Does taking Spain with USA spell doom for the Axis?


  • I’ve always wanted to fight someone who would stack in Amur and the Spain thing sounds fun too. If you want a challenge right now James, I am up for it.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Spain just doesnt sound effective because of the moving through Turkey thing.


  • Jen -
    The issue I see with that kind of turn order change is that the Allies are the reactive power, not the Axis.  Just like UK’s every action, particularly early game, is entirely based on what Germany does, Japan-American has the same sort of relationiship.  Japan has the initiative and freedom, while America has the ability to react to their moves.  It seems to me that that relationship is fundamental to the Axis-Allies dynamic.


  • @Kobu:

    I’ve always wanted to fight someone who would stack in Amur and the Spain thing sounds fun too. If you want a challenge right now James, I am up for it.

    I’ll give it a whirl, but I am new to forum games, so you’ll likely need some patience. I can post moves every other day I believe. Do you want to create the game, and play Germany, then I’ll see if I can load the map and post my moves as well. Abattlemap is what I have, and I believe I know how to roll dice. This way, the others can watch the play and see how to respond.

    I will say, its a bit of a stretch since you know what I am planning. Probably not advisable since you will likely prepare from the get go. I’ll test this idea, but I won’t let you know if I’ll do the aggressive, conservative or moderate approach.

    Oh, well, if it works after you know what I am going to do, then it has merit.

    Here is a sample of the Abattlemap if I can load this right, I’ll also need to learn how to update the various boxes.

    sample.AAM


  • There’s not much Axis can do in anticipation in my opinion. I’ll have Germany done tonight and PM you. I’ll need scramble orders for the attack.


  • @Kobu:

    There’s not much Axis can do in anticipation in my opinion. I’ll have Germany done tonight and PM you. I’ll need scramble orders for the attack.

    Well, if you send in enough to clear in one round, I won’t scramble….the only place I would might be sz 109.
    If this helps, as long as there are more than 4 pieces in 110 and 111 I’ll keep my planes on land.

    3 or 4 I will have to consider. Also if you are hitting London to clear planes, and there is a sea battle to escape too, thats a good time to scramble as well :)


  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @Alsch91:

    Jen -
    The issue I see with that kind of turn order change is that the Allies are the reactive power, not the Axis.  Just like UK’s every action, particularly early game, is entirely based on what Germany does, Japan-American has the same sort of relationiship.  Japan has the initiative and freedom, while America has the ability to react to their moves.  It seems to me that that relationship is fundamental to the Axis-Allies dynamic.

    Agreed, in part.  My thoughts were thus:

    1)  America would not be able to declare war until Round 4, otherwise, the turn order would screw up the balance of power as it currently stands.

    2)  It’s already a pain in the butt to run 5 allied nations online. (America, China, England, India (which literally is part of England, but realistically feels like a seperate power) and Australia.)


  • 1 - I understand that, but my original point remains valid, I think.

    2 - I say this lovingly, as I feel the same way sometimes:
    Suck it up, Princess.  :lol:


  • Nice thread James!!! :-)

    I’ve thought about an Allied Spain gambit for a while.  I believe if the Allies can somehow get Turkey and Spain it could work.  I definitely think that Spain can’t be taken early- I think its a late game tactic when the Germans press into Russia and leave France/Italy open- Spain maybe be a necessity to stop the VC win and gain an advantage.

    I think a Spain gambit is tough, but someone is gonna figure a way to pull it off in certain situations.  Maybe you’ll be the one- keep thinking. :-)

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