@vodot Yeah, definitely seems like the US would need some kind of economic boost if they have a split economy. I bet playing like this would be more historically accurate and more fun, especially with more than 2 players.
Impressions after 2 plays….
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I’ll rather expand UK fleet on India and let Japan come to me, that’s the point, UK Carrier and FTR and better at defence, while Japan’s FTR and Carrier outside E.Indies is WORSE at attacking. So basically, there is NO need to attack E-Indies fleet, rather expand on it.
Curious what you would expand the Indian fleet with…right now, I could see Japan sending 1CV, 1BB, Bomber, 4FTR…against 2CA, CV, 1(2) FTR, DD for the UK…with 1 FTR Japan will smoke you at 92%, with 2FTR, you are looking at 71% for Japan…You then have weakened your Indian defense force, and Japan will ensure to front load India to crush it ASAP. I would rather you attack E. Indies, and buy SS to protect your CV from any attacks (not saying to buy SS, but if you were going to buy naval, that’s what I would do).
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Curious what you would expand the Indian fleet with…right now, I could see Japan sending 1CV, 1BB, Bomber, 4FTR…against 2CA, CV, 1(2) FTR, DD for the UK…with 1 FTR Japan will smoke you at 92%, with 2FTR, you are looking at 71% for Japan…You then have weakened your Indian defense force, and Japan will ensure to front load India to crush it ASAP. I would rather you attack E. Indies, and buy SS to protect your CV from any attacks (not saying to buy SS, but if you were going to buy naval, that’s what I would do).
Hi again,
Ok then, see the fun, you will have to use 67% of Japanese Airforce on this + 1 Bomber, doesn’t leave you with much to use on land does it? Only 2 FTR to use somewhere else, that’s the beauty of it, it takes so brutality much resources for Japan to attack the expanded UK fleet on India.
Now, let me tell you what I would buy on India:
1 Battleship, 1 Destroyer + 1 INF = 31 IPC - 3 units allowed to build on India
That would give UK = 1 Carrier, 1 Battleship, 1 Cruiser, 1 Destroyer + 2 FTR, I would either use the FTR from Egypt to land on the carrier OR the Russian fighter to land on it right away on R1 turn, I don’t need to use that one Russian FTR against Germany actually, Belorussia is easy for me to take anyway, only 3 German INF there.
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The BB/DD buy does lower it only a percent or two, but “could” be affective…I would change my 2trans/CV buy with Japan, but expect Burma to fall J1 and have an air land in FIC…you would lose India possibly J2, for sure J3…and that would totally burn you…your fleet could do damage to Japan’s Navy, but at the cost of the IC? bad trade in my opinion.
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I would still hit the two non-FTR China territories but give up Russia’s back door in order to crush India on J2 with your naval buys (entire Japan fleet at FIC on J1).
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I would still hit the two non-FTR China territories but give up Russia’s back door in order to crush India on J2 with your naval buys (entire Japan fleet at FIC on J1).
Minus the sub and my J1 buys…so not the ENTIRE fleet…but again, your naval buy at India is a bad move if you don’t attack E. Indies.
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I would still hit the two non-FTR China territories but give up Russia’s back door in order to crush India on J2 with your naval buys (entire Japan fleet at FIC on J1).
Minus the sub and my J1 buys…so not the ENTIRE fleet…but again, your naval buy at India is a bad move if you don’t attack E. Indies.
You can’t attack the Japan fleet at FIC on UK2…99% in Japan’s favor…bad bad odds.
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I would still hit the two non-FTR China territories but give up Russia’s back door in order to crush India on J2 with your naval buys (entire Japan fleet at FIC on J1).
See, you have to GIVE UP U.S. Chinese territory of Szechwan where the U.S. FTR is. And also as you said you have to give up Russia’s backdoor where I will have at least 5 INF on Buryatia + 2 INF on Yakut. That’s fun, for Russia and UK, not so fun for Japan.
Of course you can try to move all your FTR and Naval Fleet in order to strike my Indian fleet on J2 turn. But don’t forget, it’s UK2 turn before J2 turn, I would once again build naval forces, another Battleship + Destroyer + INF or maybe 2 Cruisers + Armor on India. As you can see, I can as a UK player force you do to things MY WAY, just as I force “Cow” to do things MY WAY where he falls into my Russian traps all the time with Germany.
Don’t forget that U.S. Naval Power is on it’s way in the Pacific both on US1 turn and US2 turn. Also if you forgot, I have a Cruiser + Sub + Transport on Australia to have fun with couple of Japanese Islands down there on UK1 and UK2 turn.
