUVs that are destroying the atmosphere, it’s the liberal soccer mom’s who are driving the SUVs that are destroying the atmosphere.
Try not to insert such openly biased statements that obviously aren’t true in.
To the others:
1. I was talking about how bad of a way it is to be killed by nerve gas. It is a tool, but a horrible one. How can something that one drop of will kill you be good?
2. I was more talking about the self-infatuation that Hollywood stars have because all the people like them. Just because they are famous doesn’t mean they are better than the rest of the world. Also, they often use their popularity to say statement that other people couldn’t get away with without supporting it, while they can.
3. Rap is bad because it is used to influence all the people who listen to it. Many of the poor in the inner city ghettos have nothing else to follow, so the rap music becomes what they follow. Since rap glorifies drugs, unsafe sex, immorality, ect., they start practicing what rap music says, andt ehn turn into expensive criminals.
4. Perhaps politicians are dedicated. I may have been wrong on that one. However, you can’t deny the amount of game playing that goes on without anything getting done. Also, since many of them do act based on the wishes of the voters just to get votes, you have to question if they really care.
Thus it is not SUVs that are destroying the atmosphere, it’s the liberal soccer mom’s who are driving the SUVs that are destroying the atmosphere.
Try not to insert such openly biased statements that obviously aren’t true in.
Really? So the SUVs are turning themselves on and driving around! No wonder! And here I thought they needed a human being with a key to turn them on and guide them! Oh my! Well, that changes my entire perspective on life, liberty and the persuit of happiness!
That’s like saying Guns kill people. Gun’s dont kill people. Violent human beings with guns kill people.
I was referring to the pointless “liberal soccer moms” part.
We all know you and every conservative drives a Prius.
@El:
- Money(is the root of all evil…Error, error! Correct input required.),
Correct input: The love of money is the root of all evil. And women, cause they love money. :-D
Not entirely correct. Power is the root of all evil. There will always be people that want to be more important. In our current world money almost always equals power.
I was referring to the original quote. It’s not money is the root of all evil, it’s the love of it that is. I’m not saying one way or another, that’s just the saying…
I was referring to the pointless “liberal soccer moms” part.
We all know you and every conservative drives a Prius.
Nah, the prius has zero visibility out the rear of the vehicle. I drive a Matrix Xr, it’s almost as good in gas mileage as the Prius anyway. (I average 31 MPG but I do mostly highway driving.)
See, I can be green too! :P You just have show me how it is in my best interest to do so. And no, keeping the population of egotistical egomaniacal bags of water and protien from going extinct is not in my best interest.
I was referring to the pointless “liberal soccer moms” part.
We all know you and every conservative drives a Prius.
Nah, the prius has zero visibility out the rear of the vehicle. I drive a Matrix Xr, it’s almost as good in gas mileage as the Prius anyway. (I average 31 MPG but I do mostly highway driving.)
See, I can be green too! :P You just have show me how it is in my best interest to do so. And no, keeping the population of egotistical egomaniacal bags of water and protien from going extinct is not in my best interest.
Good. now just stop the ad hominem attacks on liberal and we can have a nice debate.
I am glad you drive such good cars.
We get 27 in one, and 34 in the other (40 once on Interstate-5.)
Liberal Wacko = A registered Democrat
Liberal = A registered Republican.
Go Jeffersonians!!!
So by “liberal soccer moms” you were referring to Republicans.
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I was referring to both, actually. A liberal whacko is still a liberal, just much farther to the left.
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You said that liberal=Republican, and then imply it is a moderate Democrat.
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You said that liberal=Republican, and then imply it is a moderate Democrat.
Yes. From left to right we have:
Socialist = Communist
Liberal Whacko = Democrat
Liberal = Moderate Democrat = Republican
Conservative Fundamentalist = Republican Whacko
Jeffersonian/Constitutionalist = Anti-Communist
Libertarians and Green party fit in there somewhere, and obviously the lines are not set in stone, they’re a bit fuzzy as to where they start and end, but if you think the mainstream republicans are “conservative” you really need to go back and look at what they do and what conservative means. They’re just far less liberal then mainstream democrats are.
