1939 Map

[Pvt.Ryan]

No I ment for the module. Also are ALL air and naval bases on the board actually there? Plus ANZAC has no ships on my setup.

[Tigerman77]

@Pvt.Ryan:

No I ment for the module. Also are ALL air and naval bases on the board actually there? Plus ANZAC has no ships on my setup.

Yes, all the air and Naval bases are true……some territories could have had air bases but I had to limit it to just the major bases. This is why leningrad doesn’t have one. I fixed this but haven’t posted the updated charts.

Sea zone 99: 1 DD, 2 subs, 1 Transport

[Pvt.Ryan]

So all bases on the board are also on the “setup”?

[Tigerman77]

@Pvt.Ryan:

So all bases on the board are also on the “setup”?

I’m almost 100% positive yes. If not it is a mistake that no one has pointed out!

[Tigerman77]

I was reading on the House rules forum about different ASW warfare. Just wanted to know what people think about applying this to the 39 game.

f Submarine use Global 40 rules in conjunction with; are detected by destroyers on a 1/1 basis. (Ex. 3 DD’s and 1 CA attack 5 submarines. 3 submarines are detected and the other 2 get a preemptive strike and can retreat to nearest friendly sea zone or stay and fight. These 2 submarines can retreat only because they cannot submerge in a sea zone that contains a destroyer. Even if the preemptive strike destroys 1 DD, the 3 submarines that were detected are still detected and cannot retreat or submerge.) The 1/1 detection method is set at the beginning of combat and does not change during the battle.

Let me know what you guys think?

[Sgt. Wonko]

I really like this rule, in fact I was about to suggest it to you. I usually push for it in the games of regular G40 I play. We’ve also played with allowing subs to pass through sea-zones with destroyers on a 1-1 basis. Definitely makes subs sneakier and fun to use.

[Tigerman77]

Rules and setup updates comming in the next few days. Thanks to Sgt. Wonko for all the help!

[De Gaulle]

So is this game preety balanced? And easily transferable to a D6 system?

[Tigerman77]

Revision to rules and setups are posted at the beginning of this thread. Hope we are getting close to perfection.

[cminke]

what do you recomend for navel fighters,and navel torpedo bombers for Japan and usa?

[Tigerman77]

@cminke:

what do you recomend for navel fighters,and navel torpedo bombers for Japan and usa?

for Japan I took the fighters and tacs and painted them blue. For US I took hellcats and tacs and painted them hunter green. Both colors are the same as that nations marines! That’s what I did.

[cminke]

ok tanks, that makes scene(i dont know y i didn’t think of it my self)
and are the maroon russains from eruope (1999) the red ones?

[cminke]

also w/ the grey Germans  are they a true “GREY” or of set black?  your pictures are deceiving.  better question…are they the grey from whats his face’s unit comparesion #2

[Tigerman77]

I actually Used a panzer grey and a light grey. The panzer grey isn’t quite as distinguishable as the light grey from the black, but it works!

[radar231]

@Tigerman77:

Revision to rules and setups are posted at the beginning of this thread. Hope we are getting close to perfection.

Hi,

Went through the revised rules and maybe I found a couple of ’ mistakes ’ to correct :

Under Political Situation, at # 7 USA, 2nd para,2nd line ’ them together until RUSSIA reaches its full production of 80 '. I think you meant US not RUSSIA, didn’t you ?

At #9 Communist China. It is mentionned that you can’t attack Nationalist China twice, 3rd and last sentence. Maybe remove the last sentence. But it is no big deal if you leave it there, it is like to make a point.

One more : On the Japan set up sheet, in : Infantry special, 2nd line, change the word bonzai to banzai.

That’s all.