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J1 3inf/FTR/Bomber vs. 2inf China North, inf/art/3FTR in Yunan, hold the line up North with 4inf, buy 2DD/2Trans
5inf in Buryatia vs 4inf in Mancuria? Really? Ok, so hit me on the coast with your US FTR/2inf…tha’s why I have more trans/troops coming…
4inf/2art/1tank/4FTR/1Bomber against India J2, and withdraw the fleet back to Japan to hit Russia (either Buryatia or Manchuria depending on your suicide maneuver).So you lost China, India, and Buryatia by J2, and J3 I will finish off your feeble US troops remaining…again, you’ve been countered…why not build your IC in Alaska too…I’m sure the Axis will love playing you.
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J1 3inf/FTR/Bomber vs. 2inf China North, inf/art/3FTR in Yunan, hold the line up North with 4inf, buy 2DD/2Trans
5inf in Buryatia vs 4inf in Mancuria? Really? Ok, so hit me on the coast with your US FTR/2inf…tha’s why I have more trans/troops coming…
4inf/2art/1tank/4FTR/1Bomber against India J2, and withdraw the fleet back to Japan to hit Russia (either Buryatia or Manchuria depending on your suicide maneuver).So you lost China, India, and Buryatia by J2, and J3 I will finish off your feeble US troops remaining…again, you’ve been countered…why not build your IC in Alaska too…I’m sure the Axis will love playing you.
LOL, stop dreaming, please. You are like Cow regarding Ukraine, I can see that you have no comments on that one :)
Really, you will attack India with all the FTRs and Bomber? LOL, good luck getting throught my UK Fleet with NO air support. What are you going to do, send 2 BB, 2 Carriers which suck at attacking, 1 Cruiser, 1 Sub and 1 DD �  V.S � My fleet which will have 2 Battleships, 1 Carrier with 2 FTR on it, 2 Destroyers and 1 Cruiser, GOOD LUCK on that one, man!
When we talk about India, I already have 3 UK INF there from earlier + 1 UK INF from Iran, that’s 4 INF. I have built 2 INF, one each turn UK1 and UK2. Which means I have 6 UK INF on India. Furthermore, I will have 1 U.S. FTR on India. Oh and don’t forget, I can move 2 FTR from London to India by the UK2 turn. UK1 turn, 2 FTR to Arkangelsk, and on UK2, voila, they are guess where? In India! And I have AA-GUN, again GOOD LUCK on taking India OR my Indian Fleet, lol :)
Oh, yes, I will hit the coast, which is Kwantung with the U.S Forces. Good that you have “more transports” coming through, you sure will need them, when I gather the whole U.S. Pacific Fleet by taking Iwo Jima already on US1 and while I take New Guinea from you on UK1. � Those transports of yours will sure need some back up right there :)
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i like it. then on us2, on to the philippines with the jap fleet pinched or running north.
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And leave Russia to itself with no UK or US assistance?
New Guinea? I’m worried about losing New Guinea AND Iwo?
And that sea battle?
Japan: 2DD, 2BB, 2CV, 4FTR, 1 Bomber, CA, SS vs UK: 2BB, CV, 2FTR, 2DD, 1 CA?
http://www.dskelly.com/misc/aa/aasim.html looks like 99.1%…yep…I’m the one needing the luck!
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Oh, so you want to take the Phillipines with the US fleet next?
2DD (the ones I built), 4FTR, 1 Bomber, 1 CV, 2BB vs. 2DD, CV, 2FTR, 1BB? yep…that’s 99% as well ( I take into account loss of my sub, both DDs, one CV, CA on the UK attack).
Next question?
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Oh hell, I forget my J2 build on that US fight as well….who’s going to be doing the running now?
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Oh hell, I forget my J2 build on that US fight as well….who’s going to be doing the running now?
jump to 3:27 and you’ll find out where I stand…
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i have to see the board at this point lol. it’s at least a threat to u so u must buy more navy J2, precisely when u need to buy more asia army. it helps russia by keeping nips outta their arses and keeps alot of fighters that can rush to russia in 1 turn. and britain’s $$ is good still, no africa for germany.
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I don’t need Africa to win…who the hell conquers the world by focusing on Africa? NOBODY. The key for Germany is Moscow…Egypt is a nice have, but I’m not going to sit there and pour resources into that damn continent…and as Japan, I can afford to by navy for awhile…I’ll have Russia’s 3IPCs for the back door, China’s 4IPCs, and AT LEAST Burma for 1 more…do I care about New Guinea and Iwo…no…but I just proved in the post you come for the Phillipines, and your fleet will get smoked…and all that effort to stop Japan, now give Germany a free pass to poop on the Russians…Game, Set, Match.
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If you go so quick with the Allies, you will fail…quick victories are for the Axis, long games favor the Allies…
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If you go so quick with the Allies, you will fail…quick victories are for the Axis, long games favor the Allies…
i certainly agree with that but KGF lets nips go beastmode!
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If you go so quick with the Allies, you will fail…quick victories are for the Axis, long games favor the Allies…
i certainly agree with that but KGF lets nips go beastmode!
