Ok, fair enough. Care to highlight what improprieties the Republicans were (or are) guilty of in Florida?
No b/c you will just refute them with the same kind of backwards reasoning that has lead to to believe the democrats are horribly guity of something in Illinois in the first place. It’s rather naive to think that this doesn’t go on in both parties, for no other reason than politics is a dirty business. If you accept that then you must accept to do well in it you must bend/fracture some rules to do so. Since the Republicans have done incredibly well since 1964 this is a logical assumption to make. After all the two worst presidents in US history, Carter and Hoover were two of the most principled men to hold that office which is why they failed.
No one has NO opinion about anything going on. Sorry to those of you who think you’re undecided, but I doubt you really are.
When the undecideds say they are undecided what they are really undecided about is whether Bush should get another term. That this is a lingering question for him in October does not say many good things. Were Bush to be reelected it would be one of the most unprecedents things to occur in American politics since he clearly hasn’t won over nearly half the people, and hasn’t had the most successful first term ever. I expect that if he is reelected he will have one of the most disasterous 2nd terms in US history. In fact it might even be worse than Hoovers term.
The one scary thing is the big cities, Demies are getting droves of ignorant to register , and obviously, they will vote Democrat, because they are ignorant.
Or they will vote democrat b/c they are enlightened. The Reps love to point out the media and academic bias as being liberal, but this being the case doesn’t that mean their base of support comes from the rural peasants and the hill people. In otherwords doesn’t this presuppose that their backers are ignorant.
I’m sorry, but it’s my opinion that the only people on this country you DON’T want to get ticked off is the military! They have all the guns!
No we don’t care b/c our society is not based upon martial valor therefore the military serves the people not the other way around. That Bush may have changed this shows he has subverted the ‘real’ traditional American values of liberty, equality and justice. All of which he claims to be for.
We are still finding ballot boxes from Republican communities here in Chicago and the suburbs. (Daily Herald - Chicago - reported that they found 3 boxes in the Chicago River when they were checking fecal material levels. Of course, this being Daley’s country, the report was buried on page 28-32, somewhere in there. I want to say 29, I’ve got it in my garage. But the report did say that it held some ballots from the 2000 election (most had been destroyed by pollution, current and time.))
But what is hard for most conservatives to understand is that the mere possibility of wrongness does not mean wrong was done. The same methadology can be applied in Florida. To say that b/c there were so many errors and mistakes in 2000 that this constituted an effort to defraud the voters is preposterous. In both cases one must investigate the intent behind these actions. Were those ballots thrown there after or before the election,
Running against Reagan in the 80’s is sort of akin to running against FDR during WWII. You sorta only did it to prove that your party wasn’t dead, but you really didn’t expect to win anyway. wink That’s TOTALLY my perspective and is not based in ANY fact or rumored fact!
Yes and if you go back to 1960 you will find Illinois goes democrat very often. Throw out the results tainted by landslide ie 1980, 84, 72 and 88, and you will see it has voted democrat 5 of 7 times.
Yes, anyone who discards a vote where the intent of the voter was plainly obvious, FOR ANY REASON, should be disenfranchised on the spot and permanently removed from any municiple, state or federal government position. Hanging chad, dimpled chad, whatever - you still know how they WANTED to vote.
But when was this vote discarded. How do we know it wasn’t counted. What’s more how do we know that this is indicative of larger voting problems? The same methadology applied by your party to FL can be applied to Illinois.
