Germany Strategy concept…

[Guest]

If those German BOMs and FIGs can keep the Allied trannies on the bottom of the Atlantic, then the German forces only have to deal with Russia…  And with Japan moving in hard from the east…

[Nix]

that´s the plan, and to force UK, US to prottect the trn.  (and if i get desperate i can sacrifice AF to sink all trn…

[Axel Allie]

Nice plan!!!

hope it works  :-o

[Flush]

the six FIG and one BR are more than enough for GER to start with.

I would buy 13 INF on round one. This will give you 20 or so INF for the battle for RUS. Most likely RUS will be able to field 35-42 INF for the battle of Moscow on R5 or so.

R2 R3 R4 R5 TANKS! and nothing but.

I would only start buying other pieces, transports or  infantry or subs, depending on how you plan on continuing the war after RUS is knocked out.

[Guest]

If I were not tied up with the Tournament, I would love to give you a quick education on the value of the Kreigsmarine… and the cost to Germany for not having it for the first few rounds…

[Flush]

i look forward to your to post when you are not busy.

maybe russia should put three subs in the caspian sea on R1.

we shall play one day

[Octopus]

Ah Flush, I agree with you on many points, but Armor does not win wars.

Armor is an accellerant.  It is used to secure victories that are already yours, or bring about a defeat that was already in the making.

I do not recommend Germany build so much Armor, and especially not against me.

[Guest]

Amazingly enough… even in this game, Armor serves the same function that Rommel and Patton say the tank is designed for… spearhead.

They provide the speed and punch to break through enemy positions quickly and with reduced losses.  But without INF support, they can be overwhelmed and destroyed pretty easilly.  They may inflict heavy damage, but the tanks are not as effective without supporting units.

[Octopus]

bingo.

[Flush]

by R5 GER can have 25 ARM plus 6 FIG and 20 or so INF, enough to take RUS. A massive stack of tanks will win for GER. That stack of RUS INF will be cut to shreds with 25+ dice rolling at 3 or less. In the revised version it is easier to take RUS than not, the onus is on the GER player. A good stack of tankswill prevent RUS from any type of major offensive action of the eastern front. RUS only starts with 4 ARM in total, totally incapable of anything decisive. GER should not build defensive pieces like INF after R1. INF are for a player hoping for lucky rolling in a defensive death throe.

[Octopus]

You forget, your opponent will be trying to win as well.

I believe it is more difficult in Revised for Germany to take Russia.

Oh, and I am the luckiest man alive.

Beware.

[Flush]

I hope my opponent is trying to win. I don’t play against cardboard pinups.

How would you suggest the allies counter this strat?

[Sankt Hallvard]

If Germany has 25 arm, 20 inf and 6 figs at the gates of Moscow at R5 you’re doing something wrong. Try fighting back? Trading territories will wear Germany down too, putting US/UK troops into norway/karelia/w.europe, maybe s.europe should help too. Liberate Africa and you will see less G arm heading for Moscow. Launch some bombing raids and you’ll further reduce the number of arm. Don’t buy russian navy. Buy 1 fig tops. Buy some art/arm as well to at least give the impression of being able to retaliate on forward exposed arm. Land allied figs in key territories like Moscow, Caucasus, W.russia. Withdraw your troops from the east to bolster Moscow’s defenses. Apply a “KGF” strategy to punish the aggressive Germany. Fall back if needed. Don’t stop trading Caucasus unless you have no other choice. And when the time comes try to force the weakest axis power to invade it. Then sit back and pray for good dice.

[Guest]

Flush… I ended up with a By for Round 3 of the Tournament… I have 3 weeks without a game.  Want to put your money where you fingers are?

We’ll play a game of Revised.  We’ll use the Tournament rule settings (LHTR, no Tech, no NA’s, DAAK Dicey) and I’ll give you the same Axis bid that has been common for the Tournament:  6 IPC, with up to half of that being spent on pre-placed units, the remainder as IPC’s added to Germany and/or Japan’s bank.

You up for it?  We’ll test your Germany ARM theory in a real game against a respectable player…

Let me know if interested, and we’ll get this going…

[Octopus]

Flush,

I recommend you play Switch to get an idea of what we are talking about.

Germany will be put under enough pressure that it won’t have the freedom you speak of.  I consider the dark times of Germany begin by turn 3.

Good luck!

[Flush]

ah gamers bravado! Good to see, game without talk is boring and meaningless I will have to figure out the online part, never done it before. be patient and i will play you for sure. i have looked at some of the games posted and wondered……I do play all my games with seasoned A&A players.

PS Sankt Hallvard the RUS navy JOKE is the most ridiculous  purchase I could think of. Don’t take it seriously.

[Guest]

Not bravado, a serious game offer to illustrate a few points.

The easiest way to play online (with the fewest programs to learn, etc.) is to set up your game board, and post moves as I do in my games, and use the DAAK dicey to calculate the battle results and send e-mails of the battle results.

If you are not a member at DAAK, it is free to sign up.  Let me know your ID, and how you want to use those 6 IPC’s (remember only half of it can be spent on pre-placed units) and I’ll set up the game tommorow evening and post Russia 1.

[Octopus]

@Flush:

I do play all my games with seasoned A&A players.

the level of marination is often relative.  let’s see how you deal with Switch, then we can fire up the BBQ.

[88 Millimeter]

Flush-

I have to agree with the other posters here. Too many fronts for Germany to cover against a good player with a grasp of logistics. 13 Inf G1 is a beautiful thing, but you may want to be a bit more balanced from there on out. No Baltic fleet after UK1 means a free hand in the north for the allies, and that means all those forces that you talked about are facing tall odds. Plus how would you defend W Europe/ S Europe?

To have all that you spoke of ready to capture Russia you’d have to be making sacrifices on many, many fronts- especially economically.

[Flush]

Switch-I will not be ready that quick, be patient and I will get to you. I look forward to playing.

88 Mil-the north atlantic is a secondary theater, sacrifices are fact in almost any strategy.