Completely disagree…with a combined effort by the UK to wipeout the E. Indies fleet and a controlled buildup at India, you can create a stalemate with Japan at India. Japan will be forced to build to match/attempt to outproduce Indian builds, but to do so allows the US Pac Fleet to hit Solomons as a stepping stone to Phillipines/protect Austrailia (not a real target for Japan, but hey, have to give the Aussies some comfort). The goal for UK2 (assuming you have just the CV and 2 FTRs left) should be to use the FTRs/transports to cause additional reinforcements from Africa and Austrailia to India and hold the line. Japan will either have to defend to prevent crazy Brits from gutting them or risk a battle that they may not win, which will result in the gutting of Asia. The Japanese should not go past China/Russian backdoor…the hope here is for India to attack Japan…whomever is the aggressor will most likely lose the battle.
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And leave Russia to itself with no UK or US assistance?� Â
New Guinea?�  I’m worried about losing New Guinea AND Iwo?
And that sea battle?
Japan: 2DD, 2BB, 2CV, 4FTR, 1 Bomber, CA, SS vs UK: 2BB, CV, 2FTR, 2DD, 1 CA?
http://www.dskelly.com/misc/aa/aasim.html�  �  looks like 99.1%…yep…I’m the one needing the luck!
And leave Russia to itself with no UK or US assistance? Â
New Guinea? Â I’m worried about losing New Guinea AND Iwo?
And that sea battle?
Japan: 2DD, 2BB, 2CV, 4FTR, 1 Bomber, CA, SS vs UK: 2BB, CV, 2FTR, 2DD, 1 CA?
http://www.dskelly.com/misc/aa/aasim.html   looks like 99.1%…yep…I’m the one needing the luck!
Yes, you are the one needing luck, as I said, I am STILL waiting for comments regarding Ukraine, or do you admit I was right? If not, do tell us all how it’s not right, lol.
Oh, NOW you want to take on my Indian Fleet, NO problem there, however, explain to us all how do you TAKE INDIA by taking out my fleet, while I still have at least 5 INF and 4 FRT + AA-gun on India? Where are your 4 little INF with 2 art and 1 tank which are supposed to take out my 5 INF and 4 FTR? Can’t see them anywhere, lol.
Doesn’t matter if you odds at “winning” are high, Japan will still suffer HEAVY losses, and that is the point, and India still lives, you DID NOT take India, that did NOT happen.
I still haven’t experienced you countering anything yet. US Fleet on Iwo Jima is there ready to strike on US2. Whatever survived of your fleet on India, can’t get to Japan in one move. Which means, U.S. can dump forces again in East Asia, or support Russia furthermore, or attack whatever you buy outside Japan on J2. Because rest of what is left of your fleet is on India. Â When you move that away from India, I can once again, just start bying Naval power, why ? Because you are too weak ON LAND to take India, you just can’t take it. To much to think of, U.S. guys taking East-Asia, Russia having 7 INF in the north, and India bying units all the time. Not to mention that US will build units on their 1st and 2nd turn, making it impossible for Japan to handle it.
Since Japan is to weak on land to take India, I would reconsider what I would buy on UK.
UK1 = Save 31 IPC
UK2 = I have at least 62 IPC to buy for, I could buy 3 Battleships and place them on India.Guess where my fleet will merge on UK1 ? On SZ30 with my fleet from Australia. I’ll have 1 Carrier + 2 FTR + 2 Cruisers + 1 Sub. You can attack with 3 FTR + 1 Carrier which sucks + BB.
TRY TO RUN THAT ON YOUR CALK, LOOOOOL, guess odds are a LITTLE bit different? :)
Now India and the UK have a lot of possibilities, you never now if I will build 3 BB on UK2. But I will have a merged UK Fleet near by, which will be constant threat to Japan. You just CAN NOT sink it on SZ30 with 3 FTR + Carrier and BB. This is FUN :) I don’t even need to mention India, I will have another 2 FTR there from Arkangelsk, 1 US FTR from Tibet, 1 UK FTR from Egypt, that’s 4 FTR on land on India. I can build a lot of FTR or Battleships, whatever I like, just looking at what you bougt on J1. When we play, you never know what I will decide to do, building a fleet on UK or India, because I saved IPC from 1st round and you do NOT know HOW I will position myself on UK2.
Oh, I forgot also that I can take with me 2 INF from Australia and dump them in India on UK2, making India have 6 or 7 INF with 4 FTR.
Yes, Russia will be more alone against Germany, but if some who do argue to send German tanks into Caucasus so I can slaughter them so easy on R2 turn, then Russia will be all fine, when 9 Artilleries + 4 Armor + 1 FTR and a lot of INF says hello to Germans on either Caucasus or Ukraine on R2 turn. And the fun part is, in a real game, you will never know if I will build anything on UK or not, so most German players will put their fighters on Western Europe, making it easy for Russia to strike hard. If you move them to Ukraine, then it’s easier to build UK fleet on London instead of India. Pretty simple actually.
See, you just CAN’T take India that easy!