Also ref sneak attack, I read that you can only do one sneak battle in that attack, is that so ? What I meant is I sneak attacked, on J1,  the US Pacific fleets in sea zones # 120 and # 133 and destroyed both fleets in one go with almost no unit lost to Japan and took San Francisco, and the US lose the 20ipc NO. It will be a while before the US can retake it. At J2, all the Pacific US convoys were occupied , and US is down to around 60, ipc wise, then substract the convoys and the US will collect less than 50 ipcs… Am I doing something wrong or is it ok so far ?

J.  8-)

[cminke]

is the sneek atteack basicly like rolling twice befor you oponent attacks back? will that work?

[radar231]

@cminke:

is the sneek atteack basicly like rolling twice befor you oponent attacks back? will that work?

No. There is two impulses in the turn of the sneak attack. Only Germany ( on its first turn  ) and Japan ( between turn 1 and 7 ) can do it.

First Impulse :                                    Second impulse :

1. Build & repair units                          1. Combat moves
2. Combat moves                                2. Combat
3. Combat                                          3. NCM
4. Non combat moves                          4. Adjust IPC’s & collect income
5. Place built units                              5. End second impulse
6. End first impulse

Ref to my question about Japan sneak attack on the US is because of the special rule concerning the US. It reads as follow : First time US is attacked before turn 7, US ships,air/naval bases, and aircraft can not return fire for the first round of combat ( so there it is like rolling twice before you opponent attacks back, in part ). Ships can not return fire until round 3.

I did a sneak attack on 2 US sea zones ( 120 & 133 ) in turn 1 with Japan, was the sneak attack allowed on both or only one of those sea zones ?

J.  8-)

[radar231]

Here is the question and answer that bugs me, from page 25 in the rules, :

 For the first time the US is attacked by Japan, does the lack of return fire apply to multiple battles or only one? Just one Battle

I guess you can say that it is clear that it is only for one battle and that only one of my attacks was legal. If it is so, then I should have had a harder time to destroy the fleet in sea zone 120 or 133.

A sneak attack should be a sneak attack all the way, I.E. more than one battle. But then again maybe it is too strong for more then one battle.

Well, after a night sleep, I guess that I answered my own question. I will abide by the ruling for now. Sorry for the rambling.

J.  8-)

[Tigerman77]

@radar231:

@Tigerman77:

Revision to rules and setups are posted at the beginning of this thread. Hope we are getting close to perfection.

Hi,

Went through the revised rules and maybe I found a couple of ’ mistakes ’ to correct :

Under Political Situation, at # 7 USA, 2nd para,2nd line ’ them together until RUSSIA reaches its full production of 80 '. I think you meant US not RUSSIA, didn’t you ?

At #9 Communist China. It is mentionned that you can’t attack Nationalist China twice, 3rd and last sentence. Maybe remove the last sentence. But it is no big deal if you leave it there, it is like to make a point.

One more : On the Japan set up sheet, in : Infantry special, 2nd line, change the word bonzai to banzai.

That’s all.

Also ref sneak attack, I read that you can only do one sneak battle in that attack, is that so ? What I meant is I sneak attacked, on J1,  the US Pacific fleets in sea zones # 120 and # 133 and destroyed both fleets in one go with almost no unit lost to Japan and took San Francisco, and the US lose the 20ipc NO. It will be a while before the US can retake it. At J2, all the Pacific US convoys were occupied , and US is down to around 60, ipc wise, then substract the convoys and the US will collect less than 50 ipcs… Am I doing something wrong or is it ok so far ?

J.  8-)

Thanks for the find on those mistakes.
  As far as the sneak attack I will go back and look at how I can clarrify that rule. What I was shooting for was a recreation of the attack on Pearl. I wanted Japan to be able to hit the US hard but only in 1 battle, and only on the first impulse. Nice move though to hit the US hard on turn 1.

[WARRIOR888]

I looked at your special units for initial set.  I noticed France has none.  Why not consider adding the French Foreign Legion who where an integeral part of French North African Colonies?  Give them a higher attack and defense rating than normal French Infantry.  Limit them to 6-8 total at the start of the game and they can’t be constructed.