2013 - AA50-41 League Rules


  • Bolded sections are the major changes from 2012.


  • Changed the games per opponent.  Went to three.  The previous rule of 2 (with potential tie-breaker games) was needed more when we scored by win %, in a points based system its not as much of an issue.


  • @DarthMaximus:

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    2013 league officially starts on Nov. 1.
    Last minute comments/clarifications I need to make?


    I have 2 questions.

    First, a big thumbs up on the rules and changes

    #1) IC placement - you’re saying the IC would be placed during the first round of play, as opposed to before G1?

    #2) On the scoring system - no minimum # of games played?  I guess that works out, because you can’t beat someone who’s 1-0 - they would become 1-1 and you would only get 6 points, not 10.
    Good enough - just asking to clarify….

    So if you beat someone who ended the season 1-1 you would get 6 points.
    If you beat someone who ended the season 3-1 you would get 8 points.
    If you beat someone and that was their only game of the year (went 0-1) you would only get 1 point, no matter how good they are (Bold beat Zhuk in 2012 and that was Zhukov’s only game.  It would have been worth only 1 point!)

    I understand the desire for simplicity, and recognize that a lot of these issues will tend to automatically balance out (sometimes a player will get a lot of points for an easy win, or very few points for a hard win), especially for players who would actually qualify to win the league (at least 8 games).  Also recognize that you don’t know how many games the player will end the year with, unless you’re starting the game late in the year…

    I’m glad the playoffs are gone and you have a system for naming the winner that’s more than just straight win % and takes into account strength of schedule.  As we talked privately, I will continue to post my power rankings that will also serve all league players by making standings continuously updated, as well as having my just for fun PPG analysis.

    Again, I’m a big fan of these changes - looking forward to 2013 league year starting tomorrow


  • About the Bold/Zhukov example, though……

    I know you guys want the system to inherently encourage players to play more games.

    If I’m trying to get high in the standings or win, though, I would want to avoid playing a really good player who won’t play many league games (Zhukov is a prime example, or any other good player who’s transitioning to 1940 or not playing much anymore for whatever reason)… If I win, I will only get 1 point, but if I lose I will lose 3, and at best maybe I have a 50/50 shot at winning (for example)

    but as long as really good players who just dabble in the league don’t have trouble getting a match with another good player, I guess there’s no harm.

    I do have a suggestion, now that I think about it…  How about a minimum 3 points for a win?  So 0-29.9% win pct at end of year gets you +3.


  • @Gamerman01:

    @DarthMaximus:

    –-----------------------------------

    2013 league officially starts on Nov. 1.
    Last minute comments/clarifications I need to make?


    I have 2 questions.

    First, a big thumbs up on the rules and changes

    #1) IC placement - you’re saying the IC would be placed during the first round of play, as opposed to before G1?

    No, that was for bidded ICs.  You can place at the end of rd 1 since it would have been there at the start of your turn.  I’m not looking to change any IC rules.  If you bid 15, use it on an IC, place on Aus.  You can place 2 units on Aus at the end of UK 1.  Just like a normal bought IC from the previous turn.

    @Gamerman01:

    @DarthMaximus:

    –-----------------------------------

    2013 league officially starts on Nov. 1.
    Last minute comments/clarifications I need to make?


    #2) On the scoring system - no minimum # of games played?  I guess that works out, because you can’t beat someone who’s 1-0 - they would become 1-1 and you would only get 6 points, not 10.
    Good enough - just asking to clarify….

    The minimum is still 8 games.  Rule 3.

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    Too late to look at changing the scoring.  Or Better yet, I’m too lazy  :-D  to do it now and doubt I’ll look at it tomorrow.

    Correct, in you assesment of avoiding a “good” player who won’t play a lot, however, it doesn’t have to be a “good” player.  It will be a risk to play any player who might only play 1-2 games.  You beat them and they are 0-1, no matter how good they are if that is their only game you’ll get the minimum points. [Strategy Alert]  You are going to want to play players that have wins.  Its very hard to stay in the bottom tiers and almost impossible if you get just 1-2 wins.  Typically those that are winless don’t play that much and simply by geting 1 win you’d have to lose 10 straight to fall back into the bottom tier.  That is unlikely to happen.  Likewise any player that has 2 wins would have to lose 18 and they would still be at the 10% tier (2 pts).


  • @DarthMaximus:

    The minimum is still 8 games.  Rule 3.

    I meant a minimum in calculating scores, not the minimum to qualify for the title, but….
    it doesn’t really matter


  • Ziggurat (Allies +7) beat Vance (axis), who conceded after screwing up his G3 build after a costly sealion.


  • @Vance:

    Ziggurat (Allies +7) beat Vance (axis), who conceded after screwing up his G3 build after a costly sealion.

    sorry wrong thread.


  • pretty cool new league rules…  who is running the g40 league, think they could follow suit?


  • So you still cant play lowluck-games in the League?

    Best


  • A couple of things.

    I think we are going to nix the “minimum game” requirement (for AA50).  Obviously a lot of people are playing G40 now.

    @yamamot0:

    So you still cant play lowluck-games in the League?

    Best

    I’m fine with LL if both players agree before hand.


  • @DarthMaximus:

    3 - You must play at least 8 games against 5 different opponents.

    You mean to be eligible to win the league, right?

    Maybe this is contributing to the mass exodus from AA50 - some folks might think that to play a league game they must commit to playing 8 games against 5 different opponents!

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